Hermitcraft - PVP Training with Gem, Etho, Bdubs!

As a youtube vod only viewer, my vote would be no chat overlay. It is very kind to consider us though in your streaming decisions.

As someone who frequently watches your (and others' vods) I don't tend to pay attention to the chat on screen. That's not what I watch Vods for.

Another vote for no chat on VODs, but that's largely because you usually make sure to read out messages you're responding to. It's infuriating hearing half a conversation and I very much appreciate that you don't do that to us!

I personally always hide the chat when I'm watching a replay because I can't engage with a replay of a chat and find it very distracting

as a VOD watcher, I prefer the current no chat overlay but I will of course watch either way

Tango: Builds a massive factory to automate redstone components Also Tango: Makes all of his redstone components by hand

god i love bdubs. every time he hangs out with tango i smile the whole time

I have to agree with the comments here, I'd say No to the chat overlay. I watch the vods to watch it and have fun, have no need whatsoever to have chat on. Chat is great when you're there and can interact, can't do that here so there's no real point, it's just a bunch of text whizzing by on screen that I can't even read 99% of the time anyway. Nice of you to consider us tho, much appreciated. It's silly asking Twitch chat, because they just want to see their names in a video, most of them likely don't even watch the YT vods tbh.

I once saw two relatively old men fight at a pub and no offence but seeing you and Etho fight it reminded me of that time 😂

I prefer it with no chat, I think your really good at reading out loud the comment your talking about so I can always keep up

Tango, I don't know if you look much at these VOD comments, but the reason why that one chatter told you not to backpedal (out of getting combo'd) during PVP is because of the way that networking in minecraft works. When you're backpedaling, you're increasing the distance between you and your opponent, but due to ping your opponent doesn't see that increase in distance right away. The server will let them hit you but you won't be able to hit them, and you just get combo'd to death.

i have no idea of how many live watchers watches the vod afterwards, but polling them instead of vod commenters is odd. the poll should be here in the community tab

46:00 Bdubs 52:18 Bdubs returns 53:21 Gem 56:40 Bdubs and Gem return 1:23:58 Gem returns 1:36:45 Etho 1:43:15 Bdubs returns

I prefer no chat, but if it’s actually unobtrusive (not taking up much more room than your facecam) I don’t mind it.

Lesson I've learned from this is don't steal from Gem during Tango's stream. Gem is almost always watching tango's stream.

I vote no chat overlay. If I wanted to see what chat was saying I'd go watch on Twitch.

maybe it would be better to add a poll to the 2nd channel, this way you ask the correct audience.... obviously the Twitch chat loves chat but KZhead audience is sometimes different😊

you can pinpoint the exact moment when bdubs' heart shatters

12:06 I really appreciate y’all putting the new stuff in this season y’all were like beta testers and probably the reason they updated the copper trapdoors was from seeing the hermits use the items and complaining about the cost.

Ahhh yes, the return of GeminiSlay's PvP arena! Love these casual hangout moments!

As a VOD watcher who can rarely catch livestreams, I liked how Skizz used to put only the most recent chat message under his facecam. It only took up a tiny bit of the screen so it wasn't distracting, but it was nice to see who he was responding to. Plus sometimes I would have a thought about what was happening in the stream, glance at the chat, and see that someone else had the exact same thought as me. But whatever you decide, I am super grateful whenever any streamer has a YT channel for their stream VODs and uploads all of them. I don't have to worry about missing any of the content if I get interrupted, or missing a stream entirely if I have something else scheduled.

I think the majority of us here on youtube prefer no chat on screen, we can always go to twitch for the first few weeks if we really need to see something in chat and its just one more thing blocking things on screen when we cant even interact in chat at this point anyways. Either way, ill be here no matter what! Thanks for the vods tango!

Can't wait to see gem bestow the holy knowledge of PVP onto Tango

If Etho played like a normal human being with proper space and orientation for the mouse he probably wouldn’t have problems tracking

I'm a no on Twitch Chat window.

It might help to have a community poll here (or on main Tangotek channel) to see if most people want to see chat on VODs. I voted on the poll in stream, but it obviously affects the KZhead crowd more than the Twitch viewers. Personally, I'm into having chat included in the VODs. It's especially helpful when other streamers are talking in chat like we had Jojosolos during this one.

