The Minecraft Mob Vote Was BOTTED - I Have Potential Evidence

2024 ж. 13 Мам.
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This years minecraft mob vote had a lot of drama, but one thing we weren't expecting was for it to have been botted. I was skeptical, but got in contact with a few individuals who gave me evidence I just couldn't ignore...
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0:00 - Intro
0:36 - The Mob Vote Discord Bot
1:14 - The Exploit
3:00 - The Modified Script
3:57 - The Botting Begins
5:43 - Evidence That the Vote Was Botted
7:13 - Evidence Against the Vote Being Botted
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  • What is this? A mythical rarity midweek misterepic upload? Haven't had one of those since 2020! I spent 2 days straight on this so you better subscribe :) Discord - discord.gg/WGc9UNM Also, because I can already see the comments, I want to make it clear that I retold the story of the botting from the individuals who informed me of it, and I present evidence for and against the potential botting of the vote. You need to watch the video and make up your own mind.

    @TheMisterEpic@TheMisterEpic6 ай бұрын
    • alright

      @handlesbelike@handlesbelike6 ай бұрын
    • but why did they choose the armadillo?!!?!@ 1

      @michieldegraaf4243@michieldegraaf42436 ай бұрын
    • I reallly hate the fact people or bots I guess voted for the armadillo which was only for the armor. Mojang in the videos seem fishy these days but what do I know.

      @pugster_101@pugster_1016 ай бұрын
    • Maybe Mojang didn't want to program in crab rave :(

      @Ace_D_ead@Ace_D_ead6 ай бұрын
    • lol saw this vid 30 sec after release

      @jensuttenking@jensuttenking6 ай бұрын
  • The mob vote is supposed to be a fun event, but with every year it feels like it's going further away from it's original intention. These cause so much hate and arguing that it's probably a better idea to either remake the mob vote, or scrap it. EDIT: Thank you everybody for the likes. I wish every single one who read/is reading this a great day!

    @rahj0@rahj06 ай бұрын
    • @@wilh3lmmusic People like you are the reason the mob vote is so toxic now

      @artemis_furrson@artemis_furrson6 ай бұрын
    • WE WANT ALL THREE

      @emilydavidson8844@emilydavidson88446 ай бұрын
    • Crap the idea to the pits of hell *NOW*

      @Nell_Hell@Nell_Hell6 ай бұрын
    • Nah, yall idiots are actively trying to ruin the game

      @ruviknoproblem@ruviknoproblem6 ай бұрын
    • Aaa

      @anna-gt2mu@anna-gt2mu6 ай бұрын
  • Oh no~ Since the voting was scuffed, that means we just have to get all 3 mobs instead of 1. It’s only fair, after all!

    @BandannaBread@BandannaBread6 ай бұрын
    • We can only hope. 🤞 But realistically Mojang is just going to be lazy and just only add the armadillo. I will be surprised if they add all.

      @penguinpingu3807@penguinpingu38076 ай бұрын
    • @@penguinpingu3807 what does laziness has to do with mob vote?

      @atsizbalik@atsizbalik6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@atsizbalikThey're too lazy to actually figure out how many votes were actually botted

      @danielkanelopoulos201@danielkanelopoulos2016 ай бұрын
    • @@atsizbalikThey could easily add all three

      @doomchromee8648@doomchromee86486 ай бұрын
    • @@atsizbalik if the mob vote is rigged, that it would be smarter and simpler just to add all 3 mobs instead of doing another vote.

      @penguinpingu3807@penguinpingu38076 ай бұрын
  • Honestly the fact that China was included in the mob vote for the first time explains it well enough for me. Chinese players who don't speak much English probably never saw much of the English speaking community's discussion, so if on average they preferred the armadillo, it's not like we'd know or consider their votes. Who knows though, hopefully Mojang will be transparent about what happened

    @claireh4756@claireh47566 ай бұрын
    • Crab seems very lame to me and voted just for the memes. No wonder it lost on the real polls.

      @novaangle2183@novaangle21833 ай бұрын
    • ​@@novaangle2183exactly, we didn't need another stupid "GlOw SqUiD" like mob added to the game. We needed something with REAL use, the armadillo can give your dog armor finally, much better than being able to reach further by one whole block.....

      @nova14414@nova144142 ай бұрын
    • @@nova14414 The best thing is they're changing the armor to make your dog invincible until it breaks.

      @bobbieplayzzz8972@bobbieplayzzz89722 ай бұрын
  • C'mon now if you're gonna troll a whole community you shouldve bot voted the penguin to make everyone question everything

    @ScytheyFPS@ScytheyFPS6 ай бұрын
    • no people would have been ok with the penguin. An armadillo just sucks and that's why you got it.

      @BSasafrasK@BSasafrasK6 ай бұрын
    • facts

      @azuresiren5846@azuresiren58466 ай бұрын
    • @@BSasafrasKhonestly penguin could revolutionise minecraft travelling. nether ice boat + penguin, imagine that

      @gamemassacre1251@gamemassacre12516 ай бұрын
    • ​@@gamemassacre1251Armadillo is superior to penguin

      @ThiagoBv@ThiagoBv6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@ThiagoBvyeah

      @jeannesery9936@jeannesery99366 ай бұрын
  • I think saying there was more mob votes than last year is ignoring a crucial fact is that the voting servers were open for 48 hours compared to 1 hour. It allowed people who couldn't attend Minecraft live to actually vote too

    @iansarmiento23@iansarmiento236 ай бұрын
    • This ^ Take in how much more of the casual/outside of the minecraft internet community could have easy access to vote means the internet polls are just polling a select demographic from minecraft My nephew is young enough that his response when I tols him Armadillo won was "tell mine craft to add it already. We need that armour for our dogs" He didnt care about the other options I mentioned that lost. He was just excited when he heard dog armour 🤷‍♀️

      @jewels3846@jewels38466 ай бұрын
    • couldve sworn it was pen 24 hhours

      @catsdogswoof3968@catsdogswoof39686 ай бұрын
    • Still doesnt make sense that all other polls ever had the armadillo win, it was always the crab.

      @ToxicMothBoi@ToxicMothBoi6 ай бұрын
    • ​​@@ToxicMothBoiAcknowledge that Minecraft isn't only available on English speaking countries, on polls from Brazil, the Armadillo was winning, and i heard from others it also was a favorite in China. Also, maybe a bunch of crab voters were trying to add all 3 by not voting on the actual vote, but polls aren't the actual vote, and therefore they voted the polls and not the actual vote.

      @birutologo@birutologo6 ай бұрын
    • @@ToxicMothBoi I saw someone say it could be from the other parts of the world

      @Slantt@Slantt6 ай бұрын
  • Another consideration is that I have a suspicion younger players are most likely to vote for the armadillo (the assumption is that younger players play more casually and care more about having pets within the game). In which case these players are less likely to have a voice on social media/take part in twitter polls, meaning there were a lot more players who preferred the armadillo than we thought.

    @albert9248@albert92486 ай бұрын
    • I can verify this. my younger brother (10) voted for it because he thought it would be cool for pets to have armor

      @ayvx@ayvx6 ай бұрын
    • I was about to comment the same thing, well said

      @charmzon@charmzon6 ай бұрын
    • This is exactly my thinking. It also explains why there were more votes, because the mob vote took place on twitter last year and was most likely unable to reach many players, so putting the vote in the game would increase the number of votes, especially from younger players

      @nedac1336@nedac13366 ай бұрын
    • Yeah my younger bro voted armadillo i voted crab

      @gamesdocanaldothi3477@gamesdocanaldothi34776 ай бұрын
    • Yes my younger siblings voted for the Armadillo because of the dog armor being cool

      @DrownedWick@DrownedWick6 ай бұрын
  • I don't think they were botted in the end. A lot of Latin America votes were for the armadillo, while the American votes were for the crab. Also, most votes were on Twitter anyway, and a lot of kids who aren't on Twitter might vote for the armadillo because they want dog armor more than a reach extension.

    @MadJaz@MadJaz6 ай бұрын
    • Verdad, pero me sorprende sabiendo que el Ricardo emese dijo que el cangrejo era la mejor opción

      @Gookwear@Gookwear6 ай бұрын
    • most of europe also voted for the crab

      @Davkoagent@Davkoagent6 ай бұрын
    • @@Davkoagent What data do you use to prove that?

      @JoMaTo1@JoMaTo16 ай бұрын
    • @@JoMaTo1 i speak with people from europe lmao, i asked 27 people: crab: 14 armadillo: 8 penguin 5

      @Davkoagent@Davkoagent6 ай бұрын
    • @@Davkoagent that's a pretty small pool of people...

      @JoMaTo1@JoMaTo16 ай бұрын
  • Ah yes, Mojang underestimating the knowledge and talent of it's own community. A tale as old as time.

