Explaining Competitive Pokemon's Greatest Game of All Time

Although it is called Tele and is based on a "light" Pokémon that is Tapu Lele (Psychic/Fairy). He (Tele) really deserved to lose because he was too arrogant, rude, vain, annoying for no reason, somewhat hypocritical, selfish, narcissistic and self-centered.

Deserved

undeserved

How good was ABR actually?

@@ChocolateSoda1 he's extremely smart across many tiers, i see him around adv community, he always knows what he's talking about when it comes to mons. I don't know about his competitive skill but his skill on paper is clear just from seeing him talk about mons

such a fucking raw line, abr is my new hero

based abr

Honestly one of the coldest lines I've ever heard And it came from a Showdown match ☠️

Ash Ketchum moment

"We will not accept less than a full victory."

And I honestly believe it. I’m afraid of him

5:25

It was true as he went on to show. And the length makes sense. Every time ABR attempted to make headway to winning, there was a risk that Tele guesses right and gets a big advantage. So the more time ABR put between such attempts, the less likely Tele was to predict it (and more likely to waste PP on failed predictions) and the more likely ABR was to win. ABR probably could have won a lot earlier if he went for it, but that would also increase his chances to lose.

@@88porpoiseplus with what I’ve seen from ABR in his other games he generally plays long safe games

Man was determined.

Followed by tele commenting "the battle drew so much interest because of the fact that one of the players, himself, is in fact one of the best players of this generation, and will be forever considered as such"; then followed by ABR becoming the best player in Smogon's history, and tele getting banned for being toxic.

@@Tomix4k i can’t imagine being so self absorbed to describe yourself as such what the hell lmao

@@EsquireNapalm nothing wrong with it when it's true

@@AyenLogic it wasnt true

@@AyenLogic bro lied💀

Lol

Sad truth...

Lol same

How many turns DOES your ELO rating have though?

@@ijpete98 999

Tele malded and coped so hard

Ctc still better

this

@@gunkygod4031 you know ball

Then he had to fuck with sleep clause for no reason

Ayo what 🤨

Most appropriate pun EVER!

@@zchaosemperor81 Better get that PP Up.

yeah, it was very cool seeing ABR draining Tele's pp

You've one the internet.

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Wow so funny

*I confirm that OP nearly died laughing.*

@@ActuallyDeath yes I see his tombstone too

@@annettenebiolo6962 *With **_that_** profile picture you have there, I don't really think you can comment on **_us_** being cringe.*

It was in everyone's best intrest for ABR to force stealth rock's since as already established zapdos can't do anything to clebable due to the whole needing it's pp to kill skarmory thing. Unless that was actually part of his plan and it never came to fruition due to a lucky freeze on zapdos.

ABR : it wasn't about winning anymore, it was about sending a message!

That bit was clearly a joke tho

If Tele really thought it was BM then he must have thought that a win for ABR was inevitable, so Tele should have just resigned in that case.

The man brought stall and he's the one to complain about the turn counter lol

They have to submit replays, the mods don't *need* to be there at all times.

it was 8 hours pretty sure . That is what i heard was the length of the game. Since u heard tele complaining he needed to go somewhere

An hour is an understatement.

It wasn't just "1 hour" lmao

An hour? Lol

stall players complaining about games taking too long is so funny to me like it's your fault?? If you want games to end don't play stall

I played a defensive mega scissor team with ditto vs a heavy stall once that lasted until my ditto PP stalled a victory and took about 400 turns. I did not enjoy.

nah bro, ditto teams fucking suck

"My brother in christ, you made the team"

Definition of “well well well. If it isn’t the consequences of my own actions.”

lol I think I remember hearing about that. Wasn't that deck carried in in like a 6 foot+ long case or something?

@@gsgaming6976 the deck itself contained 2222 cards with mostly search to waste as much time as possible when they needed to shuffle, it took 2 people to carry it, though you could fit it on 3 shoulders (4 if you packed it in.) the deck itself played 1-2 rounds before they were asked to drop out due to how unmanageable the deck was.

@@megasora4 Yeah, I saw a video on it. It was really funny. I was mostly concerned with how long the thing was laid out end to end. I'm probably misremembering, but in my mind's eye it was like, as tall as a person or more when laid out end to end.

