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Today we are reviewing the Roccat Kone XP Air. This is a new mouse from Roccat that aims to blind everyone with dazzling light! But how will it do against some of the best gaming mice (allegedly) of all time? The G502 and Basilisk! Find out!
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I feel like most of the issues you pointed out in this video are non-issues. Like the dock - it's great that it's included and if you just put the mouse on it when going to bed and take it off when starting your day, that's a great experience and charging becomes a non-issue. I also don't get what you mean when you say it feels bad in every game (?). The shape is obviously subjective, but for palm/claw-grip I find it a lot better than the Basilisk v3 which I also tried. And regarding the sensor/wireless, I don't feel a noticable difference between this mouse and the wired basilisk v3. The Roccat feels a bit cheaper though, that's true, but I think that the shape, which I prefer, is much more important. The missing freescroll mode of the mouse wheel may be important to some, but I personally really don't need it and most gaming mice don't have it anyway. I can't say the clicks or mouse wheel feel bad or mushy in any way, that's the kind of thing that 90% of people don't even notice or don't care about. But I guess it can be important to some, while it is also very subjective. Try the mouses in a store if you can. Regarding the "useless features" - what exactly? Maybe you don't need the extra buttons, but maybe others do. Maybe you think a freescroll wheel is useful while others don't. I personally like the features of the Roccat. From the extra buttons to the superior thumb button (which I use as a sniper button) and the charging dock with a USB port for the receiver. The software is a bit janky, but the Razer software on the other hand is intrusive and overloaded. Like with any mouse software - just configure the mouse once, delete it from autostart and never deal with it again. Overall I think the Kone XP Air is a great mouse and I sent the Razer Basilisk V3 back in favor of the Roccat.
At least the Basilisk's charging dock is somewhat useful because you can also use it for your phone. In general, docks kinda suck unless they're like apart of the mousepad and/or have other uses too.
I use this mouse for work and the only real issue I've had is the scroll wheel and I have two of them I use the macros tilt scroll wheel Bluetooth and Dongle with no issue even with occasional gaming it works decently no issues There's no mouse that has all the same features as this mouse that said the QC issues are defiantly a thing
people who dont like using an og g502 with max weights are weak af this is why everyone stuck in silver and gold because they are weak unlike me im in platinum and i use the og g502 with all weights because i am strong
Ha, U think you are strong? LOL, I use a night market bought mouse that WIEGHS 150 GRAMS. You weak people with your 40-110 gram mouse are hard stuck plat and im here sitting in immortal 3. I am the strong one!!
Iam using g502 with max weights too, i have major brainstorm because i don't know how to add additional weight. I want to have 150 grams for my huge hands. BTW my penis is big too
@@pigeon8940 the g502 with all its weights is like 168
@@pigeon8940 r/iamverybadass
If you’re so strong then use a milk carton lol
I used to have owned two of their mice, the Kone Pro and the Burst Pro - both were terrible. Mushy M1/M2 clicks with a ton of travel, the scroll wheel feels and sounds cheap, and the coating drives me nuts. The Kone shape is comfortable on day 1 but from day 2 onwards it's impressively uncomfortable. Hopefully they start implementing some improvements moving forward!
Thanks for the critical review. I like the lower thumb button idea a lot and extra normal thumb buttons, but the DPI change key placement is weird (and who actually wants this feature?) and the post travel time you highlighted is a deal breaker.
why so long side buttons??? 2 of the seem to be too towards the back. still useful but the thumb must be bent a lot.
i have exactly the same problem with this mouse and I'm very disappointed. thanks for let us know !
To find a new wireless mouse I did two weeks of research, watched so many videos, read reviews and forum posts and finally bought the Roccat Kone XP Air today. I missed this review, because I used the wrong keywords, I guess. Otherwise I would have gone with the Logitec 502 X. But the Roccat suited my hand a little bit better than the 502. I hope that I will not regret the buy.
I tried the Basilisk and G502 X and returned both. I'm testing out the Roccat Kone right now and actually like it the most of the 3. Guess it just depends on comfort and how you will utilize the buttons etc. I've only had it for a day but I like it a lot so far.
I have the same problem, as I'm looking for an ergonomic mouse with plenty of buttons but not too many and is wireless, I narrowed down my choices to the Corsair Darkstar wireless and G502 X Light speed, I'm currently on SteelSeries Rival 5 which is wired and a "little ergonomic" but doesn't fit my hand and my palm grip style, as it's design kinda pushes you little bit to the right, is like your middle finger is on the right click, and it's so slippery and uncomfortable to use for long working hours, unfortunately searching online doesn't help as you said, the main focus is on cheaply made, overly expensive "light weight" mice with only extra two buttons on the side, so after this review my choices are narrowed down to only the Corsair Darkstar which is built like a tank and the G502 X light speed, I'm leaning more towards the Corsair, even though I kinda want the free scrolling of g502 and it's somewhat cheaper, so I suggest you both these mice and hope that helps
QI charging is a godsend for wireless mice , yet they all require the mouse to be placed on the qi area, or dock in this case, so all you have to do is dock it after use, and you never have a dead battery, its not a crazy concept and its much easier than having a wire dangling freely on your desk that you have to fiddle to insert the usb, its just a small qol feature that many love.
