Picking the Best Used Dodge Challenger | Engine Comparison and Drag Race!
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Gasoline-powered Dodge Challenger and Dodge Charger models are gone after the 2023 model year. But fear not, there are a TON to choose from on the used market! In fact, there are so many, it may be hard to choose which is right for you. If you have questions, we have answers as Desola Bagolun and Edmunds' Director of Vehicle Testing Jonathan Elfalan explore the engine options and performance of these cars on the track, from V6 to V8 burnout machines.
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Dodge is making a huge mistake.
They don't have the resources to keep the V8s compliant with the ridiculous new laws. MOPAR just doesn't have the deep pockets of the blue oval to keep them alive.
No, their huge mistake was the lack of significant updates and innovations in these cars over the past decade while constantly raising the price. They waited until there was no chance to do anything about what’s forcing these cars out. They fell behind and stayed behind in terms of performance versus both their direct competitors and other vehicles in their price point. They’re a ton of fun, but a Camaro or Mustang is a superior car in every way other than, like, trunk space and rear legroom.
@@alexgilland2269 Not one to pay attention huh. For the last 5ish years they have out sold the Camaro And Mustang. They only reason that they are going away is because their current chassis and engines can't comply with tightening regulations and Stalanis can't afford to make them compliant.
@@alexgilland2269challenger had way better back seat space and trunk space
They are being fined for every engine they are making do to emissions and other stuff.
Bought my 2018 Dodge Challenger R/T from CarMax a few years back! Brutal power, insanely reliable and looks super old school😎 Greatest car I have ever owned!
How many miles and what’s the reliability/ maintenance looking like I was considering an rt or scat but manual
@@Tricolor40004 Currently at 34k! Dodge Challengers and Chargers are immensely reliable. I have never ever had an issue with any of our Mopars! My Brother also has an R/T Challenger and my Family has a 2016 Dodge Journey with 60k miles and no issues whatsoever. Everything about my Challenger is perfect! The transmission is super smooth and shifts wonderfully, the steering is incredible. I have the 8-speed in mine but I have heard the manual is very reliable and fun. Highly recommend getting one! I have seen Challengers and Chargers live well over 300k miles which is great because my Brother and I want to keep our Challengers for life!
Wait until you get in a Scat or Hell cat way different
Imagine saying a 5.7 is brutal power
@@40rollsonly depending on what you find fun it can be, not everyone finds fun in a car with 500 plus hp that’s just the toxic car scene nowadays.
Kind of crazy to me how a V6 Camaro can make 355hp naturally aspirated and the RT 5.7 has like 20 more horses despite being a V8. They really should have upgraded the 5.7 after all these years, at least give it 400hp.
It's the torque difference that makes the 5.7. Also remember the 5.7 is a 20+ year old engine originally designed to go against the LS1
They are really 395 hp same engine as truck.. Dodge under rated them because no one would have bought 6.1 425 hp... 30hp for 10 grand
that v6 was not that bad in the dragrace 👍
You got me realizing how much of a POS my V6 would be if I left it stock, but we love the gas mileage ig 😂
What did you do to increase the performance?
Lol, I got a borla cat back and cold air intake on mine, so im pushing like 335-342 crank. Gas milage is a huge W for us. My buddy has a 392 and usually gets 8-11 mpg the way he drives and thats on 91-93.
That seems really heathy, my 427 LS3 made 468 WHP on a Mustang dyno at sea level on a very humid 90 degree day.@@voltz6840
Bro same, i got a borla catback and a cold air intake and I'm slowly preppin for a twin turbo kit 😈. We all about smiles per gallon over here. But i gotta unlock my pcm first
@@voltz6840I get 16-19 on e85
I only wish they made an AWD Challenger with a Hemi! They have them in Charger form but those are mostly police cars
Nice cooperation guys, love both Edmunds and Carmax. I can see a great series in this, comparing a lot of models with different engines. Nice work, thank you.