That's why in magic the rule used to be deck can be as big as you want as long as you can properly shuffle without assistance.

IIRC, the guys who did that were judges themselves and were essentially trolling and/or testing the limits of the rules.

That was indeed hilarious

I use it....

do u have a link to that?

Link?

Or the guy who brought a Mega Charizard Y plushie to a competitive event only to use Mega Charizard X

"Did i say that?" - also Sun Tzu

Wait that is an actual Sun tzu quote lol

"I shitted my pants" - Sun Tzu... probably

"And Soldier is the best at fights and also very cool." - Sun Zoo

@@annettenebiolo6962 I don’t think it’s a kid

Ikr that line took me out of an already great video and I wanted to appreciate it.

I mean that’s definitely true, but if a person consistently cusses others out for losing at Pokémon, it’s probably indicative of their character lol

@@Bluerock121 Weeeeellll....

@@Bluerock121 true but I’m a believer in growth 🔥

Hitler and Jack the Ripper shouldn't be defined by their worst moments, then.

Doubles are not only faster paced, but require more strategy. It works out perfectly for official Pokémon tournaments

@@rouvoby1223 only half of that is true

@@rouvoby1223 they dont. They require different kinds of strategy.

​@@panwp123 more strategy is definitely a valid thing to say when you have double the pokemon and exponentially more strats to consider as a result

@@diablotry5154 you dont have double the pokemons. You have double the pokemons ON THE FIELD. Over the course of a game you can even say to have less pokemon, with only 4 per team. Which is different. That distinction is inportant. There surely are tons of strategies that can be only employed in that format, no doubt. But there are also tons of strategies that can be only deployed in 6v6 singles. The entire concept of hazard control for example, a giant part of the game is just gone in VGC. The idea of a stall team is just unviable in vgc, yet thrives in 6v6 singles to the point that you can build team dealing almost exclusively passive damage.

I died laughing when he said tele got perma banned and hasn’t been heard from since

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If you don't mind more in depth analyses, BKC has some really good videos on big battles

Yeah.

Moxie Garchomp sweeps 11 Pokémon Assist V create shenanigans

Would love to see a vid like it on the famous pachirisu game too

I would actually subscribe for more of those, I'm only subbed to freezai Live lol

it’s worse than that; at least in chess, endgames that can be converted by humans don’t last that long. For cases that aren’t as clear cut, the 50-move rule (which was added to pokemon in some way after this painful game), threefold repetition, and time controls will eventually force things. This feels like that mate in 549 moves found with the 7-piece tablebase, except it’s not gibberish to humans and is actually playable. And someone decided to play it out in full in a tournament game, with time controls that don’t drop increment entirely.

@@TheOneWhoHasABadName what's the 50 move rule

@@airam1721 if 50 moves have passed without any piece capture or pawn moved, the game is drawn

The big difference is that in chess you have a static team, here you have a million.

@@Paulo27 the resulting endgame is not static (board position also matters a lot) for pawnless complex endgames, the best way to attack or defend is not often clear. even for simple endgames like king and queen vs king and rook, novice players may find the winning method unintuitive

the world will forget europe doThe idea of fighting nazi was "if we defeat Axis, who do both genocide on Africa and colonize the world, the world will forget that europe Ally also do the same as well

Why? Is abr some kinda bad dude as well?

@@joaquimrietveld8297 Apparently he also trash talks a bunch, just to a lesser extent.

@@pooppooper9033 tbh what Smogon player isn't a trash talking asshole? lol.

Strange, I read elsewhere in this vid that abr became the top smogon player while tele got banned for being toxic.

RIght? Poetic justice doesn't even begin to cover it.

Modern ozymandias

Surprised he didn’t talk about how humble he is

and his Team loses to Clefairy.

with balance no less. you'd expect that in stall v stall

I personaly think that just makes him a really boring player😂

@@nept5281 splash splash your opinion is trash ABR 👑

As a non competitive player, i think it's even more impressive that he didn't lose a single one even after his garchomp was poisoned

@@nept5281 You still don't understand the beauty of it after watching this video huh smh

In that case, the 2000 card deck was entirely intentional to showcase the need for such a rule, iirc. Whilst here, it was rather more a result of people doing what they felt they had to do to win, and the limitations of the game being shown as a result.

actually the intent of the 2222 card deck was to waste as much time as possible during the shuffling (hence it being mostly search cards.) it just happened to do more good as a result by forcing them to make a cap on how many cards you can run.