I disagree, its pretty useless. I prefer just plugging my mouse into a cable once in a while and still being abled to use it.
@@sternwayprovider well with a dock u can do both thats the point
yes, the scroll wheel button press is a HUGE problem. I have a Burst Pro and it gave me the same problem. I love the design but, that scroll wheel button press is bad.
How is the scroll wheel for strafing on apex?
Was thinking about getting this one buuut... Guess I'll keep looking then😂 Maybe Roccat makes a wireless version of their Kone Aimo someday 🤔
Since you use a Hystar mouse pad, I trust you, I'm avoiding this one, it will help if you made a comparison review between Corsair Darkstar and the G502 X Light speed, "not the plus".
For fucks sake, this is exactly the mouse I am looking for as I am running out of bloody keybind in WoW and I will never learn using a fucking Naga and the 604 right click button just kills me from bugging. Now I really have no idea what to do.
I play WoW as a healer, I can't stand 12 thumb buttons but 5 or 6 are great. Recommend the Razer Naga V2 Pro and use the side plate with 6 buttons, it's great.
@@Saint_Cuthbert I ended up buying the mouse because I couldn't find anything better. I honestly find it much better than the review might suggest. The easy shift key at thumb can be configured to be modifier such as alt or ctrl and a bunch of new hotkeys are opened. However, it is defo not the most comfortable mouse...
@@Saint_Cuthbert I got used to the mouse now and I must say its great for WoW. No idea about games where primary clicks matter tho, no issues with the scroll will on mine too.
I've got the wired version had it since release and now that I traded off everything except the kone Xp. Model O minus wired and an orochi V2. I never touch the kone Xp. And win more games with the model o minus but the orochi is easily the best of them all as weird as all that is
Great vid. 👍. I have to ask what sensitivity do you play apex at? Your character barely moves, think I have my sens way too high now 🙈
It's about 45cm/360
Still waiting for a Kone Pure Wireless
What model is your spiderweb deskmat? So cool!
Late reply sorry but I think it’s from Hystar or at least they have an extreme similar one
@@pureidiocracy1636 appreciate you. I found it + ordered like 20+ mats from Amazon, but the Hystar prevailed ;-)
how do u butterfly click
I had the Roccat kone [+] back in 2012, that one was good until double, triple click came after about 1 year.. sucked asses, so I decided to buy something cheap... later in 2020 I bought roccat again, but this time the white Kone Aimo.. and this one's still rocking and it's beautifull in combination with the white coolermaster h500p mesh desktop case.
Most of the complaints were warranted but the complaint about the charging dock was kind of dumb. I mean if you dont want the charging dock dont use it if you want its right there. There are plenty of mice that come with one and even some like razer that even charge more for one.
I have this mouse as a backup given that Logitech don't want my money for the G700s or G604. Seriously, why aren't they producing these mice anymore.
I feel like you're lying about a lot of this... I have the kone xp (non wireless) it's amazing best mouse I've used and I've been looking forever for another mouse that has a similar layout but lighter and wireless and I have yet to find one to replace my kone xp.
Sweatlords will find fault with any mouse that doesn't improve their KD ratio, but if you're normal, this mouse is perfectly serviceable.
it's sad because I've owned Roccat products for 12 years and I swore by them, but man their products have deteriorated since TB bought them and every single one of their products have some sort of issue.
oh turtle beach bought them, which explains why there have been probably 100's of vulkan keybaord with small failures on ebay [germany] from a shop that probably bought a whole load of returns or something. Such a shame indeed
hey man cool vibeo 👍
That’s cool but have you considered the drip>skill arguement?
Mash potato switches had me dying
5:00 What is that comparison mouse?
Sorry for the late reply, it's the Logitech g pro super light.
The setup of buttons on this looks almost perfect to me so if they could fix the mouse 1 and 2 buttons along with the scroll wheel it would be great. Personal preferences I would like it to be a tad bit narrower also but I also think your being too artistic in your critique of it, many of the points you complain about are non-issues compared to the one really bad issue, mouse buttons...
I'd still give it a try, some people are too picky and what they think is bad isn't really bad at all its just not as good as something else
@@imperialwhovian3461agree, eventually I will buy and try one
3 weeks in and I am returning it to Amazon. Charging issues as stated in the video. Heck, i seen it's tray icon say one percentage and the programs software screen say something else. RGB on the dock only works half the time then goes dark. Had to reset the settings back to default yesterday just to get the green charging led by the scroll wheel to start working again. Battery life with LED off... no way it is getting the suggested 100 hours. Mine is down to 90 after being in my hand a total of 2 hours after pulling off the dock at 100% Glad i experienced all this before my return window was up. Just ordered the G502x Lightspeed
"Mushy" buttons? Really?