Excellent info and video KNOWLEDGE IS POWER
I had an 11 challenger v6 and with the 5 speed auto it was a lot more fun to drive in auto stick. Used more of the gears cause it was slower. My average mpg was about 17-18. It had a tree fall on it and kill it. So I got a charger rt awd. It sounds leagues better, but using the auto stick, I only get to use 2 maybe 3 gears before it’s way over the speed limit or not able to corner any more. Averages 15mpg. Both have their pros and cons. The biggest reason I didn’t get a new challenger 6.4 when it was time was the insurance, over 100 a month more.
all the more reason to respect those higher hp cars
So glad I was able to purchase one of the Last Call RTs this year! It's definitely a step up over the V6 and it's not too hard on the gas because of the MDS included with the engine. MOPAR or No Car!
MDS literally destroys the engine though.
@@shannonpatrick77no it has been proven what causes the hemi tick is lots of idle time that can be fixed with a hellcat oil pump or meiling oil pump
You tested the wrong V6. Should have been the GT AWD.
GT by itself even without the awd is still better and it has a different gearing in the dif then the sxt
I bought my 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody (Octain Red) new from my local Dodge dealer for MSRP off the showroom floor. I still love it.
Another you have to consider is theft from srt 392 and upper trims are likey to be a target. I got the rt simply bc i didnt want my ride to be a target. Since then i have tuned, stage 3 cam, bigger tb, hellet cat intake,long tube headers, better suspension, wider wheels 315 rear 275 front,swapped the rear end gears to 2.92. I went from 5.2sec to 4.1 seconds 0-60 still spend alot less if i would get the 6.4.
My boy you just listed several reasons on why a mf will want to steal your car lmao😂
a lot of people don't realize Dodge doesn't display accurate 0 to 60 numbers their cars are always faster. I think the 3.6L V6 is pretty good not the most powerful but it definitely isn't the slowest, they'd surprise you. Obviously the V8s are faster too.
rt gets stolen too😂
Those mods aren't cheap though, you could have definitely bought a 392 after all that.
@@charlessynowiec3876cap
Great Video for someone considering the Mopar muscle car macrocosm
It’s amazing the 5.7 kept up
I bought both v6, & v8 chargers from carmax. Very reliable & fun cars.
How long did they last you?
I had the v6 for 13 months & it was solid. Then i traded it in for hemi v8. The V8 is even more reliable & more fun. I currently still have the v8. Its been 1 year & 7 months.
@@hemilifestyle1715charger?
@@charlessynowiec3876 yea
@@JPdraws_i have 07 srt8 i bought 7 years ago. Never had any issues. Was always my DD and even work car lol. 6.1 and new 5.7 are hella reliable, best engines dodge has imo. The majority of ppl do not take them in to get serviced tho. Thats the issue. 6.1 and 5.7 are some if best engines you can get
Excellent video livebit
Great I got the Jurassic SRT8
The new 8 speed SXT move !!!! I have a 2020 sxt & it gets busy !
Do a video now about all the Hellcats, OG Hellcat VS Redeye VS Super Stock. Also a separate video about the OG Demon VS D170.
Cool comparison! I’ve had a 5.7 and 6.4, both are really great. Based on my needs I chose the 5.7.
The RT was sleeping at the light, should of filmed a better run
Yes, I saw that. The V6 driver jumped out first then the 6.4 and the 5.7 got the delayed start.
if you ordered a gt plus with the suspension upgraded it had the rt suspension but v6. the v6 is aluminum
I love them all. I still love my V6.imma keep it
Bought my 2017 R/T Challenger 6Months ago and im more then happy :) Came from a Mustang GT 2014 - the Mustang was faster but the Challenger has better built quality and better looks IMO Cant afford the Scatpack here in Germany - Gas Prices are really high in Europe...
Yes they are and you pay by the liter too fuck that lol
I owned both the r/t and the GT awd in Mango orange -- to this day I miss that v8 sound but that aside the car had serious traction problems specially in wet and snowy northeast area ... kool for a weekend extra but not really an all around car ... the GT awd was neat all year round but trully was missing that grunt to backup the looks ... so basically either way you go your still missing half the car lol ... if I had the extra $$$ I would buy the r/t again hands down ... the 3.6 does things well but don't think anyone buys muscle cars for well alone ...
