Zack Snyder's Watchmen: Revisiting the Controversial Adaptation
Dark and dystopic superhero films have come and gone throughout the years--some with more edge, like Logan, and some with a little more humor, like Super. Yet they all owe a little bit to the famous graphic novel which deconstructed the superhero genre in such an impactful way. The story has been interpreted in so many different ways that you can gleam completely opposite messages, depending on your views. And the one that its original creator Alan Moore downright refuses to watch. That's right, today we're diving into the dystopic world of Zack Snyder's Watchmen.
There are few comic book adaptations that had as much trouble getting off the ground as Alan Moore's Watchmen. The film was in development for many decades, under many different studios, until the cameras finally got rolling. In a lot of ways, it's a miracle that it even happened. So, for a property that was so revolutionary and beloved, why did they have such trouble?
In this episode of DC Revisited, we examine how Terry Gilliam, Paul Greengrass and others tried to bring the graphic novel to the big screen and how it took the runaway success of 300 for Zack Snyder to get the reins. While a hit, the film was also criticized by fans of the comic for the few departures it made, while the HBO sequel series seemed to be more of a sequel to the comic than the film. Why was the movie so controversial, and how does it hold up today? We'll dig in with this fresh episode of DC Revisited, written, narrated and edited by Tyler Nichols.
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The opening montage of Watchmen is one of the best opening montage of any film I've ever seen. Overall I really liked the movie.
Awsome film the use of bob dylans song the times they are a changeing was a really good song choice Also have the graphic novel
Facts
@@spodoinklehorse The film gets so much hate but it really captured a strong sense of innocence lost which for me was one takeaway from the comic.
@@ianedmonds9191 I went to see it in the cinema having just seen the ad on telly, I had no idea what it was about and that intro just blew my mind
absolutely!
"But its complex narrative structure may make it difficult for it to appeal to viewers not already familiar with the source material..." I had never heard or read any Watchen before seeing this movie and I loved it on first watch, even more when I saw the Ultimate Cut with the comic animated movie "Tales of the Black Freighter" in it and. I strongly believe that this movie paved the way for the more modern comics books movies we see nowadays
Literally Spider-Man 2 and the Dark Knight trilogy did that. Watchmen didn't do jackshit. If anything it provved that making artificially accurate adaptations doesn't make for good superhero movies neither. It's a soulless adaptation that completely misses the point of the source material(a deconstructin of conventional heroes) almost to the point it does the exact opposite of it(yet another movie that glorifies vigilantism and makes heroes look "badass").
@@tarnishedpose dude, he said he did NOT read the comics, and that is how the movie was superb. You mentioned - a deconstruction of conventional heroes - that is completely how I see the movie, like the Comedian - he is in no way glorified and I would even say that he is shown to be a total oppressor and yet he is also complex and despite being the oppressor - he is still right in particular moments as he sees the straight view of how things are and not the illusion that the other heroes live in.
@@tarnishedpose bet you’re a huge HBO Watchman fan? 😂
I actually 100 percent agree with his statement. The biggest exposure to comic book films for me at the time were Spiderman/Hulk/Xmen. This was right when Films like 300 and Sin City were just getting the foot in the door for people who weren't used to Adult Superhero Films. I wasn't a fan who knew the Comic,I was just a kid who wanted to see a fun superhero romp during a holiday break and ended up just kinda bored and uncomfortable.
Same thought.
I remember watching this in theaters and feeling like, "Why aren't more people talking about this movie?"
Indeed. Additionally, I don't quite understand the critiques about the complexity of the story and what not. While not trying to blow smoke up my own ass, I didn't have any issue following the story on the first viewing at all IIRC.
Because it's not very good.
@@macramequeenintheafternoon727 Excuse me? Some arguments would be appreciated.
Some very good clips mixed in with alot of boring, uninteresting stuffs don't make a great movie.
@@zymethamp6596 No, it doesn't - But an admirable attempt at bringing one of the greatest comic storylines to screen in just 2hr 35 minutes does make it a great movie. It's a much better movie than anything Marvel is currently putting out.
I don’t care what anyone says, I’ve enjoyed all versions of this film. I can’t watch it non stop like some movies, but every once in awhile it’s great.
Same
I agree ENTIRELY.
@Dr. Octogon That's how good taste works.
