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UNLOCKED FULL EPISODE: "Confronting Your Mother-In-Law" | The Oprah Winfrey Show
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That brother in-law in the audience popped up out of nowhere and went from 0-100 real quick and then toned it right back down when Oprah was like "who are you?" 😭
And did you notice the little smirk on the mother in laws face when he did that
I saw that smirk on her face. I don't think she wants to make things right.
@@bonnieb6984 That's when I knew who the culprit was. She hates her DL but she wants to play the victim. She is definitely treating her GD differently and it's because she's jealous. It's disgusting 🤡
Notice he said he’s the brother in law And that she married his STEPBROTHER! Then had the nerve to say she was a disgrace to the family… sir you’re BARELY family! 😂😂
That honestly reminded me of the episode of The Fresh Prince where Will jumps up during the Oprah show and just chimes in. I LOL'd for sure.
"If I ever see you again... your butt is mine"... 🤣🤣🤣 WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT!?!? Did we just witness a 5th grade school yard fight?!?
I found his threatening of his sister-in-law totally offensive too! Really sick.
either that or he is feeling romantic about her hind parts.
😂😂😂
I know right you can't help but laugh he is so stupid 🤣
😂😂😂
Don't marry into a family if you are having problems during the engagement. It usually gets worse, not better. People do not change easily. Consider yourself warned.
So true
It was hard, but I had to do this in my early 20s. My to be mother in law was so mean to me and my fiancé didn’t have the balls to take up for me. His mother gave him a trust fund and he loved that more than he loved me. He turned out to be a deadbeat loser. Dodged a bullet Abram Wellons.
Damn, I need a 'where are they now'!
@Belltown Daisy lol then why comment?
Because the daisy is a bit of a b****
We need seasons worth of Where Are They Now shows!
The 80's hair is cracking me up! I've very happy I have a sweet mother in law who just wants us all to get along. Phew!
This is 1991. Love these classic episodes of all Oprah shows.
this hair look halla dope
But Oprah's hair is gorgeous 😍
The black women look amazing
Where are they now?
Christmas Eve makes 1 year that my mother in law has been gone. This episode make me miss her that much more. She was truly one of my best friends for almost 20 years🕊
You are blessed.😊
Lucky you and great soul your mother-in-law .. mine was hell bent on making my husband divorce me.... You know what she succeeded and tortured my one and only daughter (her one and only grand child)!!! Now she is happily gone out of this earth my daughter is on severe mental healthcare and my life is totally shattered .... I think my exhusband's too... But funny thing is he is still controlled by my dead mother-in-law's instructions And manipulations. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
You are beyond blessed
You were fortunate...thats rare!
You were very fortunate to have that experience.
Wendy is wrong to state she didn't care how Bob treated the rest of the world as long as he treated her well. To me it shows someone's character how they treat the rest of the world.
The outfits and the jewelry in this segment were iconic!
And the hair
Yes...tha har...lol.
Them ear stretchers lol
… Oprah’s hair blocks the camera! 😂
Classic 80's for sure
I feel so blessed. From the first time I met my mother in law we just clicked. My mom had passed years before. Even before her son and I married, I called her mom. Even now after we got divorced, I still do. She was so much more to me than a mother in law. We are friends till this day.
Wow you both are blessed to have each other. I am so glad that someone has a good mother in law. May you be happy always. Merry Christmas to you and her 🎄🤗
@@Sara2016a Thank you and you have a great holiday too. MERRY CHRISTMAS.
Very blessed indeed! So beautiful to hear a positive story 🥰 what every daughter in law and mother in law should want.
So sorry about your mum
@@nicp2636 thank you so very much.
Out of the country in "Alabama," well I've heard it all!
😂😂😂😂😂
I spit my coffee out laughing when she said this!! 👍
All this time I thought I was an American living in Alabama. 😂
Oprah stopped the real quick. She was like ok lady I don't want the whole damn convoluted story. Lol
I thought that was what she said!!
I feel bad for the lady that stood up and talked about her husband being away at war. She was very emotional and I just wanted to give her a hug. What a pretty, sweet woman that really wants her family together.
He chose well for his wife didn’t He?! Absolutely. Bless her
Poor lady. I felt so bad for her, too.
She is beautiful. I wonder how she is now.