    @brickstonesonn9276@brickstonesonn92766 ай бұрын
    • Ahh yes, baseless theories when your side loses in a democracy, tale as old as time

      @aviowl8945@aviowl89456 ай бұрын
    • ​​@@aviowl8945ahh yes, a trans defending a corrupt/rigged system, tale as old as time

      @xdrastig_4207@xdrastig_42076 ай бұрын
    • @@aviowl8945 YWNBAW.

      @trolioharambe2031@trolioharambe20316 ай бұрын
    • ​@@aviowl8945"baseless"?

      @Lengrend2814@Lengrend28145 ай бұрын
    • @@aviowl8945dude, the glow squid won I rest my case

      @Greenmansillyguy@Greenmansillyguy5 ай бұрын
  • the sad thing is, even if the mob vote was botted, mojang probably wouldn't change it to make it look like they never made a mistake

    @bajilliam@bajilliam6 ай бұрын
    • It was but it was before the vote was totalled, the Amarillo won.

      @Avaitor_YT@Avaitor_YT6 ай бұрын
    • We Just have to rely on the petition unfortunately

      @benjrobrt9029@benjrobrt90296 ай бұрын
    • It’s possible Mojang purposely tried to make the sniffer win it’s mob vote by not giving enough context around the other 2 mobs

      @Nintenblox@Nintenblox6 ай бұрын
    • @@Nintenblox The votes follow a similar pattern already and are probably rigged anyway. It goes 1. Bad Mob (Enchantment Eater, Penguin, Moobloom, Unsure about Biomes.) 2. Thematic Mob (Big Squid 1.13, Taiga having the best villages 1.14, Mountain in to be added with Caves and Cliffs, Icologer for 1.17, Sniffer for archology, armadillo for combat)

      @SyntheticNuclear@SyntheticNuclear6 ай бұрын
    • @@SyntheticNuclear Biomes were all going to be added, the voting there was which one would be first. Also, the vulture, goat and frog were all going to be added. The penguin wasnt the bad mob tbh. The armadillo was.

      @Predated2@Predated26 ай бұрын
  • I did notice that even though US polls favored the crab, a lot of polls of latin america favored the armadillo. Along with the Chinese internet being essentially isolated, it really feels just that most of the polls were biased on a region basis.

    @dede6giu@dede6giu6 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, MythicalSausage's poll even favored the armadillo (he's from Puerto Rico, so I don't know if his has a larger Latin American fanbase).

      @JenInMinecraft@JenInMinecraft6 ай бұрын
    • Most of Brazilian Players voted for the Armadilllo, since he is a beloved animal here along with being the mascot of the most popular world cup in brazil, and brazilians care ALOT about the World Cup

      @InkGX@InkGX6 ай бұрын
    • O pessoal não saca que Minecraft é um jogo com uma audiência no mundo inteiro, e não apenas um jogo jogado pelo pessoal que fala inglês, e normalmente esse é pessoal que também não fala nem uma outra língua, então eles nem entendem nada fora da cultura deles... visão muita limitada da nisso ai.

      @Cuestrupaster@Cuestrupaster6 ай бұрын
    • I'm from Argentina, I don't have much friends that play minecraft, but the one's that did said that the crab was the better option, they only mentioned the crab so I didn't know what the other 2 mobs were

      @harukilol727@harukilol7276 ай бұрын
    • most of chinese voted crab

      @zht-te5tn@zht-te5tn6 ай бұрын
  • Votes turning out different than expected happens a lot online because people always only consider pre polls from english speaking communities.

    @leaveacomment@leaveacomment6 ай бұрын
    • English speakers should be the only ones allowed to vote tbh

      @xenn4985@xenn49856 ай бұрын
    • ​@@xenn4985 ????

      @Zhung36@Zhung366 ай бұрын
    • @@Zhung36 did i fucking stutter?

      @xenn4985@xenn49856 ай бұрын
    • ​@@xenn4985 🤡

      @mabellee1511@mabellee15116 ай бұрын
    • @@xenn4985 based

      @nolader28@nolader286 ай бұрын
  • I know a bunch of people who voted armadillo but just, arent that active on social media. Im thinking that the silent majority wanted armadillo while the vocal few wanted crab.

    @Starry-help@Starry-help6 ай бұрын
    • Another thing, people who posted polls, normally have their own fanbase that will be the majority voters. I've seen polls with the penguin winning or the armadillo. What about kids? A lot of them may not have youtube. I believe that the armadillo could have easily won.

      @rat_in_a_bucket@rat_in_a_bucket6 ай бұрын
  • The Chinese vote inclusion could maybe also explain why all the polls on Twitter didn't show the same result, as maybe China limits/blocks access to Twitter from inside China, so Chinese Minecrafters aren't included in the Twitter polls.

    @Lampe2020@Lampe20206 ай бұрын
    • And since the crab rave meme presumably has no presence in China, it’s not like the crab has any pop culture edge in China like it does in the West

      @rykloog9578@rykloog95786 ай бұрын
    • Or maybe they also just don't watch the same KZheadrs as us which I find to also be highly likely.

      @connorallgood0922@connorallgood09226 ай бұрын
    • @@connorallgood0922don’t they have their own ‘youtube’ where outsiders have no access?

      @Chips569@Chips5696 ай бұрын
    • the chinese know the Meta, they only get 2 seconds of playtime each week, of course they woudlnt vote for the crab, they have working braincells

      @user-zd3iz3xx6k@user-zd3iz3xx6k6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@user-zd3iz3xx6kdude don't insult the other people, we shouldn't fight over a silly mob

      @eriottomakurashi@eriottomakurashi6 ай бұрын
  • I've seen tons of foreign people hard advocate for the armadillo. Which is something a lot of people don't take into consideration. US isn't the only country voting. A lot of people across the globe simply preferred different mobs. For example, I've seen a lot of Brazilian fans and influencers rooting for the armadillo because it's Brazil's national animal. And Brazil isn't exactly a small country. I'm not saying there wasn't rigging, but Armadillo's victory could be a 100% legit.

    @nobodyimportant281@nobodyimportant2816 ай бұрын
    • It's exposed for if you say "armadillo" "armadillo" it counts as two votes for armadillo in one vote

      @nekogamer2508@nekogamer25086 ай бұрын
    • You raise a good point. Another thing to consider is that these poles were taken on youtube, and likely only older players might have seen them. We don't know how many kids are just playing on their moms phone and just voted for the armadillo because it was described with the words "cute" and "dog"

      @TheHatManCole@TheHatManCole6 ай бұрын
    • ​@TheHatManCole older players also voted armadillo because mojang are notorious for not adding what the community expected from the mob vote. So maybe more than half a block placement distance vs guaranteed dog armour ( will become pvp meta ) is a lot more favourable.

      @dob_z@dob_z6 ай бұрын
    • I totally agree! And polls on twitter or even youtube are not great data, considering that not everyone has these platforms.

      @Caffipwred@Caffipwred6 ай бұрын
    • Most of brazilians I talked to actually voted to the crab.

      @nemesissombria@nemesissombria6 ай бұрын
  • Although I feel as though the mob vote having an attempted botting attack still didn’t seem to affect the final total, it should probably have a re-vote like most things do, but mojang isn’t most things

    @krngameender6820@krngameender68206 ай бұрын
    • You be like:*😠DO IT AGAIN* Mojang be like: _Do you even know what planning we did for Minecraft live to have the mob vote. and the coding like the mob vote server and the mob vote to even show up on the launcher 💔 WE TRIED ARE BEST AND YOU STILL DIDN'T LIKE IT_ the lesson is "_you get what you get and you don't pitch a fit

      @heyman666@heyman6666 ай бұрын
    • bro is the type to defend billionaires when they donate 10m to get hundreds of millions of revenue, “aTleAsT tHeY dOnaTed!!! tHrOw A fiT aNd yOu geT wHaT yoU dEsErVe!!1!1!”

      @ezrajrperida100@ezrajrperida1006 ай бұрын
    • @@heyman666 I wasn’t saying it with malicious intent, I just feel that it would be right to do a re-vote as the vote from this years could’ve been affected by the cyberattack

      @krngameender6820@krngameender68206 ай бұрын
    • @@ezrajrperida100 are you one of those people that hate Mr Beast

      @krngameender6820@krngameender68206 ай бұрын
    • @@krngameender6820 he isnt a billionaire yet tho, so no

      @ezrajrperida100@ezrajrperida1006 ай бұрын
  • I don’t know if it was botted or not, but you said that “every single poll on the internet had the crab as winner”. That’s not correct. Here in Brazil, all the polls had the armadillo as winner. And Brasil has one of the biggest minecraft communities. 💪 Anyways, mob vote should end!

    @geleia0@geleia06 ай бұрын
    • Please explain to me why mob votes should end. I'm waiting.

      @redcube4933@redcube49335 ай бұрын
    • ​@@redcube4933 mojang should just give us all 3 mobs instead of having some BS voting system Also, don't reply to a month old comment with "I'm waiting", it's rude and entitled.