Agreed. I watch it about once a year and enjoy it every time. It's by far my favourite Superhero movie. Luv and Peace.
The Ultimate Cut are the best version. It has the Director's Cut with Tales of the Black Freighter spliced within the film. Jackie Earl Haley was the best of an awesome cast.
I agree the Ultimate Cut is the best :P
I thought the ultimate cut was good, but when you watch it you also realize why they cut all that stuff out.
Agreed…
Agreed with the Ultimate Cut & Jackie Earl Haley.
Don't forget the DVD'S with the extra stuff. For the superman that's like over 8 hours of 😀
Watchmen is, in my opinion, one of the greatest superhero movies ever made! Yes there are flaws but it’s a beautifully shot movie with great performances. Specifically Jackie Earle Haley as Rorschach. His performance is up there with Heath Ledgers Joker.
This was the first R-rated movie I saw in theaters. I saw it with my dad for my 17th birthday. If you have seen this movie, then I guess you can say I really know how to pick 'em, lol. Superhero sex, giant blue man walking around with no draws on, super bloody, etc. It was a cool theater experience though.
Your dads a dork dude. Gou couldntwatch Rated R movie's before your 17th birthday. I remember watching the rape scene in Henry Potrait of a Serial Killer incuding the necrophila and kid getting his neck broken. When i was 6 yrs old. Tgat scene has been burned into my head for life it was fantastic
I saw it with my dad as well. We had both been fans of the comic. My dad was pumped at the end! We loved it.
I remember this movie for a couple of reasons one Doctor Manhattan walking around Vietnam disintegrating people like the Jolly Green Giant or the Jolly Blue Giant. And Rorschach saying, I'm not lock in here with you you're lock in here with me.
The scene where Rorschach was waiting for the little man and the goons to saw their way into his jail cell only to be taken down was cool
Man after reading through the comments this films still really hated or loved. Don’t get the hate myself, I enjoyed it. Wasn’t perfect but I can rewatch it no problem. I bought it, should say enough.
I loved that Vietnam flashback scene in which the Comedian and Manhattan were chilling in a Saigon bar, and then all hell breaks loose in a matter of seconds once that Vietnamese lady carrying Comedians baby, slashes his face and then gets shot by Blake. The fact that a God like Manhattan, just stood and did nothing, instead of using his powers to reverse it, shows the audience that he no longer gives a crap about humanity, and Eddie is the only Watchman bold or honest enough, to tell him. The fact that Manhattan reminisced that one instance, showed that he respected the Comedian, despite him being a sociopathic murderer and rapist.
I think its Zach's best film. No one was more surprised than me that it was good. I mean, I thought it was impossible to film. I still think everyone should read the book for the added layers as there is no replacement. Its so thick and layered. But that the movie is as good as it is...Its a minor miracle. Also the intro is one of my fave film intros. The choice of Times They are A Changin with like the condensed history to introduce audiences. Great stuff. A little like the V for Vendetta movie I think that the movie and books can supplement each other.
My favorite of Zack Snyder's films. I was already having super hero fatigue back then and it was a breath of fresh air.
Summarized my thoughts exactly.
Jackie Haley is brilliant in everything he’s in, from the classic The Bad News Bears, to today.
Not elm st nothing was good about that remake
Not enough love for him. He was good in preacher too
"A Masterpiece ", in my opinion. As a huge comics fan, didn't know about this brand before the film. I loved it. Getting to learn about each characters throughout the movie, was a blast. A flick for the adult comics fans.
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This is actually one of My favorites. Considering the scope of the original graphic novel Zack did a great job of condensing it. You would need a mini-series cover everything in it. I didn't care for Malin Ackerman, but I love the rest of the cast. I think Hilary Swank would have made a better Silk Spectre. I've seen the Director's Cut but plan on getting the Ultimate Cut.
I went to see this movie at my local theater when it was released. Prior to watching the trailer to it I knew nothing about Watchmen. So after watching the trailer I went out and bought the graphic novel read it through and loved it. When the movie was finally released I went to see it and loved it too. It's not as bad as people make it to be.
Jeffery Dean Morgan went on to play one other significant comic book character.. hmmm who was that again? Can’t quite remember…SPLAT!
I liked it and still rewatch it from time to time. I get Alan Moores dislike of the expansions and adaptations but I think this did the source material justice and is a visual treat.