I see my feeback on getting more "classic" Oprah Episodes has work! keep 1986-1995 Oprah episodes coming!
Yes, I loved those days when you were ‘allowed’ to look Ms. O in the eyes during an interview or question time. Ahhh, memories!💜🌸💜🌸
Yes sweet sweet ❤ Nostalgia for me💫
I LOVE THESE!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Hahahahaha because of you you think!??
I cringed when Wendy said she didn't care how Bob treated anyone else as long as he treated her well. I've dumped men who didn't treat strangers well, let alone my own mother and other family members.
I agree.
Agreed!!!! If somebody treats others shabbily, there's an excellent chance that they will treat you poorly in due time.
@@Coryraisa That's right.
Yep ..not caring how her man treats others? They probably have no friends...etc. Does he treat her so well because when he says ...jump..she says..'how high honey?...
I felt the same way! She gave away a big clue about their toxic relationship when she said that!
My mother in law was a quiet person. I never knew how she felt about me until one day when we were alone. She told me how much she loved me and how happy she was that I had found my husband. Even though she was quiet she and my husband's family have always treated me with love and respect. I feel blessed that I married into the family that I did. My mother-in-law died from Cancer on Christmas eve 2015, and I miss her all the time.
Mine was too. She was sweet as pie. I loved her so much. She passed two years after we got married and I miss her every day.
Girl in green. I don’t care how he treats the world. He is good to me. So you think it’s ok to treat your Mom like crap ! Shame on YOU ! And why did ppl clap wth. That is awful. So the DAUGHTER is the problem… one day your mom will be dead and then how will you feel. So ungrateful… my husband was best friends with my mom and I loved it. He misses her as much as I do ❤️. Grow up ppl and fix the problems. Your kids deserve to be loved by their grandparents…
I love turkey!
The child in the relationship needs to step up from the beginning and not let the fight between the parents and spouse… it needs to be stopped from the start.
@@lhyork1608 You sound like a meddling mother-in-law. That young woman has been hurt by her mother. When you get married, the MOST IMPORTANT person in your life is your SPOUSE. If mom keeps interfering, I don't blame her daughter for being upset. Mom should be happy that her daughter is happy instead of concentrating on petty things!!! She's a selfish meddler.
I have the absolute Best Daughter-in-law that I could ever ask for! I couldn't love her more if I gave birth to her!
What a blessing 🥰 my mom in-law was my best friend, I miss her everyday. When there is so much love when two families come together the kids that come have such a wonderfully enriched life.
I did too sadly they got divorced Even after many many years I still miss her
That’s so nice.♥️ I bet she adores you too because you’re so sweet!
Same here! My DIL is a peach! She is a blessing to our family!
Me too, she loves my son and they are 10 years in.
How far Oprah has come. I feel Like I was watching Jerry Springer show.
That brother in law is so nasty.
It’s so nostalgic to watch these older Oprah shows! I love how her hair speaks to time period.😀
Her hair on this is the size of the very first satellite dishes.
My husband was close to his mother He drove her & her friends to events ( she lived in another state) I loved how he loved his parents & his kids 💕
He married a younger version of his mother. They even have the same voice!!
They resemble each other a great deal, the younger version, the aged version, I saw that right away, highly doubt they'd admit to it,lol
I was thinking the exact saem thing! Shocked the pants off of me!
The intro music takes me back!!
The stepbrother is hilarious 🤣🤣
😅🤣😂
What a wild time 🤣🤣🤣 these audience members are off the chain lol
The way the step brother hopped out of the audience chileeee 🤣
I was like tf
@@krystingrant6292 Dude was definitely charged up lmfao
He scared me I was like wtf 😳 where did he come from
He was as goofy as they get lol
You can really see why that man stopped communicating with his family. Has nothing to do with her, they're just trashy people. From that dweeb making threats to MIL playing the kids against each other, it's just trashy. Bet Dee treated her son and stepson like she treats her grandkids.
I think it’s very telling that the husband/son isn’t there when even the brother and sister in law are in the audience.
i'm so glad my MIL is kind to me... we have had issues in the past, but she is the best grandma i know! i'm grateful for her.
We all have these types of people in our families.
My MIL lives 700 miles away. Forever grateful for that.