Tango reflects his redstone calculative mind in his fighting style, accurate and mathematical

Planning to watch the whole stream today, but while I'm thinking of it, I personally wouldn't care for the live chat replay. Many vod watchers watch vods because we don't care for or even like livestream chats. Your vod uploads are my podcasts pretty much, I watch to see the shenanigans I missed live, and I watch to listen to your commentary and rambling. Most messages that are important, you tend to read out as well before responding, so like, we're not even missing context on chat messages while watching vods. It's not a deal breaker for me personally, if you add it please make sure it doesn't block the screen too much. I love your vods a whole lot, and your videos, they always make my day to see them appear, so I will stress that this is just my personal opinion and if you add chat overlay I'm 100% still going to be watching haha

This is such a small detail that I'm actually kind of happy to see, if you pay close attention to Bdub's eyes, they blink

Seeing Bdubs blinking was NOT on my bingo sheet (my soul kinda left my body. I thought I was seeing things)

As a vods watcher I appreciate having HC chat visible,I like seeing the conversations all the hermits have.

i am more partial to chat overlay because when watching vods occasionally I want to get more context to the conversation that's happening or like the streamer (tango is better about this then others but it still happens lol) will respond to a really good question and then not restate the question. I only watch Vods on youtube bc I watch in double time so having the little chat window would be nice.

24:53 Honestly its not a problem unless the owner is irresponsible, and Im sure Tango wouldn't be. Dogs are among the animals best suited to being human pets because they are increadibly adaptable. One of very few species who are capable of matching humans there. A husky will have 0 issues in Arizona unless it gets left outside in the heat alot and not watered enough, which in phoenix would be too hot for ANY breed. And something really short haired like a pitbull or chihuahua or something would be fine in Greenland as long as they had sweaters on when outside and again aren't LEFT outside. We live in the southwest too, where it gets far hotter in the summer than even the all time record high in scotland, (and also is far colder in winter. Oceanic climates are wierd that way lol). Our westies (from scotland) Labs (from canada), and our husky pitbull lab amalgamation with a very short coat are all fine here. My westie actually loves the shirts so much that in winter if I open the door when he doesn't have one he will run over to the dog stuff box and bring me one and then turn around and lift a paw up. Its absolutely hilarious. I think its like a thunder vest for him cause hes much calmer. But the point is having an arctic breed in the tropics/desert is genuinely not an issue as long as you use basic common sense. Would you go outside in thw winter without a jacket? Or even be indoors without at least a tshirt for that matter? And would you go outside for long periods of time when its 110? No, of course not. But since you do its fine.

I vote for no chat on the Vods, I find it really distracting

😂 Tango being salty about the sand made me laugh

I watch the VoDs here because there's no chat, if I'm honest. If I want a chat replay, I'll watch Twitch.

No don't put chat on the vods. I always close it on twitch.

I hope Tango watches back some of the PVP practice here. When he misses, it seems to be toward the bottom right side of the screen. Aiming the crosshairs at the head box or upper torso would probably help.

I'd like chat overlay in KZhead VODs. I enjoy glancing at chat comments for context, especially when you answer questions. Plus it's nice to see the interactions just generally. But Tango you're really good at reading out the questions you're answering anyway, so chat overlay isn't essential in at all.

You’re getting so good Tango! Good luck and can’t wait to watch the Pink Pensioners

As a youtube vod viewer only, my vote would also be no chat overlay

I love how much effort your entire team has put into training for MCC! I am so excited to watch your POV

As an offline chat answer I'm fine either way, leaning to yes, sometimes it's cool to see what you're answering to

I really enjoy watching you guys actually learn something - red stone, PVP, whatever - because I learn something too.

I would recommend doing a poll on the YT channel to see if most people agree with the chat on screen. I personally would like to have the chat on screen as long as it is just small and doesn't obstruct the screen too much. I watch plenty of streamers with chat on screen and the audience mostly seems to be okay with it. Or maybe do one VOD upload with chat on screen to see how people feel about it

Resources might be ending up in the hopper minecarts because the pick them up when the crafters spit them out. There may be a small window in which the crafter spits out the item just as the minecart rolls by, and slurps the item out of the air

tango, i think a community poll here on this channel might get you a better answer as to how the offline chat feels about the overlay