Imagine if Alan Moore was the creator of Black Panther he would downright hate Wakanda Forever and i would love to see his take on Ryan Cooglar
I remember when this movie was coming out. I was in 8th grade, and remember all the trailers
That trailer with the Smashing Pumpkins song is ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I seriously don't understand the hate this movie gets. It's literally the most faithful screen adaptation of any comic movie.
I saw this opening weekend with two friends of mine. We all loved it! Say what you will about Zack Snyder. I, love his work. I bought the graphic novel a few weeks before the movie came out. For me, it was a chore to read. I could barely get through it in time! But Snyder's version. I can sit and watch the director's cut no problem. I've watched it at least 10 times. Jackie Earl Haley is AMAZING in this movie. That prison mess hall scene, *chef's kiss.* Jeffery Dean Morgan is not too far behind performance wise. This film may have a lot of haters. But I LOVE it!
@RandomHero88 I had read the graphic novel years before and pretty much agreed with the "un-filmable" consensus, but figured with Zack Snyder helming it would at the very least look fantastic. Which it does. But it's the casting that blew me away; impeccable choices all around, none more so than Jackie Earle Hailey! Notably during the prison riot, when he snarls "Where's my *face* ?" there's so much anguish and menace conveyed in those three simple words; he so truly and completely inhabited the character of Walter Kovacks, it's astounding!
It's okay, Zack Snyder couldn't read the graphic novel either - he just looked at the pictures...
@@rmsgrey I did like them purdy pictures, yes.
I think the bottom line is where comicbook movies like The Avengers and Justice League are exactly that, they are "movies" that are designed for some mindless spectacular fun with a simple to follow storyline (which I do love as well but just in a different mind set), Watchmen is a "film" designed for a patient complicated thinker who is unintimidated by artistic nudity and can let a story evolve without an explosion every five minutes or large amounts of Riddilen. I loved it when it came out. I loved the extended version and I am shocked how poorly received it was rated it is as I rate it somewherebetween Batman Begins and Dark Knight. I'm certain that my perception might have a great deal to do with that fact that I have yet to read the graphic novels if compared to the hardcore fans but I also think if compared to the comic movie fan I have a greater tolerance for a slow burn and am less homophobia then others in the Audience pool, as I cannot say how many times I heard "there was way too much blue dong" or " it went way too slow" my my guy friends.
The watchmen is a masterpiece in graphic novel representation. He nails everything - character, plot, score, visuals, tone. Maybe there are pacing issues but, when you're watching a film this good, I don't mind it taking time with itself
Always has been my favorite superhero movie of all time. It was interesting to see a video that discusses the various controversies.
This is the first hardcore R-Rated movie I've ever seen. I couldn't even finish watching the first time It forever changed my life and the way I used to see the world I even made short films because of this movie
The Cosmonauts Variety Show Guy...I hear your narration!
Snyder likes to incorporate themes and allegories that go against the grain. Which people conveniently ignore as they bitch and moan about petty shit. And let's face it, DC fans are notoriously more childish than Marvel fans; all in all.
No, the movie and the comic aren't the only options. The motion comic exists and it's my favourite way of experiencing this story. I implore you all to watch it because the story of Watchmen takes time to move more quickly it will be a while for the same in the motion comic. All of those people that didn't like the changes the movie made and want an almost completely accurate version that they don't have to read, the motion comic is for you.
Memba when DC cared about great storytelling?
I loved the movie, and went out and bought the graphic novel. I have never really read comics, and I think I would have been lost trying to read it if I hadn't seen the film.
Hands down ... BEST MOVIE OF 2009
It's Good film on its own but not a good adaptation
@@aaroncrilly2005 It is the best adaptation.
@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz it's the best adaptation, but its not on point yet...but still a great effort from Snyder and co.
This and Man of Steel are two reasons I'll NEVER side with Snyder naysayers.
@@domymbd It is absolutely on point
I hate Zack Snyder movies, especially his DC projects. But, this is not only this a legit great superhero movie, I honestly prefer this over the graphic novel because of how it improves the ending.
Improves the ending? How so?
@@meatisomalley Changing the monster attack to explosions framing Doctor Manhattan both ties the story together better and provides a more legitimate threat for the world to unite against.