Boy that opening slapped me right back in time!!
My favourite Oprah opening!
Penny's MIL saying "the girl" and "the boy" but referring to another child as "my granddaughter", tells me all o need to know about her.
It just means she doesn’t feel close to them and that could be Pennys fault.
The theme song reminds me of when Carlton was dancing on the fresh Prince 😂😂😂😂
🤣
That friend in the back row with the glasses that told how he has to deal with the father in law stood up and spit some truths!!
This is a good episode! Brings back memories. I miss The Oprah Winfrey show. I used to come home from school and watch Oprah at 4:00. 😄
Yes it was the best, I was like don't call me, I'm watching Oprah. I actually learned alot from her shows!
It was nice, wasn’t it? I always felt I learned from Oprah’s as well.
I miss her too. No matter where I was at or what I was doing I had to be home by 4:00
When I got married in 1984 I was 19 years old. My in-laws made early judgments on me because I wore dresses all the time. Eventually through the years I got to know them and they got to know me! I just liked wearing dresses. I felt good in them. That’s it! No hidden agenda. There were other things too. We grew to love one another. The year before her son and I divorced I went to visit her, with my daughter, who was 17. My husband wanted to stay home. We drive a couple of hours and my daughter and I spent the weekend with my mother in law. Loved every moment we had together. That was the last tune I ever seen or spoke to her. Her son and I went through a pretty terrible divorce after that visit and a few years later she passed. I sent her a card once after we divorced but I never heard from her. I understand she needed to support her son during this time. What hurt though is he wanted the divorce, he was having an affair and wanted to be with her and I gave him the divorce he wanted yet somehow I was the bad guy.
No you were NOT the bad guy to her . Not at all ! Its just that blood is thicker than water .
The lady in the audience who’s husband is away in the Perian Gulf War…I hope things turned out good for her and her husband.
she seemed like a very sweet person
@@Janine11155 AGREE 100%!
They should post more videos like this. It’s very important for all of us cause we would learn a lot. Especially now when many people deal with destroyed relationships.
Dr. Phil has some really good shows on meddling in-laws, too. They really make me appreciate and miss my in-laws even more. Even after we divorced, they still treated me like family until the day they died. His siblings do the same. In fact, I just saw my ex brother-in-law yesterday. He gave me the biggest hug. He's visiting my 2 kids and their families plus his brother in the city. He took ALL of us to lunch yesterday and it was also his way to visit with me, too. All of his siblings still treat me as family. I miss my MIL and FIL SO much since they've passed away!! I've been truly blessed!!! 💝
This makes me feel blessed to have my mother in law. She’s a queen, I love her with my whole heart, she supports me, listens and wipes my many many many tears, held my hand more times than I can count and has told me how much she loves me being with her son. The amount of times she’s thanked me for loving him and treating him well. I couldn’t imagine not having the relationship I have with my mother in law.
You are so blessed. ❤️
I’m only 5 minutes in… and it’s so chaotic
My mother in law has caused unimaginable pain in my life…my husband only began to see it about 7 year ago…now we have children and I don’t trust her with them
Married for 25yrs, together for 29yrs. For the 1st 8yrs my mother-in-law and I didn't get along AT ALL. Then one day I decided; I'm tired of all the fighting and made an conscious effort for us to become closer, get along and just be a happy extended family. And today I don't regret it. My mother-in-law passed away 4 and a half yrs ago and I still miss her, her advice, the stories she used to tell us about when she was young. I just miss that woman so much 🌹😥
Penny wanted to swing on everybody in the room 😂 sis is fed up
Thanks OWN team! Please keep these retro episodes going!
I'm loving Oprah's hair and makeup
It was ALWAYS on point
I would love to know where they all are now
I like this 80/90s ladies hairstyle...reminds me much about Princess Diana 👸
I’m 63 now and I’ve learned that how your man treats his mother says a lot!! If he’s caring towards her, he’ll be caring towards you and your family and children. If he’s without, then he’s WITHOUT. LOVE someone who truly loves YOU! ❤️🌹🥰💋🌹❤️
AMEN!! thats why I am getting married to a man who treats his mother good. Everytime she talks to her son she asks how I am.She and I get along very well, she is truly the best mother in-law ever.