Pvp stuffs starts around 1:23:56 ✨

I personally dont mind chat beung on screen, especially if it was in dark mode on a lower opacity. It gives context when you are responding directly to chat. Theres ways to hide automods and dono/sub messages so its not as crowded

I mostly watch vods because of timezones, but occasionally manage to catch earlier streams. Watching live I go through phases of wanting chat open etc, but i can say with no doubt that having chat on a vod without the option to turn it off (i.e. on the screen) is never appealing. I make peace with not having chat since its not live, and enjoy the vod as-is. Sometimes chat can get overwhelming, or the chat can be way off topic and thus be distracting etc, and means that i would tend to rather have the vod on in the background rather than pay attention, in order to avoid seeing the chat. I wanna see your content with my eyes not just listen to it! Thanks for asking before doing it, and for taking us vod viewers into consideration

SECONDINF THE GLOWY EYES!!!

i have tears by laughing at Tango vs Etho

Dealer’s choice on the vod #chat thing. I watch the vods because of more detail and random interactions, and you read the chats you answer so the chat interaction is already well represented. Considering the speed the chats generally go past, I wouldn’t be able to follow them, anyway. How you can catch anything is magic, to me. 🤷‍♀️ So, you do you.

I would definitely enjoy the chat for these vods. I've wanted that for forever!

1:12:15 I think Free Cam is great for explaining and showing stuff to the audience, and it can improve the overall quality of the video content. If it is used to help the player, than it is a non-vanilla benefit which feels "cheaty". It's fantastic as long as it benefits the audience rather than the player.

I like chat overlay because sometimes it feels like I'm only getting half of a conversation, also if nothing is happening on the screen I'm more likely to get bored and like reading what chat is saying to be entertained

this stream was hilarious! This season of Hermitcraft has been my favorite so far

I like the chat overlay, maybe if it was small, just because you respond to your chat a lot and so sometimes I don't know what you're responding to if I can't see the chat.

Tango you could fix the problem of unloaded chunks (or at least improve it) by making the periodic signal for sending out the minecards dependent on the destroyed minecards. If no minecards get destroyed the factory should stop spitting new ones out.

You could do a four way stone generator with piston feeds to make a 2/2 faced box five blocks deep. By standing with your cursor placed on the corners of all four blocks you can see if it is mining or the stone generation that bottle necks first (presumably bottle necking at mining speed would be “max” efficiency). In addition, for extra difficulty, the lava and water channels could potentially be attached to a stone generator with piston feed tape and tnt blast chamber technology similar to common concrete blast chambers. This would give you a 2/1 machine with cobble auto generating, when you have tnt loaded and turn it on, and an afkable silk touch mining spot for stone. You could even add the option to load the stone into the machine like a regular tnt blast chamber to make cobble if needed.

Chat on the vods would be nice. I tend to hide it on Twitch because of the way the white backgroud covers the stream. If there's a way to just put the text on the vod and have it still be visible that would be amazing

You are one of the few streamers who I don't need a chat for the VODs. You are excellent at reading, summarizing, etc. Chat would actually be distracting in my opinion.

2:21:36 soo glad I made this suggestion in Twitch chat, hope it’s possible to fit baby slimes into the theatre of the factory floor 🙂

Personally I love having chat overlay! I love seeing chat reactions and the immediate response

Tango you could use Skulk Net to keep the farm on, while your moving around the factory/areas that will load these chunks, activating the Skulk Net, it would be on and off when you are not moving/gone

I dont like the chat, i would like to see the full screen

With your red eyes it might be cool to blink side/side instead of up/down.

Personally no, I dont look at chat on vods. If I miss live then chat is pointless

personally i would like to have chat on screen - sometimes when i rewatch a vod, i literally go to twitch to see how chat reacted at certain parts ☺️

I like it sometimes to see chats reaction. It adds to the feeling of being a part even if I can just watch the vods over several days.

Can't wait for this team up in the next Life Series.

I never used to like watching a vod with the chat overlay, but another youtuber I watch does it for their vods, and it sort of completes the experience in a way, because previously I was only hearing responses to what people had written, and I didn't know what the youtuber was responding to. Also, sometimes chat says some really funny stuff. I got used to it, and now I like it so much that I miss it when I watch vods by youtubers who don't do it. It doesn't have to be big, and you might have to move it around during editing for certain games because it can block game info, but I like it.