Literally not. The point of the monsters is that it's an alien threat. It's the fear of the unknown come to reality and for all humans know, it's coming for everyone. No politics of any shape matter. It's something that cannot be traced back to any party, ideology or culture in particular. Making it so it is Manhattan takes this away. Because being the "God is real and he is AMERICAN " character goes against it Jon was a human, an american, from the US, the home of modern capitalism. He worked with the US goverment for years. It doesn't matter that Manhattan is now no longer human and does not feel like he has anything that bounds him to mankind... The history of his existence cannot be erased. What makes you think the eastern countries would be so quick to forget about it? Just look at real life. What happened in Chernobyl and how it was seen from the western side. Or hell... anything at all. Germany and the Nazis. the URSS with Stalin. The US and how they get their on every country they feel like. The brits, the french, the spanish and their colonization all over the world. People don't forget jackshit. It's the clash of socio-political ideologies and that it seems like humans can't get past it and reconcile what's putting the world at the edge of global catastrophe. So it makes no sense that this threat(Manhattan being the one behind the attacks) would be a reason for the entire world to put their beef aside and "unite". Not when one of the party(the USA) involved has such an obvious connection to the threat itself.
Just Rewatched the extended cut last weekend..I still think it's the BEST SUPER HERO movie ever made.
Honestly I don’t understand the hatred from Moore. Snyder and crew showed a lot of respect for the source material and didn’t butcher it. Few differences for sure but it’s a very faithful adaptation. I watched the movie first and when I got the Novel I was stunned by all of the similarities in dialogue and scene framing etc.
All along the watchtower is a Jimmy Hendrix song.
I believe The Losers and Jonah Hex are the DC movies that came out after Watchmen.... Not Green Lantern.
I got into all of those reality-bending, anarchic, subversive graphic novel titles and their authors at around the same time owing directly to my discovery during a conversation with a like-minded person at a party of the identification of those authors with magick. Obviously "Watchmen" stood out like a floating gorilla's finger floating in the darkness against a black wall covered in faintly-carved sigils. It was bloody awesome and as soon as I found out that a film had been made about it, I rented it and watched it twice before returning it the following day. I didn't watch it twice because I thought it captured the essence of the graphic novels well or because the story line and its execution on celluloid carried anything close to the same degree of excitement. It was apparent to me before (jeez, I might be wrong and it might not have been THIS long ago, but the memory seems to be there) I slid the VHS cassette into the slot that to capture the madness that was "Watchmen" was a feat comparable with changing your feet for another pair without removing your shoes first. It was comparatively slow and although well cool, Rorschach was just not at all as messed-up and perplexing in his complexity as a character as the novels made him out to be. In fact, none of the characters really were, and honestly, now, how the hell could they have been? Those anti/superheroes are possessed of levels of complexity that I can't really imagine anyone other than Alan Moore could combine without completely alienating his readers. Combine that with all the hell so many people went through trying to get the film made and in theaters with the correct rating and at an appropriate runtime, and what you have is basically a miracle. That the movie was made at all is mind blowing. And so to this day, I still watch it again here and there, warts and all. There are scenes I want to leap out of my seat and act out with the players. I remember all the crappy reviews and basic box office failures that accompanied its release, but I don't really care. I love that it exists at all.
Great production this time around, very solid
I genuinely want to see Keanu Reeves as Manhattan
One of my favourite movies and I think it was a great adaption from a graphic novel to film.
I watched possibly THE WORLD's most conservatively cut version of Watchmen on an Emirates flight and damn if I didn't feel totally transported by it from the opening credits. Something about flying at 40,000 feet makes you understand Dr Manhattan's tastefully-loin-clothed perspective
I personally love this film, but I can see why isnt for everyone, like an Avengers movie.
I love the film also.Some people might find it hard to follow.
The Ultimate DVD Box Set is one my favorite possessions
I fucking love the extended cut of this movie with the black freighter. One of my favorite movies
I got to watch in ahead of time and really enjoyed the movie, the director's cut is a must it fills in some holes left out.
I've read the comic before watching the movie and, despite them being both really good, I slightly prefer the movie, one of the few instances of me preferring the video rather than the page (Blade Runner perhaps being the only other one). I really enjoyed watching this movie, because it catched what I liked about the comic, left out what I didn't like much and delivered a perfect Rorschach. A shame that the movie didn't earn as much recognition as it deserved.