@@dinkamika Congratulations 🥳 I’m sure you will glow with pride, confidence and love in your life. I hope your day of union is really full of GOOD and SPECIAL MEMORIES for EVERYONE. I kind of wish that I was less focused on my makeup and dress, so I could have had at least five minutes to focus and enjoy each guest, as they enjoyed us! The night goes so fast. Remember to love your kids and let the grandparents dote and spoil… I’m soooo happy for you all. 💞💜💖💜💘💜💝💜💕💜💗
@@cailtegreen7764 Well done 🥳🥂🍾 Happy New Year 🥳 to all of you. I have to say it everyone as it’ll be another whole YEAR before we can say it AGAIN… HAPPY NEW YEAR 🌿🕊🌿🕊🌿🕊
How a mother treats her son or daughter in law can say a lot too. All mothers aren’t the gems we hope for
Not true. My spouse has always cared for his mom deeply but other women he has never treated any of them kindly.
I’m glad the male audience member took up for the daughter in law- I was shocked he called her that name and threatened her- he’s lucky it was a different time back then because he would get virtually dragged in these social media streets for coming for a woman like that
I’m confused . Wasn’t he attacking his sister-in-law?
@@bg9509 yes
@@bg9509 Synquette. was referring to the gentleman of Asian descent who called out the brother-in-law who called Penny (I believe Dee was the mother-in-law) a B_____ and threatened her at the end of his outburst.
The intro music, the clothes, the hair, OMG it's phenomenal!!! I miss the old days
When I see someone being quiet in a chair at a gathering, I never assume they are "pouty" or "moody", I see someone shy. If you make a safe space for an introvert, they open up at their own pace. I get the feeling the mother in law was judgemental and chilly from the beginning. How horrific that she (mother in law on stage) had NO problem with her son threatening violence against this woman on national TV. Even in the 80s that threat alone was illegal in many states. That was so disturbing. PS I had the greatest mother in law. She's been gone a year and a half. I miss her every day.
My mother loves my husband and my MiL loves me. I cannot imagine marrying someone and causing this type of disruption in their lives. I make sure my husband is checking on his mom and we try hard to share our lives with our parents. It’s not difficult or exhausting because everyone knows their place. I didn’t steal anyone’s son. He’s not your man or your property. People need to understand that they serve different functions.
PNW I don’t believe she is the problem I think it’s the mother in law she’s very cold, stand-offish and narcissistic.
I would never put that type of stress on my sons, as a mom just realize you have to share your son and take a step back. Can you imagine what type of stress he might be under, being in the middle of his wife and his mom.
«He said I don’t eat at other peoples houses, well why did he come then?» 😆 I agree with her though, what a strange thing to say
Whew. I can't believe how common this is. I am SO thankful to have an amazing mom AND mother in law!! My husband and I both lucked up with that. I can't imagine it being any other way.
I am so blessed to have the most wonderful Mother-in-law. She was a Preachers Wife for over 50 years. She has the kindest heart and most loving soul. Since our wedding day she has always considered me to be her Daughter.
I adored my mother in law. Turns out the didn’t like her son very much so we are divorced but I am still very close to both of his parents. It makes it so much easier for our children.
My ex mother in law didn't think I was good enough for her son... and even have the 38 years I had with him, that underlying rift was never mended...
Bob's mother-in-law is getting most of her information from her daughter. If you go and tell all of your business when you are mad, you'll probably regret it when family members bring it up. Bob looks pretty healthy to me and can do some sort of work. Mama doesn't want her daughter married to a free-loader, but you raised her.
With all due respect, I have to disagree with you on that statement. Not all disabilities are visible. You absolutely cannot judge someone’s disabilities solely on what you can physically see. Also, I didn’t hear anything about the wife working. If he was at home with the kids, there shouldn’t have been any reason that she couldn’t get a job. That would have been two incomes in the house. Even if one of those was a disability check. It’s still a household income. * I would like to add that…. No I am not a disabled person, and I do work two jobs, 7 days a week. So this is not in my own defense. This is just me trying to educate people on invisible disabilities. People with invisible disabilities constantly have to feel judged and made out to be liars, or like they are trying to screw the government. It’s very hurtful to them that they have to feel the need to defend themselves to people that are so close-minded and judgmental just because they can’t physically see their disability.