      @violet7773@violet77735 ай бұрын
    • @@violet7773 Mojang can't add all 3 mobs not because it's too hard to code or because they're lazy, see the April fool's updates, but because Minecraft isn't terraria or Fortnite, it's a game that points to being simple, if you don't like simple game it's obvious you will find Minecraft update's "lazy", plus with the mob vote you aren't choosing which theme mob will be in the new update, but you're choosing an extra, no mob vote means no mobs aside from the ones related to the update. Also Minecraft is almost a 15 years old game, there's not many other games this old getting free updates, Minecraft is probably the only one Also wth does the date of the comment have to do? Ye I was rude I know, that was my intent, being rude so people reply, but since I'm in the right here they'll make stupid points blinded by the fact that they feel attacked, which I will prove they're stupid and I'll enlarge my ego, that's my goal

      @redcube4933@redcube49335 ай бұрын
    • @@redcube4933 Being rude to get a response is only going to make people ignore any point you may have, especially when you double down by saying something like how you're in the right. That really only works when you're talking to true scum of the earth that just about anyone can agree should not be treated respectfully. Minecraft doesn't have to do the mob vote, they could simply just not have put it in place in the first place which would have prevented people from getting pissed off about it when it doesn't go their way. Hell they could still do the mob vote, but just do it internally among the company instead of externally, that way the people who actually have to code the stuff would be doing the one they're most interested in anyways and it could be this cool little bonus to an update. Forcing the community to choose is only going to piss people off even if it does increase interactivity.

      @kr42yw01f@kr42yw01f5 ай бұрын
    • @@kr42yw01f yeah I guess you're right since you're ignoring my point. "An internal vote in the company so they can decide which mob they like the best" bruh, that already happens, it's something very common in game development. And like I said, if you get pissed off by your favorite bunch of pixels not winning a vote and getting added later on, you're clearly not old enough to be on the internet

      @redcube4933@redcube49335 ай бұрын
  • At this point, there should be something like "Mob Vote rejects update", where every single mob that didn't win their respective mob votes come back. Or maybe a "Mob update" in general, but... eh.

    @InkkuStudio@InkkuStudio6 ай бұрын
    • hear me out make all losers of previous mob votes be in a new mob vote to create maximum drama

      @MarvinA2@MarvinA26 ай бұрын
    • ​@@MarvinA2yes.

      @memeboi3448@memeboi34486 ай бұрын
    • @@MarvinA2yes

      @slidingontheice@slidingontheice6 ай бұрын
    • @@MarvinA2 yes

      @Concorde_lol@Concorde_lol6 ай бұрын
    • @@MarvinA2 yes

      @InkkuStudio@InkkuStudio6 ай бұрын
  • The thing is, the armadillo was a favorite on latin america, specially on Brazil (some of the brazilian youtube comunity votes had the armadillo with over 90% of votes)

    @joaoandrecolaco385@joaoandrecolaco3856 ай бұрын
    • bruh I still voted for the crab ☠️

      @jonathandefreitas8545@jonathandefreitas85456 ай бұрын
    • Not just that, armadillos were most likely to be voted on by the more "casual" + younger side of minecraft's community. Kids are less likely to have access to the internet (as in, social medias), and even if they do, they're not going to be on twitter and would follow different youtubers when compared to the crab crowd. Was there botting? Most definitively, it's kind of unavoidable But is it fair to use botting as a way to claim the armadillo shouldn't have won, even though there are plenty of other reasons for it to have? No, absolutely not

      @someoneintheinternet757@someoneintheinternet7576 ай бұрын
    • ​@@jonathandefreitas8545tambem

      @justawobblyslime8357@justawobblyslime83576 ай бұрын
    • I was thinking the same, I'm from Brazil and here we love the armadillo (aka tatú) with all our heart :>

      @perfeitoni@perfeitoni6 ай бұрын
    • @@perfeitoni Bhahah I am Brazillian too!! Really happy our silly little fellas won

      @someoneintheinternet757@someoneintheinternet7576 ай бұрын
  • Hello, a certified armadillo voter here. I can affirm that there are other yt channels that did an unofficial poll and can assure that the armadillo won by a huge margin(in those polls). It just depends on your (the viewer) preference of content creator or what content they produce.

    @umchile-7618@umchile-76186 ай бұрын
    • True, same here, it depends where you're looking, if you want to see votes for the crab, you'll find it, same with armadillo. I personally saw a 50/50 split between both mobs winning. And, this does count for everyone voting, only some will take part in the polls, and other like myself, just formed their own opinion and voted without the twitter and KZhead stuff

      @lexi_hana@lexi_hana6 ай бұрын
    • Yeah most polls i saw that included the “no vote” option had armadillo winning. I think people who boycotted were mostly crab people, or maybe juat randos who went “oo crab” and dis the community vote but didnt actually vote. If you look at the votes on KZhead from other countries almost all are in favor of armadillo.

      @IcyDux@IcyDux6 ай бұрын
    • ​@IcyDux There's one more fact: Usually crab was the first in the list. Anyone who didn't want to vote would have just gone for the first option, thus increasing the number of "supposed" crab votes.

      @4nowand4ever89@4nowand4ever896 ай бұрын
    • @@4nowand4ever89 good point. I honestly think armadillo won fair and square.

      @IcyDux@IcyDux6 ай бұрын
    • yeah, most people from what I've seen voted for the armadillo, and nobody really cared for the crab or penguin

      @TapsWaterr@TapsWaterr6 ай бұрын
  • It is so weird seeing some of my online acquaintances being talked about in a youtube video.

    @ezweber_the_great@ezweber_the_great6 ай бұрын
  • the extra votes this year can also be accounted for by the mob vote being open for 48 hours beforehand & the other effort Mojang put into making the mob vote more accessible to the playerbase. I think the bedrock audience favoured the armadillo, as they already have longer reach than Java

    @infurgent2708@infurgent27086 ай бұрын
    • i'm not playing on bedrock and chosen armadillo i have no clue what playing on either platform has to do with chosing a mob

      @theender664@theender6646 ай бұрын
    • ​@@theender664infurgent explained right above why it could have a link to the version

      @MrEnderman12@MrEnderman126 ай бұрын
    • nah I play on java and voted on bedrock and I voted for the armadillo becuase I didnt think the 2-3 extra blocks the crab claw gives you is worth it

      @James54590@James545906 ай бұрын
    • You also have to keep in mind a lot of kids play minecraft. Kids love their pets, so it would make sense why they would vote for the armadillo.

      @tCOREet@tCOREet6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@James54590 So dog armor is worth more ?

      @yotacaz@yotacaz6 ай бұрын
  • To be fair, this year's mob vote was included in the actual game client and very accessibly compared to last year, which might explain the spike in votes

    @-mattking@-mattking6 ай бұрын
    • The vote was included in the bedrock app too though last year...

      @T1nyRaccoon@T1nyRaccoon6 ай бұрын
    • kzhead.info/sun/fNyOfqqJpmKVaaM/bejne.htmlsi=mP3tDPPfKJpkQPjH

      @BryanHC08@BryanHC086 ай бұрын
    • ​@@T1nyRaccoonyea but not EVERYONE had bedrock last year unlike now. Although im not sure if that was after or before the mob vote. I think after. However unlike before China was actually allowed to vote in the global mob vote this year which super big population. Plus it only makes sense we'd get more and more votes every year as it becomes more and more accessible. Plus it was open for two days this year so people like ne who forget day one can vote on dat two.

      @powerrangerblue8566@powerrangerblue85666 ай бұрын
    • Absolutely and with China (wich is a BIG country) being included in the vote it’s not all that surprising that there were more voters.

      @silh3345@silh33456 ай бұрын
    • What are you trying to say lad?

      @MarvenFilipinas@MarvenFilipinas6 ай бұрын
  • The botter code probably didn't work. If there were communities botting for crab and armadillo, then the penguin would be waaaay back in total votes

    @Dani_el_Duck@Dani_el_Duck6 ай бұрын
    • I feel like the lil crabsters got a lil mad that the crab didn't win so they decided to say some outranges things lol I wanted the penguin to win just cause i like penguins, but there wasn't a lot of people talking about them so I just voted for the one that gives dog armor or smth i thought that would be cool instead of reach the crab gave🧸

      @Xienaa@Xienaa6 ай бұрын
    • @@Xienaa I actually voted for the penguin because Penguins are cute. The most you see a mob is in the wild so, unless there is a great technical application (claw was overrated) for the feature, I think you should just go with your gut

      @Dani_el_Duck@Dani_el_Duck6 ай бұрын
    • I voted crab cuz I like building and don't really leave my spawn

      @GhostyWins@GhostyWins6 ай бұрын
    • I voted for the armadillo because the dog armor (when I mean dog I mean wolf) would make me see a lot of dog owners. I was gonna vote for the penguin but then I remembered that boats were fast enough to begin with. And why make boats _EVEN FASTER_ on ice if the boats are already going 1 million miles per hour. And crab... two words: TOO OP.