I remember not liking watchmen when I first seen it but now it's my favorite comic book movie I think it probably would have had more impact had it come out 10 years later during the height of the MCU
A great version of a well crafted story.
Is it the blue balls then. He really should get some relief.
Absolutely loved Rorschach, also absolutely hated Dr Manhattan..... One had no powers but fought crime, the other had powers and used them to slaughter millions on a belief and had no humanity left in him, Dr Manhattan actually felt himself to be God so only simply did as he felt like. And nobody can say "by killing many you saved more" because that was only a theory of theirs, it doesn't mean it'd happened. Even "the worlds smartest man" isn't always right. He's just a freak who ended up with too much power and absolutely no soul. The plot is just so stupid really, they could have ended it in 2 minutes by the blue freak blowing up everything all over and then turning him into the villain without trying to make it into such a "plot".
I was an avid comic book reader/collector in the 90s. I never heard of Watchmen. I saw the movie awhile after it came out (the Director’s Cut) and have loved it since day one. It’s been in my home library ever since. I don’t have the creator’s bias but I definitely sympathize with him not liking adaptions of his work if they aren’t up to his standard. Um...who was the TV series “extremely well received” by? Every review, every comment, every opinion I’ve ever heard about it has ripped it apart, not just for its horrific writing and wasted cast, but for its overtly woke storytelling and character destruction.
"But it's complex narrative structure may make it difficult for it to appeal to viewers not already familiar with the source material" And people wonder why I ignore the critics. Honestly I'm MORE likely to watch a movie with a poor critical score.
They're not wrong
I never did recognize Jeffrey Dean Morgan as 'The Comedian'... He looks a lot different, I guess it was a long time ago, and back then I wasn't looking for Jeffrey in anything... It wasn't until TWD and beyond that he was on my radar. His role in this movie and the TWD were amazing, he truly knows how to embody a character to bring it to life on screen. There's some actors where they either play themselves in every single movie or the same character regardless of the movie/script.
"While the cgi isn't flawless, it's still pretty good for 2009" you mean the same year Avatar came out?
2:49 What?!?! I've read all over about Moore's disconnection from the movies but never heard of this before. Larry Cohen? Script? Cast of characters? Fox? What?? Please explain.
Jude Law as Ozymandious is inspiring casting
After not reading the graphic novel for years, I saw the movie and loved it. Then I finally got the GN and loved that too. Had no idea there was an "ultimate" cut...
I just rewatched this and I do think it is a flawed classic. There are some sequences that are amazing but definitely some slop too. As a whole I think it’s very effective.
Alan Moore was possibly the greatest ever comic book writer (Halo Jones is my fave) and I treasure his work. He was treated so badly by both the comics industry and the movie industry. Having said that I still absolutely love the film.
Michael Bays watchmen? Throwing up in my mouth just thinking about it
5:47 brought in Alaze' to rewrite it. 😆 👍 Id need to drink too 😅
My profile pic is an adaptation of one of the original panels. Yay!
The first few minutes is a better movie than many full length films.
Agree, too bad the rest is a one confusing bore
Neverever seen a novel or anything related to the Watchmen - but the movie made a big impact. I really liked the movie. I have though not watched it thru that many times, due it having quite a runtime.. But, with that being said; I really oughta now take tumento watch it thru again.
The Dirctor's Cut... Pretty Great... to Me
Loved the movie. Hoping a sequel could come some day
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Ultimate cut was awesome
Watchmen was so slow going. Then I realize Zack Snyder adapted the graphic novel panel by panel.
This used to be my go to “movie on whippets and ketamine” or just to sleep
Wow no offense to Wilson, Goode, or Ackerman... maybe a little offense to Ackerman, but now I'm curious what an alternate version of Nite Owl, Silk Spectre 2, and Ozymandias would've been like if they had cast with Rachel Weiss, Kevin Costner, and Jude Law.
"Rorschach's journal: Oct 12, 1985" That was the day I first met my wife. How weird is that?
At some point Joblo will need to switch its emphasis on a product's quality from "critics' reviews" to "audience reviews", specially always basing that on Rotten Tomatoes. The TV show may have received wide praise from the former but not from the latter, leading to its cancellation. It was pretty bad.