Mine passed away when my husband was in high school. But thank God my mother absolutely adored my husband, before she passed away🥺.
Oooo Gosh, that lady Penny resonated so much with me. My husband’s family literally was so DAMN disappointed when they found out I was pregnant with a girl and made it KNOWN!
Who tells a little girl (their own granddaughter) that they don't like them because she's an introvert?!
I did not have a good relationship with my ex step mother-in-law now I’ve been divorced for eight years and that was long ago but I can learn a lot from this episode my sons only 14 years old but in the future I might be the mother-in-law and I think this show can be a teaching lesson for everybody
I keep a picture of mine on the mantelpiece...keeps the kids away from the fire...
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😆 🤣
My former MIL was an enabler. It didn't matter how much he battered me, he had a good reason.
With this episode airing almost 30 years ago, I must have forgotten how fast-paced The Oprah Show was and how chaotic it can be. So much is left unfinished with very little progress, yet it was still fantastic to bring attention to these topics and at least start the conversations. Oprah must have been exhausted at the end of this particular episode.
It aired OVER 30 years ago, NOT almost.
Oprah's early shows when she first started out were like this. Almost "Jerry Springer" in nature, but she cleaned them up and made them more classy. Sfter that, her show Exploded!
Durn...did he say 'Your butt is mine'?! WOW
Oprah gave good shows back in the day!!!
The hair!!!! Omg the hair!!! 😱
My past mother-in-law was the sweetest women who loved me like a daughter. She passed. I miss her. My current one 🙄 She insults me and he don't defend me. I tried getting along with her but I avoid her now.
It is really hurtful. Peace 👏👏
I am so sorry - once you've had good, it's horrible to see it differently. Your peace comes first and you don't have to subject yourself to disrespect. ;}
@@Iprsmrk yes I agree I know what it's like to have been loved. Now hated.
@@warmlantern0000 😞
@@wontbefooledagain9400 😚
It’s fun to see these old Oprah shows at the beginning of her talk show. You can see in the early days how it was modeled after the Phil Donahue show. She did eventually get her own style. Oh my… that 80s hair.
My mother in law and I got along all the time. At first, she warmed up to me by showing me my husband's school pics. She was so impressed when I picked him out of first grade class. At that time, she had one other daughter in law who she knew much longer than me, but we hit it off because we both loved her son. At first, I wrote her a letter and told her she did a wonderful job as a mother in raising her son, who was such a good man, and that I would do my utmost to make him happy. our marriage is wonderful, celebrating 35 years this year. Dear mom passed away 2 years ago. I still miss her!
31:18 the man standing up saying Bob seems like he can get very angry 🤣 Sir when did Bob even raise his voice? 😭😭😭😭😭 This show is absolutely hilarious 🤣🤣🤣😭
@J&M Beauty Supply Store Bob doesn't have to raise his voice to demonstrate anger. He is showing passive-aggressive meanness. He is verbally abusive and insulting. He's a loser who took advantage of his silly girl-brides dumbness. A predator who feeds upon making and keeping division going.
I loved my mother in law! And I miss her every day! She died unexpectedly! 23 years ago! Hi was looking forward to taking care of her when she got old ! The first time she was going to pick up her brand new grand daughter and keep her for the weekend was the day we buried her! I still cry! My husband still Frys but we tell our daughter all about her! The Aunt that fill her shoes to be our daughters grandma so she would have a grandma was equally wonderful! Until we lost her. When our daughter was 10 I miss both women I've been blessed! But I miss Bonnie and Grace!
This show is so chaotic but I love it lmao! That random lady interjecting talking about her husband in the war at 21:00 no one is staying on topic
😂🤣😂
I can't wait for that part.😂😂
I think she is staying on topic. If you read between the lines when her husband is around she is accepted as the daughter in law but when he is away they show their true selves and shun her. Making her feel as if she does not count in the marriage.
@@jeanogrady9546 my point is talk shows today don’t have audience participation, certainly not as many interruptions as Oprah does. The person comes on to talk about their life and the audience claps or nods, not time for me to talk about my life. I love classic Oprah!
Omg, girl, you read my mind
My mother and father in law were so good to me. I miss them. I was truly blessed.