Still think the SRT 8 6.1 Hemi needs cridet it was the first engine to match the old school 426 Hemi an I still think it's more reliable than the 392
I like them all but the little V6 is plenty for me on public roads. On a track, I'd choose a V8. 😮
I have an awesome '22 Hellcat Redeye but I also have a lot of respect for my V6 SXT AWD that i drove down the 1/4 mile all stock with an ET of 14.5 secs @ 95 mph, which is as fast or faster than most stock V8''s from the sixties and gets 20+ mpg on avg..
I have a v6 but if dodge doesn't sell alot of v6.s there would not be a hellcat this is how dodge make the money to build v8.s
But this isn't the 60s
Bruv is yapping with the v6 I have one and it is quite fast stock the only mod I have is a louder exhaust which makes it so much better .
Fr they are so slept on and if u take it and gut it tuned u can really start getting more power with mods
The V6 is faster than the average soccer mom car on the road but if we talking muscle cars, the v6 isn’t even close
When I got my 18 Challenger my heart wanted the Scat Pack but my pockets were setup for the 5.7. I don’t have many complaints because I barely use the 370 HP I have access to. Still dreaming about getting a 6.4 as a backup
Drssr
Love my scat but have pondered if I shouldn’t have went 5.7 and supercharged it. edit: if you do go 6.4 and not widebody look for one with the dynamics package imo slowing down from 150 or more you’ll appreciate the extra stopping power plus they supposedly are the nicest riding for extended trips and touring
I bought a neat 6.1 srt8 over the new models. Tbh im happy.
My 2015 SRT is still running strong. No issues.
So about $11K to go from the 5.7 to the 6.4…. I’m not a Dodge guy and don’t know much about the 5.7 RT. But I might be tempted to buy the 5.7 and add a power adder to it. Example I had a 98 C5 with an LS1 rated at 345 hp at the motor. The car was a 4 speed auto & not the best of trans options in my opinion. The car rear gear was a 2.73. The car ran 60 mph in 1st gear and 100 mph in second and something like 140 in 3rd and forget 4th. I changed the gear to a 3.42 (same gear as the manual tran car) and added a centrifugal supercharger (Vortech V3 SI ) making 9lbs of boost. The end result was 474 WHP/442 TQ. That’s 130 WHP over what the motor was rated. My best guess is the ls1 was making about 570 hp at the crank. I would take a long hard look at the 5.7 and we’ll, if a manual trans is available it could be a potent little package and $11K would get you there. Maybe even less depending on what you have to change to support all the HP you just unleashed. Also, you will need at least a 305 tire to have any chance of getting all this extra sauce onto the road and not just into the air… In the video below I was running nitro 325’s. I lifted on the second gear shift to just not blow the tires off the car. Watch the speedo at the shift and the traction control. The car was wrenched by Ryan’s Performance Machines in Garner NC. They did a good job tuning the car. 1998 C5 Corvette 0-60 mph in Under 4 sec kzhead.info/sun/qdF6iauwrqqnlq8/bejne.html
Don't. Test drive a 5.7 then a 6.4. I've had both granted the 5.7 I had was the 2005 hemi non vvt
@Davis2920022001 the 5.7 is better for modding and boost 6.4 is a NA beast though
I own a 2016 Challenger RT Plus which has the 5.7 V8 and all the bells and whistles. I was thousands less than a scat pack that had the bigger engine but fewer options. The rearend from the factory on the RT is a lame open diff. That is a big reason it falls so far behind the scat pack in performance. The Hellcat 3.09 limited slip diff is a direct drop in and can be bought and installed for about $1500. With the 8n speed automatic, it really wakes the car up. Having the 5.7 also saves on insurance over the scat pack.
There's still a fair amount of new 2023's available on dealers lots. I just bought a new Scat Pack less than two weeks ago (3/02/24). Better hurry though, each one sold is that many fewer choices.