Im a huge fan of the Watchmen comics and I thouht the film, especially the Ultimate cut did justice to it, the end change I was not so fond of but could see why they did it. On the whole it stays pretty close to the source material, more so than most, if not all of the MCU superhero films, so as a comic fan that pleased me more.
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The fact this is controversial but not the horrible tv show that rewrote entire characters is crazy.
Well I guess nobody cares for the show. That is irrelevant, Zac Snyders movie is not.
As disappointed as I was that we didn't get to see Veidt's genetically-engineered behemoth brain creature surrounded by streets full of dead New Yorkers up on the big screen... I still liked the movie. For one thing, it proved the material wasn't unadaptable. But to make a more faithful version, you need more time... far more than you can get in a theatrical release, even a really long one. And yet, *Lord Of The Rings* and *Kill Bill* were both stories that took multiple movies to tell.
06:30 Yo, that's how they slickly holster a weapon into an awkward back holster/scabbard in movies?! Now Imma have to try not to chuckle every time I see that in a scene, thinking about how there's some person crouched back there to grab it and hold it against the actor's back... 😮😂🤣
Jeffrey Dean Morgan was also in The Losers movie based off DC Vertigo's series of the same name.
I remember finding the original graphic novel, when I was working for enterprise rent a car, maybe a year ar two b4 the movie dropped, was actually a dope read. Not sure why people don't like it. It definitely stayed true to the story almost verbatim. As it is itself a controversial story it is only natural for not to be received by everyone the same. As an 80s baby I like to see these types of things at least given a shot once sequels are not necessary
My favorite comic book movies Joker, Logan and Watchmen
0:12 a little to dark in terms of colour as the main colour of the comic being yellow is completely muted
Loved the movie, and I was ok with the changes from the graphic novel. My only beef was with Rorschach towards the end of the movie where he is confronted by Dr. Manhattan. In the movie it seems he is near tears when he says "do it", Rorschach being Rorschach he should have growled it defiantly.
Consider: Kovacs had taken his mask off. Kovacs knew he'd lived a life without compromise. But also a life without happiness.
Severely underrated film.
Snyder’s adaptation had a couple major flaws. The biggest was he telegraphed the ending by making the actual villain too obvious. It should come as a complete shock, like it does in the graphic novel. Another flaw was making the non-powered heroes have superhuman fighting capabilities. Undercuts one of the major themes of the story, dealing with heroes with powers and those without.
I think the biggest issue with the film is how it obviously takes moral sides with characters, which, to my reading, is antithetical to the comics' intended themes.
I wish there was an anime based on Watchmen
I've never read the graphic novel and didn't see the movie until about 2021 or so but I did enjoy the movie for what it was. I had no problem with it.
Still bummed y'all skipped Shaq's magnum opus "Steel."
Watchmen did for super hero movies that Police Squad did for comedy films... Underrated and unwatched but paving the way for many (often inferior) entertainment later on.
Saw it in the theater. I loved.
Best Intro in Movie-History
It was totally unecesary to change the 3rd act. That was the insult/error that hurt the film with fans of the original source material.
Comic book movies are, well, I'll shut up. I remember enjoying this because it was otherworldly and had a "different-ish" story. A good looking production and some very talented people, Haley most assuredly, occupying the space...
So much in the comic you would have to make a 2 or 3 part movie. With that said Zach Snyder and the writers did a great job and it does basically tell the story. I wish it would include the original ending with the squid.
Carla Gugino is a national treasure.
Phenomenal looking comic book movie, that actually resembles a comic book.
While there are a few changes the film makes that I disagree with (mostly related to Rorschach's story arc), overall it's a fine adaptation.
The best version of Watchmen is a fan-edit. Some fan took all versions of the movie (including outtakes) and edited it all into something far superior. Plus it dumped the shitty "Hallelujah" scene.
Rare movie I have seen twice in theatre and then in IMAX. Loved it, and than read the novel. Years I've been hearing that the movie betrayed what the novel is about but don't get why?
With offbeat superhero-related material like this and *The Boys* both successful, I'd like to see Marvel adapt both their *Squadron Supreme* and *The Twelve* miniseries ... could be just the shakeup the MCU needs.
I honestly think they messed up with the casting in this. If they wanted people to treat this as an A list movie they needed an A list cast. Imagine if Keanu Reeves and Tom Cruise were in this movie. It would've got a billion at the box office.