You don't have to be a Ruth and Naomi to be a successful mother and daughter in-law duo, you just have to maintain a balance and serenity in the family, especially for the children's sake. Strong family is foundational to the strong person.
WHEW CHILE! back when Talk shows were RAW!
I’m so glad my MIL is a grown up and treats us like grown ups! Even when she first thought he could do better lol. She gave our relationship a chance to grow and judged our relationship by how happy her son is with me. I love you mom! Even my other MIL and I are still very close.
The first two on stage look like mother and daughter! They look so much alike.
I hate how funny this episode is 😂😂😂😂 I know it was suppose to be serious, but it’s like working in a daycare 😩😂 The angry outbursts has me dying
I would never date someone that did not like my mom or dad! It just does not make any sense!
Not true. I probably would have felt this way too but both of my parents are toxic. I'm kind to them but they're not capable of liking anyone for their children.
@@aprilchow-chee5281 Is it one of those no one will ever be good enough for my child sort of situation?
That lady’s son is the problem not his wife. He should have stood up for his family. Sick. Penny and Dee look like twins, weird.
It's funny you say they look like twins, I thought they looked similar. And because of that, I'm torn if the situation is either A) just the MIL, or just DIL who started the hostility, OR, B) if it's both of them and the MIL just finally met her match. Which would make sense, people love to marry a person whose basically one of their parents, so them kinda looking alike is making me think it's B
They sound the same too lol
Darling Oprah...I just love, love her. Happy 68th birthday, honey. 💙🤎💙🤎💙🤎💙🤎💙🤎
I know why we get our feelings hurt and why we get so disappointed in what others do or don't do. It's because our OWN expectations have not been met. Our egos are soooooooo fragile that they require soothing from someone outside ourselves. I'm speaking from life experience. When I dropped my expectations, my feelings got hurt less and less. II'm not hardened or bitter, just mature enough now to know that others had their own expectations of me that I had not met either. Be okay with yourself and your own decisions throughout life and allow others the same then there will be peace. 🌹
Amen sister!
Penny is my sister. I love her dearly, but she endured a very painful marriage
Are they still together
We should respect each other and be happy
Gorgeous BLK lady Gorgeous Gorgeous 😍
The brother in law in the audience had me ctfu!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
As a parent I’m going to tell my children the bitter truth, period.
I love my MIL and we get along just fine.. I call her for advice, just to say hello or love you.. I feel fortunate 😳
At 2:03 Oprah asks "how long has this been?" I was almost waiting for the answer to be something like: "since they got married - 3 days ago"
My mother In-law has Alzheimer's and she forgets everything ad everybody but not me 😂❤️
That's probably because you treated her very well..from the get go. Most people go through life...having just a handful of people who truly and deeply care...
That’s just funny,fantastic ❤️
I’ve been divorced for 2 yrs , still close to his mom and my sisters/brother in law . Never had an issue with the moms
Really great episode!!! Give us more ❤❤
I’m not married but I pray that I will meet a man who’s family will embrace me like my family will embrace him. There is nothing more important in my life than being in peace with everyone in my life, living in harmony and drama free.
I had a kind Mother in law, and an awesome daughter in law 🙂.. Phew..
I was so blessed with 2 wonderful mother-in-law’s, however I didn’t really have a mom of my own. My own mother was the one playing the favs with her own 5 children and grandchildren. Me and mine where not of the fav group. So I really embraced all of both my married families.♥️
My late husband's mother still calls me her daughter in law. It means the world to me. My new boyfriend mother and I get along very well. I grew up without a mother and I am gifted now
My in laws are gone . I miss them so much. I felt I gained family. My in laws made me welcome, part of their family. I loved my in laws
I purposely make an effort with my daughter-in-law. She is the Mother of my grandchildren and for that, I will always honor and love her. We do get along and we laugh together. If I have a problem, I talk to my son. I check to see if I had a misunderstanding of a situation. Usually, I misunderstood the situation and then things are fine. I also do not take things so personal. I talk to them several times a day. If I don't call, they actually think something is wrong. Everyone has to make an effort to have a decent relationship.
No matter what color clothing Oprah wears, she looks beautiful.
She is a beautiful woman. She has been so profoundly instrumental in my healing. I am extremely grateful to her. ❤️🙏