Kind of what I thought for the SXT for someone who is used to blasting down the road they would want a v8 over a V6 for my price range & what I’m looking for a V6 SXT is perfect for me
Same. Got my SXT the fuel economy is great, insurance is great(new driver btw) And nothing but compliments from everyone.
Sxt challengers are very nice cars alot better than the average car and has awd
@@MysiahTMare you planning to upgrade?
@@dot8531 cosmetically yea(hellcat front bumper and wide body kit.) might add a borla exhaust. That’s about it.
Glad to see my 5.7 really ain't much slower than the 6.4 @8:50 and 8:53 it really shows the 2.62 diff over the 3.09 diff 🤷🏾♂️of course the 5.7 wasn't going to walk him in but the 6.4 wasn't going any further, the gap wasn't going to increase even if they ran 3 miles
The rt is the best model honestly you can find one for not too bad of a price and a few mods and your almost pushing scatpack hp for less the money
People gotta remember the 5.7 is over 20 years old, originally designed to go against the LS1, of which it did really well 🤷♂️
It requires a V8 engine to even start considering a vehicle to be a Muscle Car but you need to define what it takes.
2021 Scat Pack, white knuckle , 6 spd, with the dynamic package here... no wide body so nobody really notices me lol
Challenger without V8 is like any normal car, if you would like to buy real beast, get V8.
What if I don't care about thumping my chest that I have a v8 or participating in the stoplight grand prix, cab I buy a v6?
Is there a charger that isn’t a hellcat or a scatpack that’s a v8 ?
Showed no love to the v6, GT awd definitely your best bet for a muscle car for snow and ice
I bought my srt8 Chrysler 300 with a 6.4 from yall 🙌
Putting in consideration that i dont have big boy money, and i l really have no desire to change another set of 16 spark plugs ('04 durango, 5.7l v8), id gladly take an appealing looking v6. Yes, you get more bells with the higher trims, more 💩 to fail honestly. If i want balls to the wall power, id build one up for cheaper. Just my $0.02. :)
To make a 5.7 as fast as a 6.4 it will probably cost about the difference in the car price. With that said, you still wouldnt have a scat pack challenger not to mention some of the other features that the scat pack has. Also you need to think about which vehicle will hold more value. So if you want to go as fast as the 6.4, just buy one!
The V6 is probably your best bet if you want to stay in a good price range all a way around and also if you want to keep the cops off your butt.
You can't get away from the cops with the V6 because they have 5.7 engines.
I rarely get to even find manual Challengers at my local CarMax, let alone one within 150-200 miles from me.
Awesome!
I’ve driven v6 and 5.7 the only difference is the sound there’s literally barely like 30 more horse power in the R/T it’s 0-60 is barely a second faster than the v6 the scat pack is slow and most muscle cars are dusting it, trying to diss any car with any amount of cylinders is pointless because there will always be a newer better faster car 💀 u can do donuts in a v6 charger with 140 on the dash and u don’t ever ACTUALLY need to go 200 mph AND half the people that do get these fast cars crash them.
Yes, but after the 60mph, that's when you should notice a difference between the R/T & V6, The V8 will pull alot easier at speed as opposed to the V6
Fr I raced a rt in my stock sxt and he told me himself I’m faster than he thought I was gonna be
So you drove and V6 and a 5.7 which means you never drove a 6.4 but you claim it’s slow 😂😂 you guys crack me up….instead of hating just say you wish you had a 6.4
@@user-pp9bl5gr1n the 6.4 is significantly slower than the srt 6.2 I’m saying the scat pack is slow because it can get dusted by multiple cars on the road even the hellcat can but the hellcat obviously is faster and sounds better
@@user-pp9bl5gr1n 6.4 isn’t the best engine 💀😭 6.2 cooks the 6.4 and the v6 Nissan gtr nismo cooks both of them and that’s a 3.8 lol should I say ur wishing for a gtr ? Because it’s better than a 6.4 AND a 6.2 ? Lawyered
Awe, look at Edmunds trying to act like they are Motortrend..that is so cute..