      @heyman666@heyman6666 ай бұрын
    • @@GhostyWins bro just walk forward, crab claw is absolutely overrated, with armadillo (I voted for) you could make total armies and is incredibly helpful for utility. dogs can already resist alot with healing, with armour they will be soldiers.

      @huxathon@huxathon6 ай бұрын
  • Tbh I think a lot of the armadillo votes were from young children who do not have an online presence. Dog armor caters to a younger and more casual playerbase in general, whereas the crab claw is something that mostly would be liked by people who have been playing for a while.

    @haxalicious@haxalicious6 ай бұрын
    • Except if you were playing for awhile how would the claw help you? You're standing next to a 3 block tall wall, are you going to make it 4 with the claw? Not unless you climb it. You've just build the ceiling with a claw, but now you need to build the roof or lights so you still have to climb up. You're making the 4 block wall longer, the claw isn't going to help you. The incredibly rare situations where a claw could be useful is replaced by arcane magic from the depths of unholy places. This magic is called Dirt Block, Scaffolding, and Planning things out.

      @Buglin_Burger7878@Buglin_Burger78786 ай бұрын
    • Dog armor just sounds cooler and cuter than a crab fist or whatever that extends ur block reach

      @Xienaa@Xienaa6 ай бұрын
    • I Have been playing for awhile and I picked armadillo

      @heyman666@heyman6666 ай бұрын
    • @@Buglin_Burger7878 Most people just keep their dogs in the corner of their house so armor will not really be useful. Besides, they do too little damage to be usable in pvp and I think placing ender crystals and other blocks further would be more useful when fighting. Even with armor, dogs still die to their most common causes such as lava, most falling and a hit from a high-power sword. Even so, dogs are pretty much worth 2 rotten flesh (breeding) and are easily expendable.

      @peepe3741@peepe37416 ай бұрын
    • @@peepe3741 If you breed a lot of wolves they can easily overwhelm and annoy an opponent but yeah, I think the reason mob votes suck so much is that all the mobs are either extremely annoying (phantom) or rarely used (every other mobvote).

      @icanonlyhave50charactersin30@icanonlyhave50charactersin306 ай бұрын
  • i feel like every mob vote they have 1 obvious correct vote that is way more developed and interesting from the others and then two other less developed options. Its like 1 of them is like already made and then they just add in two other concept ideas. dont take my word for it i probably dont even know what im talking about it just seems so weird to me

    @ZeroNeedsCoffee@ZeroNeedsCoffee6 ай бұрын
    • coffee

      @oatleaf@oatleaf6 ай бұрын
    • ☕️

      @oatleaf@oatleaf6 ай бұрын
    • I agree, which was why the frog was added immediately because it was supposed to win

      @HeruCSGO@HeruCSGO6 ай бұрын
    • And if the obvious one doesn't win they just add it in later and the rest get sent to the graveyard

      @nekogamer2508@nekogamer25086 ай бұрын
    • None of the three choices this year stand out to me as being supposed to win though

      @ttmfndng201@ttmfndng2016 ай бұрын
  • I think it's pretty obvious that while the Crab was most popular among dedicated longterm Minecraft players, the Armadillo was much more popular among the casual audience who make up the overwhelming majority of the playerbase. Most MC players are literal children, they probably heard the words "dog armour" and instantly made up their mind

    @Slaking_@Slaking_6 ай бұрын
    • ....Or either make an equipment using copper as a extending gizmo arm instead of making anoþer sluge on a messy code. Dog armour? Use þe existing scutes. Boat boost? Furnace boats if you're insane enough.

      @johndexterzarate6663@johndexterzarate66636 ай бұрын
    • I voted the armadillo because the mangrove swamp already has had recent updates and has a unique mob (the frog) so I wanted the armadillo so the Savannah could be more fun to go to.

      @androidluvsklei@androidluvsklei6 ай бұрын
    • “You had me at dog armor”

      @ChristophersDrawings@ChristophersDrawings6 ай бұрын
    • @@androidluvsklei me too dude i think everyone here is just really butthurt. the mc community has been super disrespectful and kinda awful for this vote and its been making me sad. no wonder why mojang's votes feel "lifeless" to people, they're ruining it for everyone by getting so mad!

      @leafyyay6190@leafyyay61906 ай бұрын
    • @@johndexterzarate6663 or have it as a beacon effect or a new potion.

      @meepmeep2706@meepmeep27066 ай бұрын
  • THey could add a better system to validate each vote. For example since It looks like the script they ran generated lots of new accounts, they could have a policy that only accounts that have existed for a certain period of time can submit a vote, for example, any account under 2 months old cant make a vote.

    @SammichLS@SammichLS6 ай бұрын
    • It dosen't generate accounts, it generates tokens

      @redcube4933@redcube49335 ай бұрын
  • Many of the people in the Spanish-speaking community had followed game content creators in their childhood. Many of these creators played alone and the only company they had was a pet, mostly a wolf, and it was not unusual for it to die after a while in the series due to a mob attack. I feel that's the main reason of why the armadillo won.

    @eyei6535@eyei65356 ай бұрын
    • Oh noooo a video game pet died. Boohoo go cry to mommy. You people really love fake pets, The pets you have aren't even real, They are only a program to serve you.

      @Devil--Pro@Devil--Pro6 ай бұрын
    • Y porque asumes que los youtubers hispanos eran los únicos que tenían perros y/o se les morían sus perros xd

      @Gookwear@Gookwear6 ай бұрын
    • Dude, in all of my 10 years of playing minecraft solo, I can count on 1 hand, how many times I've tamed a wolf, and I bet my pinky that over half of the wolf taming community tamed them to just sit it in their base...literally never using it in combat.

      @kazekami7313@kazekami73135 ай бұрын
  • I feel like even though it may not have had too much of an effect on the vote, the fact that we do know that botted votes were input at least in a small amount is concerning.

    @MrInfinityGD@MrInfinityGD6 ай бұрын
    • It’s a big effect, I mean literally at the start of the video he said every poll had crab winning.

      @musselache866@musselache8666 ай бұрын
    • That could be explained in another way too. And let's face it, we're not finding out the truth either way, as Mojang wouldn't admit it if the bots did impact the results

      @rohnekkdosi1979@rohnekkdosi19796 ай бұрын
    • ​@@musselache866 Yes but that's only a vocal part of the community, which might be something like 20%, there plenty of people that play minecraft that do not have twitter/ reddit or other social media platforms that still participated in the Actual mob vote. I even skipped the twitter polls since they are pretty useless, but did end up voting for the armadillo in the actual mob vote

      @monaxia2524@monaxia25246 ай бұрын
    • @@musselache866 Not everyone uses Twitter, I mean half the Minecraft community is probably like under 13

      @experk@experk6 ай бұрын
    • They didn’t count not votes. Stop being salty crab lost

      @proggz39@proggz396 ай бұрын
  • It should also be realized that a significant amount of the community did not vote, because of the stopthemobvote trend happening at the time, some polls on Twitter would even give you the option to say that you weren’t voting, and a large number of votes went to that

    @mattdraft@mattdraft6 ай бұрын
    • I really do think the number of people who intentionally didn't vote isn't enough for Mojang to care.

      @thepurpleguy36@thepurpleguy366 ай бұрын
    • As a player who supports the “stop the mob vote” movement I still voted for armadillo as I know they aren’t going to change their plans 3 days before the live event. I’m sure anyone who said “I’m not voting” really mean they support the movement and that at least 20% of who ever selected that option still voted anyways for similar reasoning as I have.

      @shad0w_l0ckz66@shad0w_l0ckz666 ай бұрын
    • The amount of people who followed the #stopthemobvote are inconsequential compared to the amount of people who voted.

      @LoinkLoink@LoinkLoink6 ай бұрын
    • @@shad0w_l0ckz66they won’t change anything with that attitude also we’re not necessarily trying to to stop this one mob vote but all of them

      @notwamby@notwamby6 ай бұрын
    • This is not true. The amount of people who used that hashtag and DIDN’T vote is so small and far from significant.

      @MeatloafingCat@MeatloafingCat6 ай бұрын
  • The main reason why people are getting more and more worked up about this is that in the beginning Mojang promised to gradually add the losing mobs later on and never did. We haven’t seen a single mob vote mob added (except the frog because it was to add another mob for the wild update)

    @Ghv5t@Ghv5t3 ай бұрын
    • The frog was part of a Biome Vote which is different from mob vote. So they haven't even added a single mob vote loser.

      @acebobe@acebobe3 ай бұрын
  • If you checked tiktok, most of the community talked about wanting the armadillo, so 🤷‍♀️

    @rentlee1606@rentlee16066 ай бұрын
  • And here I was thinking people just latched onto the Armadillo because they heard the words "cute" and "dog" in the same sentence. Now there's an entire rabbit hole to it.

