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Titan i started watching you when you had american build series and the eagle then was so amazing but what are you teaching us today is INSANE. Thank you for everything, i have learned so much from you. If you would make more videos on fixtures i would be even more grateful. God bless you brother! BOOM!
You've got that right, fixturing is everything.
If you can build fixtures you are a genius machinist! Good job y'all. Awesome!
We specialised in pulley wheels, mainly "Poly V" We were the main supplier for Turner Newall who manufactured the belts etc. An easy part to make without too many tight tolerances. Made them from 20mm. to 1 metre diameter , about 1 ton. in all materials.
Also use a pneumatic or electric wrench you can set the torque real easy and put everything in the chuck twice as fast
Could you do a whole series from where you quote 100 parts show your thinking on fixture design, production cam and execution? I think there are a lot of people like me who still fixture the old way and this would help tremendously
you have an amazing ability to convey your thoughts in a way that makes retaining the knowledge much easier
I do not do anything like this in life, but you make it so interesting. I love your dedication and explanations of what you're showing all the time. Good luck with everything in life. Thanks for the lessons.
Your an inspiring guy. I watched your content for 8 hours straight....lol. keep up the perfect work!
Bad ass fixtures. Thank you guys so much for the classes.
Nicely done, excellent content and review. Good job and video. Ex KMT employe here. 35 years CNC retired.
Titan, Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge on fixturing. before watching your videos the only thing i knew about fixturing was basic universal pallets with dozens of holes for either bolts or pins. Now im designing my own fixtures, using Pitbull clamps and Tallon grips so that i can machine multiple ops and multiple parts at once, instead of one op and a few parts at a time. one main issue` i have is designing the fixture in my cam work space. hopefully when your tutorial on fixturing comes out you teach that part of the design. Any chance we could get a video on drawing prints? That is another major topic i need to learn and work on. Thanks Brandon.
Pallet clamp system and 2 fixtures would keep that green light on longer. And keep u in shape: ) There is a balance between load/unload, post-process work, and how many parts is the sweet spot to keep the operator as free as possible, while keeping the spindle running long as possible. Great vids.
Good explanation. Nicely done Stewart!
The 2nd most asked question - "How are you going to hold that ? " On this video - great thought as most of us just do one part on 5th just its not as productive - but its a good brain exercise of how can we use 3+2 to make more parts pre cycle - thks
at 8:18 Titan drops a heavy fixture on his foot behind the camera from the sound of it
I couldn't hear him swear, as someone "Bleeped" it out?
safety shoes for the win
Dude. So many videos! Keep em coming! BOOM!
I work in a small job shop, we have a repeat job from a larger shop that is a constant run of 2000 parts. We have a similar fixture using pitbull grips. Able to run 8 parts at once on a haas vf2. Blanks are 1×1×12.3 aluminum blanks. We kick out more parts per hour than the larger shop. Fixturing is essential to make money
Additional considerations on fixturing: 1. Be very conservative with the simplicity of the design: A complex fixture is costly to replace in terms of remaking one and the downtime on that job waiting for it. Simple, already made workpiece holding solutions such as Technigrip can easily be replaced when they get wrecked........And they will. 2. Design a baseplate with multiple hold-down/locating hole patterns so you can move it to a different machine when needed. If you dedicate it to just one machine and that machine goes down, you're dead in the water on that job. 3. Use steel inserts on threaded holes that see a lot of fastener install/removal. Threading steel fasteners repeatedly into aluminum fixturing is a guaranteed failure.
agreed
I'm huge fan here in the Philippines love watching ur vids.... Not just because you guys are awesome.... But also educational... 🙂🙂🙂🙂
The next step is a pallet exchanger, that way all your part loading can be done offline while the machine keeps running. Keep up the great work
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@Leland Kane Instablaster ;)
@Terrell Braxton I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and I'm trying it out atm. Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
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Titan, would it work if you made a custom box like fixture to hold four times the parts? Or, would it be just too heavy when rotating in the CNC?
We are lucky to have you Titan!
Nice insert 👍 and quite right sometimes simple stuff can be more lucrative .
got any videos on how to get started in a garage shop? Love the content and the positive straight forward message.