Challenger R/T, can’t go wrong, affordable and mean. You don’t need a getaway car for errands, but you don’t want the v6 since it’s a completely different experience.
Original owner of a 2015 B5 blue scat pack shaker 392. The exhaust notes are demonic and it can be downright scary to drive. Will never ever sell it.
idc what the car nerds say i love my 2019 challenger SXT V6. First car i bought at 19 and it meets my daily needs hehe
When are gonna upgrade?
Tech and updates? 😂😂😂 that shit was funny
Idk man my all black v6 GT sum nasty; and quiet like a panther it dont got that roar like the bigger Cats but it rides almost silent sneaks up on a mf
Where’s the SRT at!!
I had to sell my rt to go back to the sxt. It’s taken me a year to be ok with it. After watching this I feel beaten up again. Thanks
Why?
Damn hope all is well…hope you can get a 6.4 one day
If you are buying a used Hemi, you are rolling the dice. No way I would risk it.
A used hemi is more reliable than a used bmw or Mercedes
How do you not know that Dodge is bringing the gas Charger back in 25? 24 will be all electric 2 doors, 25 will bring back the gas 2/4 door and electric 4 door. The gas models will have 2 versions of the Hurricane 6 cylinder.
Well very cool car no doubt that ' so the wide body doesn't do nothing. It's how you can drive it kid.
I pick the V6 lol (seriously) don’t want to pay for premium gas or the insurance 😅
Dodge hasnt updated any of their cars in a very long time. Makes sense for them to not even try with a next gen.
driver hating on v6 doesnt know what hes saying
My 5.7 RT keeps right up all scat packs trust me stock everything just 91 gas they end up getting left 😭 now hellcats and track hawks I don’t even bother
😂😂 ok bud
Does 91 gas have an impact on 5.7 rts?
You can put 91 in your tank but your engine is not designed to benefit from it you gain no power/perforance from doing this all you are is wasting money and if anything its reducing hp a tad bit 91 is designed to resist detnation for high compression ratio engines that utilize turbos and or superchargers higher octane fuel alone doesnt increase hp... your claim alone is wild being able to run/ leave a scat pack which has 115 more hp not a chance.
Going in blind, I’d say the 5.7 small block V8 is the best all-round driver, and the best value.
All new cars today are way overpriced. I paid $27,000 back in 2016 for a low milage Challenger R/T and it had leather interior, blind spot monitoring and the upgraded Alpine stereo. Today new it would easily be in the mid to high forty thousand range.
Theft factor considered: The R/T is the best choice. With anything like a Scat Pack/ Hellcat, you’re looking over your shoulder every second.
Yes, bro, what saved me is debadging my car first day when I got it.
They steal all challengers and chargers. Trim doesnt matter
@@DRWP10idk why some folks don’t get that
And the Mustang just keeps rolling.