    @CapitalTeeth@CapitalTeeth6 ай бұрын
    • Good luck searching through!

      @4nowand4ever89@4nowand4ever896 ай бұрын
    • theres no rabbit hole. this is just crab voters malding and coping that their useless little crab claw didn't win the vote. you do realise this is the first time china was able to vote, and armadillo was very popular with them this year. not to mention the countless 6-12 year olds who play Minecraft which are more likely to choose dog armour than a crab claw. armadillo won and they need to accept that. its so cringe.

      @travisdingolaite6184@travisdingolaite61846 ай бұрын
    • ​@@travisdingolaite6184twitoid detected

      @exterra4378@exterra43786 ай бұрын
    • ​@@travisdingolaite6184That's actually true. I was being sarcastic.

      @4nowand4ever89@4nowand4ever896 ай бұрын
    • The only rabbit hole is why crab voters are too fucking lazy to move 2 blocks forward to place another block in a video game.

      @craigvine@craigvine6 ай бұрын
  • I feel like the discussion I see online regarding the mob vote often fails to account for the fact that an inconceivable amount of children (who don't interact with Reddit posts and KZhead polls) play Minecraft. Especially since the mob vote was heavily integrated into the bedrock client itself this time, I'm sure most of these kids clicked on it, voted the armadillo because they thought it was cuter than the other two (and it protects their doggies) and moved on.

    @storytheboardofficial@storytheboardofficial6 ай бұрын
    • This!!! I've been saying that all the children would vote for "dog armor and savannah update" since all 3 were revealed. It was so obvious what the outcome would be.

      @JazzyWaffles@JazzyWaffles6 ай бұрын
    • exactly. people saying "stop the mob vote!!!" don't realize that they are more than likely not even 1% of the whole community

      @xx_luigi_xx7223@xx_luigi_xx72236 ай бұрын
    • Exactly people need to realize minecraft is mainly a kids game

      @Lumberjack_king@Lumberjack_king6 ай бұрын
    • And maybe Chinese players

      @Pas995@Pas9956 ай бұрын
    • we want funktion, not cuteness besides the crab and pinguin was cute as well

      @stellaomera8489@stellaomera84896 ай бұрын
  • From the description of the hack, it really sounds like microsoft could do a data warehouse query to join the tokens with xbox logins, then filter and do a unique/most recent per user. Its pretty standard backend engineering to store everything, so you can slice and dice it later. Every vote request can go through, but that doesnt mean it will end up counted

    @lomiification@lomiification2 ай бұрын
  • I had first thought before I clicked on the video that Mojang had botted the Minecraft Mob Vote to try and ignore the ongoing outrage about stopping the Mob Votes, and bot the Mob Vote so it would seem legit. But this makes much more sense now

    @TheyJusLikeMeFR3636@TheyJusLikeMeFR36366 ай бұрын
  • I think the botting theory fails to recognize the sheer quantity of casual minecraft players. The previous mob votes didn’t offer a catered feature for casual players (wolf armor would appeal very heavily to casual players, whereas the crab claw feels too technical to understand as an unknowledgeable player) and thus a much larger demographic of minecraft users had a reason to vote this year. Casual players are the VAST majority of minecraft players, so it makes sense a feature more casually oriented would win by default.

    @10Gpixels@10Gpixels6 ай бұрын
    • A game should care about it's dedicated fan base more than the casuals

      @E10979@E109796 ай бұрын
    • ​@@E10979Maybe, but how do you defign the difference?

      @agsilverradio2225@agsilverradio22256 ай бұрын
    • @@E10979 Yeah....no the hardcore fanbase doesnt keep a game alive, the Casual one does.

      @TheLastRaven6@TheLastRaven66 ай бұрын
    • I think reaching a couple extra blocks is more simple

      @Tickle_ur_toes@Tickle_ur_toes6 ай бұрын
    • @@E10979 I mean, should it? The casual players are the majority, and therefore bring in the most money through quantity alone. Ignoring them in favor of the minority would mean a huge dent in their income. No company is going to do that.

      @vormiam9242@vormiam92426 ай бұрын
  • I remember when we used to get several new mobs, let alone multiple cool additions at all, in a single update

    @iHateHandlesGetRidOfThis@iHateHandlesGetRidOfThis4 ай бұрын
    • Microsoft is extremely lazy, we get a update a year yet Notch updated it a week or a month. We get 1 new mob almost each update when what we should get is multiple new mobs. This is why Minecraft needed to stay indie, because Minecraft would be way better than this.

      @RandomGuy_225@RandomGuy_2253 ай бұрын
  • im a programmer and I make stuff like this. it was totally botted. do you have any idea how easy it is to notice if your being rate limited? if your being rate limited you receive a special error code and can adjust the minimum post intervals to accommodate this time, if done right you can do it perfectly. i did something similar on roblox.

    @weemarb@weemarb6 ай бұрын
  • It's truly sad how someone can be so arrogant and just a horrible human being to bot a voting for their own enjoyment.

    @JustKille@JustKille6 ай бұрын
    • bad take

      @defeatSpace@defeatSpace6 ай бұрын
    • they probably wanted the vote to be canceled

      @maevwat@maevwat6 ай бұрын
    • @@MakinamiPhYTThat is the worst fucking take i have ever seen, You are overthinking this way to much

      @doomchromee8648@doomchromee86486 ай бұрын
    • He’s based

      @emilydavidson8844@emilydavidson88446 ай бұрын
    • who even cares, the mob vote sucks anyways

      @mcloughlinguy4127@mcloughlinguy41276 ай бұрын
  • When a The Mister Epic’s video gets published on other days than Sundays, you know it is serious stuff.

    @vicix_dev@vicix_dev6 ай бұрын
    • Is it though? I know that rigging a vote is a particularly serious thing that needs to be taken in consideration, but at the same time... it's the mo vote, not necessarily a serious event per se.

      @OneLikeOthers@OneLikeOthers6 ай бұрын
  • Is there a world download or something for the world shown at 1:56? I love the style!

    @RockOrBluesInNorway@RockOrBluesInNorway6 ай бұрын
  • 3:30 this code is has a massive problem, as while it does indeed generate a random delay to call the vote() code with it only generates the delay time once, then sticks with it for every call the better solution would be to use setTimeout, then in that call, activate estTimeout again with a new time

    @EnderCrypt@EnderCrypt4 ай бұрын
  • I think there was just more casual players participating in the vote than usual, since you could vote directly via bedrock edition. The armadillo looks really cute and casual players tend to like dogs a lot, but most probably don't go voting on KZhead polls.

    @spellfox_@spellfox_6 ай бұрын
    • Bedrock players could vote the same way last year too though, I remember voting sniffer lol

      @teoni8765@teoni87656 ай бұрын
    • @@teoni8765 Didn't that server get Hacked?

      @OneLikeOthers@OneLikeOthers6 ай бұрын
    • Yea I don't vote on Twitter or x but I do love the dogs

      @100madmic@100madmic6 ай бұрын
    • fuck you for voting sniffer@@teoni8765

      @biogene9297@biogene92976 ай бұрын
    • Yeah like 90% of people I’ve heard said they wanted the armadillos, the ONLY times I saw a majority for crabs was KZheadrs or KZhead polls. And most of the polls are people just picking a random thing, and is nowhere near proof that people wanted the crab more

      @liluziintrovert@liluziintrovert6 ай бұрын
  • If the votes would be tied to accounts that own the game, then maybe the vote servers simply tossed those bots, because while they are new users, they aren't valid users.

    @Hazearil@Hazearil6 ай бұрын
    • It unfortunately doesn't work like that, you have to have a minecraft account to get the token, and because they discovered a method for tokens, they were able to skip the account identification completely Also, fyi the (java) system (they're rather similar) works like that: You open minecraft with a token (a string of characters), which you get when you authenticate to microsoft servers by opening the launcher and logging in. Then, the token is used in a parameter for the jar command launching the game (like -Xmx or -Xms - assigning memory for the java virtual machine) Then, when you join a server, the token gets sent to the server, which then authenticates you with the microsoft servers. This is on by default, and is used for most private servers/smp's, and also some servers like Hypixel. Bedrock's token is probably also requested when the game starts, or when you log in, and because it makes a new token everytime, they could vote infinitely.

      @bbolken@bbolken6 ай бұрын
    • If that happened, then all iphone users who voted, wouldve had their votes thrown out, which is also bad

      @darkithnamgedrf9495@darkithnamgedrf94956 ай бұрын
    • ​​​@@PalmDevsBut then wouldn't this mob vote have, like, over 10 million votes or something? It had only 5 million, even with the entirety of the mc community voting. I don't think the bots really made a difference here.

      @4nowand4ever89@4nowand4ever896 ай бұрын
    • ​@@PalmDevs​​I know, that's why I said the bots didn't make much of a difference here. Plus, even if they did, I don't think it would matter that much.