Another awesome video... thank you so much...go team TITANS
I’d be doing this on a mill turn thanks. Can’t see the part that clearly but assuming the holes are around the ‘outside’ and you’d be able to get to them. Nest two parts to best fit a nominal diameter bar, part it off(saves an operation) stick bar feed on (saves labour). You won’t have to billet the material and boom 💥 if it’s Ali I’m running lights out. Bet I could win that quote!
Your excitement is great. Good luck
Dude , I've been binge watching your videos for 13 hours. This is an amazing idea 💡. I cant wait to get my own machines bro , you've inspired me to change my whole life. This is so exciting for me, i couldn't sleep, been watching through out the night. Im going to purchase a desktop cnc machine to start building some hands on experience . I love you Titan , God bless you brother.
Build your own pal
hey @krazykiller i have cnc machines and i would love to work with you
Love your T-shirt Titan with the G-code coming off the eagle's wings! Keep up the great work!
For very large batches we have a robotic arm operating two Mazak’s with zero point pneumatic pallet system from Erowa. The only way to get a good profit. 2 machines run 24/7 without an operator
Great video. What I would love to see in a future vlog is about the best way to go about opening your own shop as a first-timer. For someone that has a hobby/converted cnc in their garage, with limited experience, Should you work at another machine shop first? Or just go for it and get a decent used vmc and rent a small space? Should you get work or have a product/part to make first? Avoid debt at all cost or take on some? I’m seeing this chicken and egg scenario, complicated by still needing a “day job” to pay for expenses. There are no machine shops less than an hour from me. Thanks for all you great content!
4 years late, but some insight: Opportunities with a single 3-axis VMC and no automation are limited. What can you do that a shop with a dozen automated machines can't do? What sort of prototypes and one-offs can you run cheaper/faster/better than a shop with a 5-axis? These aren't meant to be discouraging, and there are indeed possible answers to those questions that would make starting a shop viable. You just have to find a niche that works given your connections, capabilities, and market area. As a general rule though, one man shops rarely make decent profit for the hours invested. Guys work 60-70 hour weeks and barely clear more than they could make loading parts and pressing the green button 40 hours a week at a big shop.
I must be missing something here. Why aren't you using a conventional vertical 4-sided tomb-stone fixture, which would allow symmetric access to 3 faces of every part in one machining pass? With your staggered plate-fixture, for most of those parts, only two faces can be machined. Was this done due to the limited work-envelope of your 5-axis machine, or do these particular parts only need machining from two faces?
3:47 when your friend introduces you to your crush lmao
Titan, can you do a video on setting Fusion post processors to use multiple work offsets (ie. G154 p1 got a0. , g154 p2 for a90.) ? Currently I fix all my posts by hand, adding A values and fixing the offset lines. I’m using Haas EC-400s and VF machines with 4th axis. Thank you for what you do!!
Yes
Thank U Titan For ur Effort! BOOM!
This is a great video, very enlightening. I could see how you must maximize your equipment, space, time and materials and keep pushing the frontiers in your specific domain. Greetings from Venezuela.
Those 5 axis machines are Badass!! But, in another video I seen a 9 axis WOW!!
Any problems with tolerance after machining 16 parts together?
Is there a failer point weight limit to this process? Or could you have multiple fixture running or even a bigger fixture plate?
Do you guys have a second fixture to face off the second operation with the same quantity
Love your product. The entro is fantastic
You guys are probably the only place I've seen use more mitee bites than I do.
When the fixture is fully loaded, how are you machining the ends of each individual part?
Could you angle another identical (or nearly so) section of base plate off of one of the sides (like this: ^ ) to double the number of parts?
Nice job guys. Cheers from Vietnam
If you integrate part stops in to every slot in the fixture can't you probe the fixture? I would be a lot faster than probing every part on a sub plate.
What exactly is that part used for?? Great video btw love the prototype clamp for 5-axis
Great job Stewart!