Holy-shait am I glad I stumbled upon your video... was about to pull the trigger.😂
the "gaming mouse" market nowadays is a turd. i've actually used to use the original Kone Plus mouse from 2011, it was the best computer mouse i've ever had, unfortunately two years ago the MMB button on it started having weird issues where it would sometimes not register, so i was looking for a good replacement for it (i LOVED the weights system, i LOVE heavy mouse's) and honestly nothing in the market even remotely compared to how good the Kone Plus was, so i settled on a Kone AIMO which for me felt great ergonomically but it was not as weighty as my original Kone Plus mouse, it also suffers from Roccat's new design flaws which means that basically cleaning hand grime and dust off of it is actually a chore (too many crevasses and hard to clean gaps). but compared to anything thats available right now i have to say, every single offering from ALL companies todays is just completely garbage, uncomfortable form over function mouse's from every single manufacturer. i don't give a single flying fuck about RGB and LEDs, i only care about ergonomics and actual usable features. for example with my original Kone Plus i used to use the Shift button + the scroll wheel to control my computer's volume (i still do that today with my original Kone AIMO). the great ergonomics of the Kone Plus and Kone AIMO make it basically seamless to do so without even having to stretch a finger in an uncomfortable manner (something i CANT say about any of Razer's mouse's) another feature i used to LOVE with the original Kone Plus was that i could actually use the Kone Plus's shift key + any button from my keyboard to activate a 3rd button combination, i used to use this feature A LOT when i used to play MMORPGS... instead of having to stretch all the way to my Function keys i just continued using the regular number keys and used the shift key on my Kone Plus. this feature, as much as i'm aware is now completely absent with the Kone AIMO (or maybe its because i don't use a Roccat keyboard anymore since 2015?) either way i don't see that option in the driver settings anymore, nor does the Kone AIMO have the surface learning feature that the original Kone Plus had with actual visual footage from the sensor (and i don't mean distance control unit, that's something completely different).
PSA: everything in this video is 100% correct. On top of all of this, the mouse also disconnects constantly in game, with the only fix being to disconnect the dongle. Don't even get me started with their rma process, a scam at best. They keep asking the same questions over and over, and there has been 0 progress over the 4 correspondences I've had with them, with my last email to them being a recap of my first email to them, because they keep asking me the same things. I am extremely disappointed with my first purchase of a Roccat product. This is the first and last time I ever buy something they produce. If only you made this video before I bought it....
It's funny cuz I've had two mice from and both mice have had scrollwheel failures within 6 months. No other brand I've had has this record
OMG, what happened to your hand?
Which one?
Me not watching this video after I bought the mouse thinking it’s cool
Since im not cringe im not going to say 4th, but i do think this is a good video :D (you earned my sub :-> )
I believe in turtle mouse supremacy 🐢
turtle mouse the goat
When he compared the mouse to Razer, that's already a red flag I feel. Razer mouse surface feels nice to touch, yeah but give it awhile, it'll turn into a sticky pile of mess, you'll end up throwing your mouse away.
Very poor quality mouse, i love the design and feel but it broke within 2 months. Even within the 2 months i had many times happen that the mouse became extremely slow in moving (the cursor), and the only way to fix this was turning off the mouse, put it on the charger and put it back on. It also did not charge to 100%, only 80% and it was back to 40% within 2 hours. Never will i buy another one of this brand.
Ah crap, the buttons, layout and shape are *perfect* for me. Such a shame the main clicks, scroll wheel, finish and software is rubbish. Rubbish list too long, have to pass.
Roccat are doing shitty things recently imo
Roccat isn’t the same tbh… for me the Kone XP Air is okay (I'm more into Lightweight mice, I love my Deathadder V3 Pro lol) but the quality and the click feeling is just so bad imo, it’s sad to see
The charging dock is fine. I owned the Logitech MX700 from way back when and it had a dock that you would put the mouse on to charge when not being used. And it didn't even have a cable to connect. Some people don't appreciate what they got these days.
I still have a MX700, and while that feature is a bit annoying, one could always pop in another set of AA batteries to get them through in an emergency, then put it on the dock to charge it later... :) I really love that mouse, and I'm glad they still use that shape to this day.
Can I have this mouse?
No
aimo is honestly a joke, what it does is pretty much just go through all colors!
Do not buy this mouse or anything from roccat, quality is garbage connection is terrible and mouse wheel is known to fail on most devices
Still a downgrade from the discontinued Roccat Tyon.... RIP
What makes you say that?
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Oh I am the first comment Letz gooooo!!!!
Not wrong, it is really bad, the coating is the main bad thing for me, its so slippery.