      @4nowand4ever89@4nowand4ever896 ай бұрын
    • They probally checked the origin of tokens and compared them agains some account database, and removed all the invalid ones. @@bbolken

      @SectorfiveYT@SectorfiveYT6 ай бұрын
  • What other games series makes it's players fight over essential or wanted features and scrap the losers?

    @BigFatJuicyMonkies@BigFatJuicyMonkies6 ай бұрын
  • It's also sus that last update the ancient mob sniffer got added on the archeology update. And now the dog armor for the combat adventure update... 🤔

    @kalebv1860@kalebv18606 ай бұрын
    • Also not to be controversial but voter ID would be the solution for this. You have to log into your account and you only get one per account

      @kalebv1860@kalebv18606 ай бұрын
  • Fun fact: in 2017 only 2680 people voted in mob vote. If there were 40 more votes for The Great Hunger, it would be added to Minecraft instead of phantom

    @matowid498@matowid4986 ай бұрын
  • You know what's the best way to avoid all this drama? Release all three mobs. That's all.

    @MegawackyMax@MegawackyMax6 ай бұрын
    • Real

      @Wubz_Official@Wubz_Official6 ай бұрын
    • I agree. But think about how long that would take to code, and they don't want to overload us with tons of stuff all at once, they want it to be spread out over time so we keep playing until the next update, effectively giving them more money.

      @Pickle236@Pickle2366 ай бұрын
    • ​@@Pickle236tons of people are gonna hate you for this take, just letting you know now

      @BruhManOnYoutube@BruhManOnYoutube6 ай бұрын
    • @@Pickle236 modders can add 3 mobs in like an hour

      @Wubz_Official@Wubz_Official6 ай бұрын
    • @@Pickle236 Modders could add 30 mobs in the time it takes microsoft to release one. You are just straight up wrong

      @deemcgann1695@deemcgann16956 ай бұрын
  • What is that background for the nighttime scenes? Is it a resource pack?

    @tybaltharr3304@tybaltharr33046 ай бұрын
  • I never stood any chance for the mob i wanted to get voted. I voted Penguin.

    @legendarylaghyt7509@legendarylaghyt75096 ай бұрын
  • When talking about the polls on KZhead and Twitter, keep in mind that this year's vote had specific features designed to get the younger MC audience voting. First of all, the voting window was more than DOUBLE the length of last year (24 hrs in 2022 vs 48 hrs & 15 minutes in 2023), to make sure everyone had a chance to vote. Second, they made sure to emphasize that you could vote in the bedrock server (highly accessible to kids on phones/tablets), and had it highlighted in the main menu of Bedrock edition. Finally, the entire Chinese MC playerbase was able to vote this year. Granted, not all of them will be kids, but this still adds a bunch of votes to the total. TL;DR: I don't think the vote was bottled. The evidence just isn't there, and there are reasonable and probable explanations to all the points made in this video.

    @calebblaze1313@calebblaze13136 ай бұрын
    • The only reason is it is hacked

      @lakshmb6136@lakshmb61366 ай бұрын
    • Exactly

      @Lumberjack_king@Lumberjack_king6 ай бұрын
    • This year was the very first time Minecraft rewrote their user guidelines to explicitly define the game as a "children's game", meant to be safe for those 10 and under. Microsoft does not care that the average age is 24-27. Even how the employees act in the videos, super hyper and fake smiles, it's all pandering to kids. They don't care about US anymore.

      @TheJaguarthChannel@TheJaguarthChannel6 ай бұрын
    • bro did not watch the video

      @swigy.2@swigy.26 ай бұрын
    • Imagine ignoring all the evidence

      @corbis7765@corbis77656 ай бұрын
  • Abnormal API usage would definitely look obviously different compared to normal use. From the bedrock mob vote server: The player would have at least claimed the cape and potentially walked into some block position triggers on the way to the vote levers. From the website and Java launcher: The browser would have at least loaded all the images and the browser headers need to make sense. And of course, thousands of API usages coming from the same IP when only 1 or few is expected can add to the obviousness. That would be why they say it didn't impact the results.

    @nanopi@nanopi6 ай бұрын
    • @@IDrankALavaLamp IP address spoofing can't complete a 3-way handshake in TCP.

      @nanopi@nanopi6 ай бұрын
    • Nope, everything is bittable, for the ip they just use proxys, and no cant detect those kind of botting anyway and hcaptcha can be solved by getting the cookie thats all

      @wouf_@wouf_6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@wouf_ Captchas require a unique token on each request; you can't just reuse the same token every time. Otherwise they'd be pointless. But this is beside the point as no captcha was required to vote anyway.

      @GrantGryczan@GrantGryczan6 ай бұрын
    • @@GrantGryczan yes ,?? Gamepass account are à thing, there is tool to générate as much mc account as you want

      @wouf_@wouf_6 ай бұрын
    • @@wouf_ All the IPs from those would likely already be in a big list of suspicious IPs.

      @nanopi@nanopi6 ай бұрын
  • I haven't watched the video yet, but as someone from Poland, I can tell you that in the polls our big youtubers made, the armadillo was the one with most votes, just looking at the start, it seems like you'll be talking about US centred stuff

    @Zephyr_Chmura@Zephyr_Chmura6 ай бұрын
  • I saw memes about how mojang should just add all 3 mobs(seen in places outside the minecraft bubble). and I believe that there seemed to be some agreement that all mobs where good which got some more people to vote 1. because they where reminded of the mob vote (which many who don't consume minecraft content don't get) 2. because they would feel more like they could make a difference in case of a close call.

    @supesonictuna7541@supesonictuna75416 ай бұрын
  • I think it's also important to realize population skew in Community polls. A large portion of the polls (especially as documented in this video) were done on the platform previously known as Twitter. Twitter user demographics could be substantially different from average Minecraft demographics and thus skew the polls. A general theory goes that since Twitter caters more towards adults (not specifically excluding teens but definitely not the key demographic), a large portion of votes would be utility skewed. Older players would see the utility of the crab claw as more valuable than Wolf Armor (niche use in adventuring and combat, made less necessary as player skill increases), and also more valuable than whatever speed a penguin may give boats (especially given their tendencies to be found closer to icy oceans which are notoriously bad to travel with boats). Again just a theory but something to consider when looking at this purely statistically.

    @Kroutonz1585@Kroutonz15856 ай бұрын
    • you're assuming a majority of people make decisions logically

      @catfan913@catfan9136 ай бұрын
    • 1 block reach is totally more useful than making dogs viable in-game 🤡

      @ARandomEliatrope@ARandomEliatrope6 ай бұрын
    • ​@ARandomEliatrope lava:(no really it is one of the most common death reasons for these little shits)

      @blacklight683@blacklight6836 ай бұрын
    • Children = less logical Adults = more logical doesn't really work when you have a children's game with 300 million accounts and 5 million votes nobody has any kind of idea about the voting demographic especially since you could vote from the launcher also people make emotional decisions when it comes to unimportant stuff like this

      @skeptic_lemon@skeptic_lemon6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@ARandomEliatropedogs still aren't going to be viable 🤡

      @GigaDarkness@GigaDarkness6 ай бұрын
  • Here in Brazil, All voting polls had the armadillo winning, I didn't even know people wanted the crab😮

    @alle8581@alle85816 ай бұрын
    • Crab fans seethe at the thought of another mob winning😂

      @g3tgnomed370@g3tgnomed3706 ай бұрын
    • Texas and Australian people too.

      @meepmeep2706@meepmeep27066 ай бұрын
    • Sou brasileiro e eu queria o carangueijo.

      @RaphielShiraha64@RaphielShiraha646 ай бұрын
    • Eu vi algumas dessas postagens com o Penguin ganhando e o tatu no segundo lugar, então achei que a disputa iria ser entre os dois :V

      @I_am_in_your_castle@I_am_in_your_castle6 ай бұрын
    • I'm from the US and I also wanted the Armadillo, even forgetting wolf armor I just like them. =^)

      @pixerpinecone@pixerpinecone6 ай бұрын
  • I was an armadillo voter, I never used twitter except when was needed. I never participated in those polls.

    @SlendyMusicProductionsSMP@SlendyMusicProductionsSMP5 ай бұрын
  • did you re use background footage from your last video lol

    @sauleline@sauleline6 ай бұрын
  • I think going by polls is a bit inaccurate, since those polls were only polling a specific portion of the playerbase. Polls with more casual players leaned far towards the Armadillo, as a poll on Eyecraft MCs channel showed

    @golem778@golem7786 ай бұрын
    • There were many polls like that

      @4nowand4ever89@4nowand4ever896 ай бұрын
    • I voted armadillo because xenarthrans are really fucking cool and are super underrepresented in games. Plenty of games have crabs or penguins, not many have sloths, anteaters, or armadillos.