@@megasora4 no the main goal was to cause the rule to be put in place, the duo were official judges of the game who wanted a rule set in place

@@acevardon3094 Every source i can find on the 2222 card deck supports my claim and even the owner of the decks twitter claimed their goal was to "waste as much time as possible." you are right that both were judges, but they did not enter the tournament with a goal other then some friendly trolling, wich they only played 2 games before being asked to back out. in the end, what matters is the end result as without the change to the rules, their just guys who brought a large and annoying deck.

Similar issues plague the Smash Bros series. Viewers demand fast-paced, combo-heavy matches and LOATHE defensive strategies, but these defensive strategies are extremely powerful and will take over the meta given the chance. This is why so many stages get banned (large stages allow Fox and Sonic to run away, any any stage with hazards allows one player to camp and fish for grabs) and why Brawl took such a beating from the Melee fans (Meta Knight can camp in the air spamming down-airs or Tornado waiting for his opponent to trip)

Same, my fav mon for sure

Fellow Slowbro fan

unless you have 2 regenerators as he also showed in the vid

Yeah hazards r such an important mechanic and so useful especially against moms that r weak to it

Every there's literally mechanics that negate entry hazards, so really they're just annoying for most players

This. Sticky web 🕸 stealth rock 🪨 spikes toxic spikes. I've sacrificed half my team a few times to set hazards and bank on a blitzing glass cannon.

Which is why I hate magic bouncers on randbats

the power of regenerator

A showdown server?!

@@decodedbunny101 yeah pretty sure there is a smogon server. It's a lot less fun than it sounds though from my experience.

the whole thing?!

@@sapnupua5 Whole thing

@@decodedbunny101 It was in a private call with a friend. WE followed Smogon Tours

You got any idea where I could see that?

link?

Got the link saved on my old laptop which bricked a few months ago 🥲 it only exists in memory now

​@@awesomalityness rip, my guy For both; the link and the laptop

Imagine not using your Mega for 1300 moves till you had the board set for the Slowsweep

Sounds like a Hentai.

ayo

He said that in such a weird way I can't believe was an accident

4:50 "as long as pp is consumed there is some progress being made"

At my age every battle is a battle to drain my PP

How many hours did the battle take?

What's means wincons?

@@asterlofts1565 On stall, that means having a setup sweeper behind to win through a soften team. In this case the obvious choice would be calm mind M-Latias.

@@asterlofts1565It is short term for a win condition. If thy condition is met, they are gonna win.

@@rajvirratia6703 I remember it being close to 7 hours. I could be off though

Absolutely. SOMALIA jellicent meltdown, anyone?

Energy ball for the win

Unfortunate does not begin to describe

We need competitive historians in general, man.

Yes eventhough this one is a very special case it also allows unexperienced players an insight into the mindset CP players use aside from "Hit super effective move"

3:55

Truly the "State and Revolution" of our era.

Ahahahahaha my condolences

The price for playing Pure Stall: mirror matches that last 6 hours and are hell to play, either resulting in a tie or a victory/loss depending on who has better PP management. Let this be a lesson to not play Pure Stall if you don't like overly long games that are over twice as long as a feature film, because unless your opponent also doesn't have the patience for the mirror match and is willing to tie with you, you will suffer until turn 978. Or you could just go next, forfeit, and hope you don't match into another Stall player again. Or you could just not play Pure Stall, and play Balance instead. Or Doubles.

But sleep is banned?

@@XxDannySniperZXxGOB there was once a time where it was not

@@XxDannySniperZXxGOB Wait Sleep is _completely_ banned? Is that just a Gen 5 UU thing???

There is a ton of Netbattle, Shoddy Battle, and Pokemon Online history (older battle sims) that is entirely lost. 😪

Check out BKC’s channel he has a lot of that content there, just did one on one of the biggest cheating scandals in tournament history

If you want more analysis on greatest game in pokemon showdown I recommend you BKC,he makes great analysis on older games

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Muting your opponent so they can't get in your head is the type of behavior you see from victims of abuse. "I am weak and cannot engage socially in case someone hurts me" is a state we should not will anyone toward.