"Were there no S tiers [in the MCC you won]?" :Bdubs totally not mentioning that FireBreathMan was on his winning team 🌈:

No chat on vod please

I would *prefer* no chat overlay in the vod - but I'd continue watching your yt vods either way, so consider that .75 of a vote

There were two more shulkers full at least of quartz. You got tricked by the shulker display mod that shows you a quartz crystal on top of the shulker when there’s nothing but quartz in the box.

As a youtube only viewer, I prefer no chat overlay only because you read the question/comment that you're responding to before you respond and I appreciate that so much!! I also typically get distracted when chat is on-screen and I end up JUST reading the chat than watching what you're doing Viewers that want chat overlay can always go to Twitch, but viewers that don't want chat overlay would have nowhere to watch if you added them here :)

1:56:51 idea for solving Bdubs' "hand slap game" problem... Use shields. Instead of "flinching" by moving, the "flinch could be counted when you put your shield up to block maybe? Just a thought

He'll never read this but just stream on KZhead and then chat reply is always available for whoever wants it. Chat on video screens ruins videos, it just looks bad and if the streamer does a good enough job responding to chat, then no one needs to see what was said.

The art of colon-ing is still alive; I feel, though, like I am one of the last to know the art of semi-colon-ing.

if you have frost walker boots on armor stand you can use it to detect when the player is close to it by observe the froze water beneath it and when it melts. if you use that to activate and deactivate chunk loader you can make sure that the factory dose not get unloaded randomly and you are only running the chunk loader for a short time while the factory is safely shutting down after the player levees the area

when I watch the vods it's always a thing I miss out on to see what chat is saying, but it's not something I miss a lot, I wouldn't mind it being added though

A small and transparent chat overlay would be good. I prefer to be able to see the chat when watching streams or vods, to see what people are thinking or what/who exactly you're responding to, things like that. I think, like others have suggested, you should put a poll up on your community tab so you can get an actual vote.

as vod watcher I prefer no chat overlay..

I would say having chat overlay in a vod is important if for most of stream you are talking to chat and if isn’t moving too quickly, but otherwise no chat overlay is better. Also if I wanted to read chat I could just go watch the vod on Twitch

i do prefer a chat as long as it’s not to big! i love to see when other creators pop in and the other side of those conversations

I would like a chat overlay- but overall it's up to you :3 I'm not sure the greatness of making the poll on the stream about the vodwatchers- because most - is my guess - watch the vods cuz they couldn't watch the stream.

I dig the more mellow music; i especially love the chill step. etho's pvp issue is he swings too late, he should start his swing just before you are able to reach. Like shooting arrows you lead your target.

Yes, I would like chat on the vod, as someone who regularly misses your streams because I'm busy during the day, I would love a chat on vod.

i woild love to see chat overlay on VODs

The cat in the vod would be too distracting in my opinion

I would prefer no chat on the vod at all. I don't watch vods for the twitch chat.

I personally like the chat. On twitch you can obviously just toggle it on and off, but since that’s not an option on here, giving a small chat replay on screen would be fun imo. You don’t have to watch it, and if it’s not too large it’s easily ignored. But having the option is something I’d love.

Sometimes i like when a streamer has chat on VODs because they'll just respond to chatters without clarifying what the message was. But you tend to contextualize your responses well. I wouldn't mind either way though I think! You have a nice chat environment, with some streamers chat gets very frustrating to watch

It'd be cool if the eyes glowed briefly after a blink, like they were ready to glow because it was dark but they reset when they're in the light. kinda like how pupils dilate briefly when you blink. thought a faint glow thats more noticeable in the dark would be cool too.

I would love it Tango started streaming on YT. Vastly prefer it to Twitch as a viewer

I mostly watch vods, I really don't care for chat. You can often get the gist of it when it matters and it's just distracting otherwise.

No chat replay please Tango. If i need to see anything anyone posts in chat i can watch the vod on twitch

If you can integrate the stream chat so it doesn't get in the way and also can still be read with enough lines and decent font size, then it would be nice to have. Otherwise I also don't mind it not being there. Btw there's a small error in the floor of the redstone shop, in front of the barrels at the crafter/hopper section. Think 2 of the glazed terracottas are rotated wrong.

1:34:23 this is literally how Technoblade won his battle against Dream. He made dream go "highground" meaning he could slap his knees and dream was just short of hitting him.