Should never use a ball detent torque wrench to loosen fasteners. You over torque the ball detent overcoming the static friction. The reason you can use them either clockwise or counter clockwise is to torque left hand threads.
now if you have 4 extra base plates, you can load those while first four run.
it would have been nice to see it run.....
Titan, great fixture! Can you share some knowledge on how you old varius parts for the second op? holding a block is pretty easy, but how to you hold the profile of the machined parts without damaging the surface?
@@John-ik2eg thats super slow, must have multiple part fixture for op 2, specially since I never see him use horizontal with twin pallet.
American hype, I love it
if you needed to have through the lenght of the part, you could edit the fixture even further by doing these level again on each of the levels, making sort of a weird multileveled pyramid thing, which could probably be made by making an updated set of plates instead of making the whole fixture from scratch. also since the plates are removable, why not create an extra set of plates that you can load material into when the machine is running and then just switch the plates, instead of clamping the material in the machine everytime
With the sub plate, instead of using the expanding pins to lock them down, could you not have used a small dove tail cutter and then slid the sub plate onto the main plate?
Absolutely, there are a million ways... that’s why fixturing is Awesome
I'd like to see an overview of what is completely necessary in a machinist's tool box.
That’s a good one
Este é o mestre 👏👏
Big old torque wrench is a slow and cumbersome way to loosen those bolts and you have to reverse the ratchet between ops. Surely the yellow tool is good enough for loosening? And a shorter torque wrench would be quicker and easier for tightening? No criticism / only a suggestion - I'm always looking at what looks / feels quick and easy.
Always thinking efficient and ergonomic 👌 What came to my mind was a design that would trnsfer the motion of locking or tightening multiple part clamps (bolts) from a single point. Maybe a bit overkill though.
Just wondering, when running that many parts at once how would you offset mid run for machine, tool and coolant warmup without scrapping half of the material and in the end costing the customers more money in supplied materials?
Could have the same tool with sub offsets, like "T1" and "T1A"
The process of loading/unloading is a lot easier with electric drill with the torque set, especially if the parts are a lot smaller so you can nest a hell of a lot more on a plate. Snap on also makes a great small/light driver with an accurate torque that is perfect for quickly working all those bolts It also looks like there is still another op to run. Im used to pulling the plate out and rotating the parts along the fixture. So let's say thre are just two rows. One row would produce the exact thing made in the video. The next row would flip the part to machine the last face of the part. Then you getting into dummy proofing the fixture so operators that are moving like Nascar pitcrews have as few opportunities to make mistakes as possible, and that's not a dig at the operator. For example you dont want the subplates to only install in one orientation, you dont want to be able to rotate the plate 180 and have it actual attach. Even if it would work in THIS instance, as these things get more complicated you want the operator trained to know it only goes together one way. I've operated plenty myself and we wrote notes all over the fixtures to minimize error. Designing/building and hell even operating these sorts of jobs is my favorite sort of mill work. The day goes by fast.
I worked at a place where I used a rotary to hold 88 parts at a time, on 90 degree planes. First half of plate was one side of part, machining the part on -90, 0, and 90. Then the second half of the plate, the parts got flipped, and everything remaining on that side was machined. Both sides were programmed on one full cycle, so I would start the production run with the plate half full. Then, I would flip them and run the whole program the next cycle. 44 parts at a time were fully complete and 44 parts were half done in 1h45m. I was using a locking system similar to this video, not sure the brand. Initially I was doing it all by 3/8 ratchet and a 6mm hex. Full cycle time was 1h45m, and downtime was 45m-1h to clear shavings and move all the parts. Then one day I was feeling froggy, so I decided to race myself. I came in with my trusty snap on 3/8 torque wrench and got the downtime to an average of about 18 minutes. The boss thought I was lying so he watched me. I bet him, if I can get it done in under 20 minutes, I want a $1 raise. He said that to make the bet fair, I’d get a $1 pay cut if I couldn’t pull it off. I did it in 13 minutes, hauling ass out of breath. He gave me a $2 raise and send me home early with $20 to buy beer that night. Production fixtures FTW.
You guys are awesome when I get my CNC machine I am going to make some really cool stuff.
Could that fixture not be double sided and mounted like a tombstone getting you upto 32 parts per run?