I have a 2014 RT. And a Car lot offered me 19 thousand dollars for it. Said they had customers looking for one
I don‘t care what dodge is doing now, i‘ve got my 6.4 and just death can seperate us 😂
They should be four cyclenders till kid's learn how to drive
The v6 is slow enough
@@shaynesinor6970theyd probably make a 4 cylinder turbo that matches up with the v6
disgusting
This is so wrong specially with the V6 review, it was so obvious that you guys planned this out and prepare what to say prior the video, having a smaller engine if a car have more than engine types it doesn't mean that the smaller ones is the worst and its bad, V6's are V6's after all and many many sport cars have a V6 engine and they are super fast, plus the sound of a v6 is nice as well its smooth and it fits the car also, its not a 2.0L 4 cyl, uuugh when he said that he is full throttle and nothing is happening that was really frustrating.....Its a 300Hp car whaaaat theeee, he was talking about it like its a 75Hp kia, there is barley a second difference between V6 and Heme's in 0-60mph times
Instead of being butt hurt look at the facts…..most v6 sport cars have a turbo on them to them faster, Sxt doesn’t have that Another factor is weight a v6 with no turbo with that size of a car definitely will make the 305 hp feel slow
@@user-pp9bl5gr1n 6.6 Sec 0-100Kmh is not slow bro definitely not slow, and not yes some V6's have turbo and some don't, but still doesn't make it slow if it doesn't, i my self have the 2012 SXT 8 speed version and i have beaten a good amount of good and some of them considered as fast cars to mention a few: - 2011 BMW 530I (3.0L) NA - 2011 Hyundai genesis 2.0L Turbo - 2014 Honda Accord Hybrid (212HP) - 2014 Mercedes C250 coupe - 2015 Dodge Ram HEMI 5.7 (Pickup) - 2010 Chevorlet Camaro has the same engine size 3.6L (But 6 speed gearbox) You know why the Charger SXT was faster than those casrs because it has a good V6 Engine + a good gear (8speed ZF) So yes I'm a bit butt hurt but i have every right to be
Don’t call it a muscle car wit a V6 unless there’s superchargers or turbos involved…..😂
Stop bashing the v6 is still a mopar and dodge didn't make their cars to complete with other mopar they made to go against chevy and Ford manufacturers
@jasontoddredhood9954 thanks but I love the v8 100 do u have one I'm on a raffle cj on 32s for a demon 170
Uncle ruccus theme song
I’m a firm believer in staying away from used cars as much as possible in most cases. You never know how the previous owner(s) treated it.
Well well well
Ok with the V6 charger for training purposes.
And everyone of them are beat to hell by the first owner
Edmund's is definitely not known for being car testing kings... 😂 i wouldn't say most people have forgotten about Edmund's. Hagerty is making a decent comeback to relevance but only because they make entertaining car content. This was interesting but entertaining. The host needs more personality
Yall people kill me hate the v6 they all the same manufacturer but different hp I have a v6 and there wouldn't be hellcats if dodge didn't sell a lot of v6.s
Lmaoo just stop, I had a v6 and now have a Scat….a v6 isn’t a muscle car let’s be honest
@@user-pp9bl5gr1n who the fuck is you dum shit muscle this nuts
@@user-pp9bl5gr1n lame ass nigga challenger v6 is mopar and so as v8 challenger mopar dodge didn't make they cars to go against other mopar they made they cars to go against chevy and Ford no hard fillings never xall me a lamo cause I'm a grown ass man
@@user-pp9bl5gr1nhis point is valid though, without people buying a V6 Dodge would’ve been down bad
it a 11k difference from the r/t cause them breaks and suspension plus motor
I GOT IN
Cant wait to see the V8 boys cry when the new 3.0TT whoops the outgoing Hemi's asses
Actual TIMED stats would have been much appreciated pertaing to the track time and 1/4 mile race.
The best dodge Challenger is a Mustang.
I wouldn't buy a used charger; challenger, hellcat for nothing. cause all of them going to be dogged out .
My 19 scat pack has almost 70kmiles i put 6 k miles since agust and its running really good for high mileage
SRT8 gang
Challenger SXT plus 2015 to 2017 best if you ask me. Then challenger shaker as there the least seen on road an less driven V8 power an super fast the chargers were driven so hard an by young driver an by the groups who swore they were gods gift to racing so there pretty torn up after a few months to year
If I can only afford the v6 I’d just get another car
Yea do like others and settle for a mustang or Chevy
Dodge needs A challenger T/A Hurricane V6. WITH at A minimum of 400 horsepower
No
I’m very disappointed in the quality of this video. This is obviously made for a lowest common denominator consumer and therefore lacks any technical nuance. The Edmund’s host was clearly chosen for his good looks rather than intimate knowledge of cars.
Dodge: we now make EV muscle cars:) Chevy: same bro Ford: yall call that a fucking muscle cars nah we make gas still
Ford: hey all over competition is gone, so let’s keep making gas cars to stay alive
Nope in 2025 a v6 option will be there
Inline six in 2025
Just cause they can't be a battery car.
Whoever is revving the scat does not know how to rev
All yall started late....