      @HeavyTF2real@HeavyTF2real6 ай бұрын
    • Almost every poll showed the crab being on top

      @marijnisn00b@marijnisn00b6 ай бұрын
    • @@HeavyTF2real I know, it looks like a lot of people here are saying things like "ah it must be because of children / people outside the US / wolf armor", but man I just like Armadillos.

      @pixerpinecone@pixerpinecone6 ай бұрын
    • @@HeavyTF2realI respect all voters, safe a few exceptions: 1) Glow squid voters who voted because Dream told them to. 2) Allay voters who voted because they thought they would duplicate items. 3) Armadillo voters who voted PURELY for wolf armour and its protection. (This does not apply if you like the idea of wolf armour, or think that your wolf would look better with it.) 4) People who are sore winners/losers about their vote are toxic about it. 5) That one group of rascal voters who said that they would gift you netherite blocks. People who vote for the aesthetic are better than most, so I have to give to give you respect for that. (A GW2 fan to a TF2 fan.)

      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast@TwilightChomperEnthusiast6 ай бұрын
  • I think something else potentially relevant is all the polls you showed were in english. As you mentioned, Chinese players were able to vote this year. And its possible that specific mobs might be more or less popular in regions where they are familiar. Thus the english polls might not be representative of non-english speaking opinion.

    @edie5879@edie58796 ай бұрын
    • Yeah. If social media says so it doesn't mean the real players choose it. Lots of my friend who didn't even buy Minecraft took the votes in many of their social account and talk about it.

      @zikya1107@zikya11076 ай бұрын
    • there are also chinese polls showed the winner is crab

      @zht-te5tn@zht-te5tn6 ай бұрын
    • Ikr. All the polls i saw in portuguese for the mob vote were saying the armadillo would win

      @Zaqueu_Neves@Zaqueu_Neves6 ай бұрын
    • There's no way they actually counted chinese votes. If they did, the total should have gone up by as much as 15 million, not 1.5million. China has *HALF A BILLION* more people than North America and South America combined.

      @potatosordfighter666@potatosordfighter6666 ай бұрын
  • I gave up on the community picking an actually good mob a long time ago, the moment I saw the armadillo I knew it had won because it was the least useful option.

    @barbfromwiisports1165@barbfromwiisports11652 ай бұрын
  • 2:17 Well, the thing is, people don't usually expect there will be a random people so obsessed with something so minor that they would spend time hacking it. It was meant to be a simpler system, with less nuissance for people voting, but it just happens that it makes it less of a nuissance for people trying to rig it, and that's why we can't have nice things and life is wasted through hours upon hours of bureaucracy.

    @MultiSenhor@MultiSenhor6 ай бұрын
  • My best guess was that armadillo voters were just the silent majority and that the botted votes didn’t effect the final outcome if at all.

    @merlehexum3932@merlehexum39326 ай бұрын
    • Even if it was botted by 1million in each mob then armadillo would of still won anyways

      @theminerooms@theminerooms6 ай бұрын
    • Big cap.

      @ToxicMothBoi@ToxicMothBoi6 ай бұрын
    • Good point, but i like to think its botted

      @Mr_Roomba_@Mr_Roomba_6 ай бұрын
    • Genius

      @bidule3988@bidule39886 ай бұрын
    • ​@@Mr_Roomba_ Why like though?

      @lckyminer_2256@lckyminer_22566 ай бұрын
  • There may have been bots, but I think only about half the pre-vote polls had the crab winning. It may depend on what group you’re in but about half the polls I saw had the armadillo winning. More importantly during Minecraft live, watch the scrolling chat had more armadillo than crab in between #stopthevote. More importantly you can change your vote, which implies that all of those requests could have just been changing a single vote to the armadillo 3 million times.

    @639propel@639propel6 ай бұрын
    • Well I didn't like crab, not Minecraft-y

      @no_the_other_ariksquad@no_the_other_ariksquad6 ай бұрын
    • how@@no_the_other_ariksquad

      @narc2.036@narc2.0366 ай бұрын
    • ​@@no_the_other_ariksquadhow

      @VveeImuri@VveeImuri6 ай бұрын
    • I wanted penguin honestly, I know it was the least useful but ever since I started playing minecraft in 1.8 I have wanted penguins to be added.

      @waddleburr8048@waddleburr80486 ай бұрын
    • nor was the armdillo your lucky the update is a good unminecrafty update@@no_the_other_ariksquad

      @catsdogswoof3968@catsdogswoof39686 ай бұрын
  • I voted in game event of Minecraft Bedrcok Edition, and most I see they voted is Armadillo, so its not surprising it won also it can be more use for addons in bedrock, you can make an outfits for your dogs with help of addon makers

    @metarustic03@metarustic036 ай бұрын
  • I think all three, or at least the crab and armadillo should be added. But I favored the armadillo over most. It could just be that I’m one of few that uses dogs for protection and/or combat and would find dog armor so useful, but I honestly wanted it before I knew what it could be used for

    @SulphuricPotatoe@SulphuricPotatoe6 ай бұрын
  • I think if it was botted, mojang may of estimated the number of bot votes and ended up just underestimating how many of the armadillos votes were fake. I think a redo with the exploit fixed is in order if they find anything suspicious.

    @randomname392@randomname3926 ай бұрын
    • Even (especially) the DreamMobVote should have been recast

      @swizzamane8775@swizzamane87756 ай бұрын
    • *IF* they find anything.

      @zenphir9051@zenphir90516 ай бұрын
    • zenphir9051 it HAS, hence this very video about it. EVEN a Minecraft Developer ACKNOWLEDGED it. And you have the audacity to CLAIM "IF" 😂😂😂

      @swizzamane8775@swizzamane87756 ай бұрын
    • @@swizzamane8775 just because there is a chance it was rigged, doesn’t mean it actually was rigged.

      @anakinlowground5515@anakinlowground55156 ай бұрын
    • anakinground5515 It IS rigged. A Developer ACKNOWLEDGES it was (despite "assurances" its "fine"). So, YES, it IS RIGGED. Some people are just blissfully ignorant of the blatantly obvious though 🤣🤣🤣

      @swizzamane8775@swizzamane87756 ай бұрын
  • I’ve seen several polls where the armadillo won on KZhead. I’m not confident, but there is a solid chance it would have won legitimately even with bots

    @minecrafter3448@minecrafter34486 ай бұрын
    • im sure it did wolf armor is legendary

      @yu21s@yu21s6 ай бұрын
    • For me it was always between the crab and the armadillo, like a 50/50 chance for either of them. Idk I think maybe the armadillo was popular in china or something, as I wasn’t expecting a difference higher than 10%.

      @rustyshackleford234@rustyshackleford2346 ай бұрын
    • it sure is@@rustyshackleford234

      @yu21s@yu21s6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@yu21ssome poeples like you with a profile picture like that literally said it ALL

      @pamfilipinas9102@pamfilipinas91026 ай бұрын
    • @@pamfilipinas9102 *people

      @kodachromic@kodachromic6 ай бұрын
  • Saw your video on Bilibili, just here to show support

    @puyuanzhang9069@puyuanzhang90696 ай бұрын
  • So are we not gonna get the armadillo? :( they're one of my fav animals

    @Princess0fTwilight83@Princess0fTwilight836 ай бұрын
  • As with all online events there is always botting. But it is likely a combination of all factors mentioned botting, Minecraft China, and children with no internet access. I believe that if Mojang released a heat map of the mob vote we would see crab votes being evenly distributed across areas with voting and armadillo votes clustered around population centers. The crab likely always won on the regional level but there were more armadillo votes in total.

    @starleigh6680@starleigh66806 ай бұрын
    • Star??? Is that you??? Is this a super big coiincidence?

      @MiyuwiTV@MiyuwiTV6 ай бұрын
    • nice pfp

      @RichConnerGMN@RichConnerGMN6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@RichConnerGMNgoofy ahh pfp

      @iBuyKetamine@iBuyKetamine6 ай бұрын
    • now if only we could apply mob voting rules to real life politician voting

      @FantasmaNaranja@FantasmaNaranja6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@iBuyKetaminesays you

      @sewerboio_0@sewerboio_06 ай бұрын
  • As a programmer I'm almost sure that they have some kind of authorization before counting the vote. Theoretically you can send as many votes as you want using different tokens but after all they must have been send using some account so after all, all the votes will be lost since one account can have only one vote. It will be strange if such a big company didn't have such protection

    @fkjaha@fkjaha6 ай бұрын
    • No because mojang specifically made it so you don't need an account to vote this year.

      @godsunit@godsunit6 ай бұрын
    • Also, you have no idea HOW bad their security it. This is like the least of their worries.

      @godsunit@godsunit6 ай бұрын
    • never trust big companies in being competent

      @MentaalAchtergesteld@MentaalAchtergesteld6 ай бұрын
    • ​​​@@MentaalAchtergesteldthere are a lot of competent programers there, but sure they can made an upsie

      @neociber24@neociber246 ай бұрын
    • As you said, each token should be able to uniquely identify an user, you can't just generate an auth token and being unable to determine the user, for me is hard to believe they don't have that.