With a hexagonal tower and 8 parts per face, you can even run 48 posts at a time (plus another 6 on the top of the tower)
Could I ask what your tattoo under your right arm says? Thank you!
Hi can you make one video in which you can described the tips and tricks for cnc milling?
Great info guys! A few weeks back you mentioned tool wear, any chance you could go deeper into this with settings?
I think I saw something on their website talking more about that.
Hello, how did you determine the specific torque value @6.25? Thanks
Doesnt matter ... just dont overtorque the bolts and make sure all bolts have the same torque
You are an amazing teacher! I'd love to learn CNC from you! Honestly would be a dream come true.
The fixture equivalent of stadium/theater seating...
Its been 3 months... ive had this video on replay since you posted... i can recite it word for word😳... still not rich...😱
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I notice that you have a lot of stock material on the part . @12:40
Need to learn how to use the torque wrench
You can also run one part a the time and put a robot in front of the machine if you have this amout on workload to design a fixture like that. Less employe, produce more good, that’s the future of manufacturing
Multipart is going to save on toolchanges, and robot loading does take time (possibly more time per part). It really takes some analysis to determine what the best option is.
What is it about these videos that make me hear a crowd faintly in the background chanting, "U.S.A. U.S.A. U.S.A ect...?"
Because Titan is like a big Uncle Sam
Any advice on removing excess stock on opp 2 would be appreciated get a lot of problems just facing it off
Anthony Ambler make softjaws, rough face it with an endmill and adaptive toolpath to remove the maximum of the excess then just skim rest of the stock with a facemill to get a great surface finish on the second side. Never face the unsuported material with a big face mill or you will have a bad time
Émile Tessier thanks that’s sort of what I’ve been doing I just wondered if there was another way I tried just facing at first but like you say it didn’t end well
How do you know when your making enough parts that it is worth your time to make a complex fixture like this one?
When you quote the job
How can I join you..??? I have also a 5 year Experienced in CNC operating and programming.
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surely you could save some time using a cordless ratchet to do up all those cap head bolts?
U.S and International patents applied for?.
with a 4 sided tower, u would have even more clearance and u could machine an additional side of the workpiece just my 2 cents
I was thinking the same thing but with 5 sides with a cross section like half an octogon. You could get an extra row of parts in there. There may be some other limitations but I think this is valid.
if the parts are right beside each other how are you gonna machine the side of the part? with that fixture, there's no way you can load 16 parts and utilize 5 axis machining.
8 parts at a time
Nice video , Thanks
Soo awesome man😍
Love it
Selling engineering like those money gurus is the way to go 😂😂
Make the fixture a 5 faced Simi circle and you can fit another row
Do this with ar lowers and you can get $2000 outta every plate you fill at $100 a pop for the lower
Hello sir Pls infromation in Cnc machine in fanuk cantrol
I thought clients want a relationship and quick support instead of cheapness which deals to disasters in long run
Depends on the desired outcome!
nice
0:41 on .25x speed to hear him say "eye button?"
Nice nice videos 💯 of the time but can y’all please star putting where y’all x y and z coordinates. Please I really enjoy watching
Most always centerline of rotation
Do I need to know CAD to make fixtures?
It certainly helps, you won't turn the concept into reality without!
I know that System. But load IT for 1 Day or Week an you hatte it. For one load screw 50 Times in and out
What’s a but ton?
what about making 16 with a single block
baammm, im rich baby, thanks titan
Y u click twice Only click once -the engineer that has to deal with your over-torqued hardware.
Omg and he used the torque wrench to loosen the screws This dude I swear
People believe in God but I believe in you ur such my inspiration ur God of CNC.
This is looks like a typical 4 axis part. On 4 axis fixture you could machine way more at a time with a simpler dove tail fixture.
Fischer977 I'm no cnc expert by any chance but you need to machine the dove tails in each part before you can hold it in your fixture.Where as these guys don't have to pre machine stock material.
@@mehmettemel8725 yeah. It takes 15 sec. Titan forgot to show you that he also machines a minimum chip , face and paralel sides that the mighty bites holds on to it