      @neociber24@neociber246 ай бұрын
  • Wow, some people think that everyone in the world sees those KZhead polls

    @Smitty_onYT@Smitty_onYT6 ай бұрын
  • I don't trust the guys who take a year to add 3 reskins of a block and half a feature (that will continue to be developed for the next 3 - 5 updates) to be mentally capable of identifiying the botted votes. That is assuming they even care for the community at this point.

    @SergioPSC@SergioPSC6 ай бұрын
  • I remember one person in the comment section had the much better idea of making the mob vote a Community Idea Vote where Mojang picked their favorites and then players voted for which they liked. Or it could work like the suggestion forms where the most popular suggestion would of a theme within a span of say a month gets added

    @seandorama5932@seandorama59326 ай бұрын
    • That's a good idea, I mean they have a whole ass feedback website.

      @goshdarnchicken@goshdarnchicken6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@goshdarnchickenyeah it would also make it used more 😊

      @Lumberjack_king@Lumberjack_king6 ай бұрын
  • I really hope that Determinated takes the time to learn how to properly disclose and report security vulnerabilities. The fact that they found this vulnerability, but rather than reporting it, created an exploit (which was then leaked and allegedly used to rig the vote) indicates that they are in serious need of some security training.

    @miguelguthridge@miguelguthridge6 ай бұрын
    • No they do not need any security training.

      @newlineschannel@newlineschannel6 ай бұрын
    • I think he probably just didn't give a shit lmao

      @evdestroy5304@evdestroy53046 ай бұрын
    • i dont think they want to be a white hat hacker imo, otherwise they WOULD have reported it

      @jayyh_01@jayyh_016 ай бұрын
    • kzhead.info/sun/fNyOfqqJpmKVaaM/bejne.htmlsi=mP3tDPPfKJpkQPjH

      @BryanHC08@BryanHC086 ай бұрын
    • Their oversight is not his responsibility.

      @jakezepeda1267@jakezepeda12676 ай бұрын
  • As a developer myself, I assume that they can probably view a history of the Auth tokens (MCToken), which are coupled to the Xbox account. When they see that the Xbox account field is empty or very recently created they can invalidate the vote. Note that I am not saying with 100% certainty that this is how they did it, but it is likely very similar. It could be that they are still looking into it, because development/patches take time. But if a Minecraft employee publicly states that it is solved, i’d believe them, since the invalidation process could be quite easy.

    @RikThePixel@RikThePixel6 ай бұрын
  • If the vote wasn't botted, then the only explanation is that a bunch of little Timmys saw "dog armor" and immediately voted 💀

    @TotPocket@TotPocket6 ай бұрын
    • Armadura >> caranguejo pinguin + fans

      @gabrielvicentedias3577@gabrielvicentedias35776 ай бұрын
  • the china detail is important, a huge playerbase that doesn't have access to youtube or twitter, also something tells me you didn't consider other regions for the fan polls other than western/usa. doubt something like this would fly in mojang

    @GDNashit@GDNashit6 ай бұрын
  • I think the suprise win is due to other countries, and i did see some large community poles with the armadillo winning. Also are large chunk of the poles shown at the beginning are from channels who appeal to more technical players or builders giving a bias to the crab. Also some of them were on twitter and that platform is a walking corpse.

    @Noah-io7es@Noah-io7es6 ай бұрын
    • Agreed. The polls put out were seen and voted on by (mostly) the people following the channel, who are most likely to like the same things due to the fact they are following them.

      @Pickle236@Pickle2366 ай бұрын
    • When will they make the forgotten mobs update?

      @landongreen7510@landongreen75106 ай бұрын
    • Yeah most of the polls I saw had armadillo winning by around 10-15%

      @ndrdko@ndrdko6 ай бұрын
  • I don’t think I ever saw a poll before hand where the crab won personally.

    @Oslith@Oslith6 ай бұрын
  • I couldn't even vote voting was broken foe me atleast on the day of the showcase thing

    @tian4037@tian40376 ай бұрын
  • Can't wait for Mojang to do nothing about this 🔥🔥🔥

    @Hustlers.Rise.@Hustlers.Rise.6 ай бұрын
    • True 🔥🔥🔥

      @mask_of_moon@mask_of_moon6 ай бұрын
    • Remember the 2020 mob vote? Yeah they did nothing then like the true Gs they are 🔥🔥🔥

      @rustyshackleford234@rustyshackleford2346 ай бұрын
    • Do another QC cryout ;)

      @swizzamane8775@swizzamane87756 ай бұрын
    • @@swizzamane8775 Oh nyo, anyway

      @mask_of_moon@mask_of_moon6 ай бұрын
    • @@mask_of_moon QC stayed... j/s.... if y'all replicated that... again... j/s

      @swizzamane8775@swizzamane87756 ай бұрын
  • Really like the idea of a mid week video additionally, love it!

    @kazamimamii@kazamimamii6 ай бұрын
  • the mob vote is like a massive pit of fire and anger

    @BuddyAnimated@BuddyAnimated6 ай бұрын
  • I voted the armadillo and all of my friends did too. Is it really so hard to believe that not everybody uses Twitter?

    @lilyofluck371@lilyofluck3716 ай бұрын
  • The fact some people will go far to bot a mob vote event makes me more concerned once Mojang will make another one

    @jetrosison375@jetrosison3756 ай бұрын
    • They did NOTHING for the Dream mob vote scandal

      @swizzamane8775@swizzamane87756 ай бұрын
  • I like how in depth you went with the code. 5 years ago, I would have thought all that was made up, but after getting a CS degree I can actually understand

    @youthought878@youthought8786 ай бұрын
    • As someone finishing their CS degree this year, I also enjoyed that detailed breakdown of what the botters did!

      @comradetab9291@comradetab92916 ай бұрын
    • @@comradetab9291 agreed bro. Would have never thought I’d know the slightest thin rn on how to code but college really worked. Ofc I’m no master but I have the fundamentals down

      @youthought878@youthought8786 ай бұрын
  • Frenchie here! I've never really appreciated Minecraft's Mob Vote, ever since the first edition. They've got the means, the teams, the PCs, the software and the knowledge to make it work, and instead, they want to smash the community with difficult, probably biased, influenced or botted votes. Do I take the liberty of integrating their new version of the EULA, which further destroys the community aspect? I'm sick for my Minecraft, I'm very sad and very afraid of how it's going to turn out.

    @pokameni@pokameni6 ай бұрын
  • I don't think so I seen some popular community votes have armadillo on top ( even on wattles )

    @justadragonnamemarcus1751@justadragonnamemarcus17516 ай бұрын
  • There was definitely something going on with servers. I had to cast my vote 4 times until it registered

    @Yorick257@Yorick2576 ай бұрын
    • That was everyone. The votes didn't lock in immediately. Literally everyone was allowed to change their vote multiple times. In both Java and Bedrock. So inside and outside the server.

      @wickywickyjoka@wickywickyjoka6 ай бұрын
  • Every poll i saw had the Armadillo winning by roughly 10%. Great content, and you defo make some interesting and vaild points 👍

    @smellyquimm@smellyquimm6 ай бұрын
    • Yep, including one with over 200,000 people

      @HungryWarden@HungryWarden6 ай бұрын
  • in many surveys of important content creators in the latin region, the crab also used to win

    @AshHardy23@AshHardy236 ай бұрын
  • To be fair, I didn’t even know about these online polls but still voted for the armadillo. Maybe a lot of the voters just didn’t want to vote in polls that didn’t matter? Still a very interesting video.

    @mystblox2275@mystblox22756 ай бұрын
  • I simply believe that microsoft/mojang already knows what they are going to add, and make their own choice win regardless of the actual votes

    @JoshwaLaw@JoshwaLaw6 ай бұрын
    • That’s an interesting thought.

      @Itsmekeurus@Itsmekeurus6 ай бұрын
    • Probably not because of what happens with the glow squid with dream

      @Cyborg2457@Cyborg24576 ай бұрын
    • @@Cyborg2457if we’re going along with this theory, it’s entirely possible that they weren’t good enough to design bots considering how long it takes to make a mid update over at Mojang.

      @HungryWarden@HungryWarden6 ай бұрын
  • Just want to say in spite of potential botting, it's also good to remember that many players, like myself, do not engage with content creators polls ahead of time, and only vote on the event (because the other polls have no point)

    @_plume2926@_plume29266 ай бұрын
  • It’s almost like there’s players that don’t use Twitter but still follow the community and updates 🤯 crazy theory tho bots are wayyy more likely than that

    @Jaggerrrr@Jaggerrrr6 ай бұрын
  • I think I the mob vote should change to witch one should be added first and not put off the other two

    @raregamingshorts@raregamingshorts3 ай бұрын
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