@@jkid1134 Dude, you just heavily implied that victims of abuse are categorically weak. That's far more problematic than the idea of not wanting to chat with random strangers.

@@driftwisp2797 Oh! Well, I sure didn't mean to. I meant to imply that this is a mindset that victims of abuse often fall into, not that it accurately reflects the nature of abuse or even power, and furthermore that it is an unhealthy state of mind. I can see the confusion, but trust me, I don't think less of someone for having suffered.

@@jkid1134 Muting your opponent so they cannot get into your head is a perfectly valid strategy. It isn't about weakness or strength. If you can't play mind games through the medium of the game itself, then you're not really playing mind games, you're just throwing insults in the hope of distracting your opponent.

I love saying gg before the game actually ends

istg?

@@rishabhanand4973 I swear to god

@@Chriscraft-ug3sz thanks

Touch grass.

@@lornemalvo4492 you too buddy

Drinking milk lmao

I don't think ABR is a troll.

It's reminiscent of ancient swordplay, two sides each cutting, feinting, positioning, each one jockeying around the other to make that one decisive cut that ends it all.

@@bongosmcdongos4190 Heck, modern fencing. It's pretty much just waiting for the other opponent to make a mistake and taking advantage of it. So usually no one makes the first move

ABR wasn't a troll, he played the game the way that Tele wanted to play so badly and read him throughout the entire match like a book, which took like 7 hours to finish lmao

Greatest Pokemon battle happens in episode 4 of the anime: Metapod vs. Metapod.

Omg🤣🤣🤣🤣

holy shit that was legendary

that was ctc bro

I love how that's still a big meme. XD

Or an analysis of the legendary zen mode darm 6-0

It's so exhausting to do but feels sooo good when you finally get the win. Most i got to was almost 300 turns just to finally predict a stone edge on an incoming Mandibuzz. stubborn mf like me will gladly switch all day against stall 😌

If they hate the game going so long they shouldn't play stall teams honestly.

@@bestaround3323 It's only the stall players who are playing stall to get their opponents to forfeit who are like that. They don't enjoy stalling itself as a strategy, they enjoy the feeling of making their opponent miserable, which is why they fall apart the second someone who knows how to pick apart their particular variety of stall comes along.

@@thewanderingmistnull2451 Yeah, they really shouldn't be playing stall then. If you don't have the sense to either forfeit if you know you probably won't win, or enjoy the struggle of clawing each and every power point to try and snatch victory, then you should play stall. As if an opponent can pick you apart to win, then they deserve some respect for their determination.

Sick roast. Man's a savage

Y, como fue?

Tell us I'm seated

Ready my man

Please, supply us with the story-milk fresh from the udder of your brain cow.

You can't just say "let me know if you want to hear the story" and then just not tell the story

funbro go brrr

I thought that was another battle involving stalling, healing the opponent with Heal Pulse, and assuring you'd never run out of PP with Leppa Berry and Recycle/Harvest/etc. Where the battle could literally never end without making severe misplays.

@@TheGuyWhoIsSitting and you're totally right, they're just two different battles

thats not a battle that set was common knowledge for a long time

@@TheGuyWhoIsSitting thats exactly what funbro set is

this match was truly a moment ever

Tactics were made, switches existed and most importantly, both players played.

Pokemon were involved in the battle

This definitely was one of the games of all time

Truly the battle of all time, my favorite part was when clefable said "its clefabling time" and then proceeded to clefable on the opponent's faces.

Agreed. I think I'll forever be a regular watcher now.

Seriously that was the most respectful thing I've heard in a long time from anyone. Legend

Freezai a very nice person indeed

Ikr

Wasn't it called shuffle impossible? Because there was an disproportionate amount of shuffle cards?

@@michaelx8486 It was!

@@michaelx8486 Specifically, "Mischen Impossible". It was a German Tournament. "Shuffle" in German is Mischen, so the name is "Mischen Impossible" like "Mission Impossible"

It was a tournament, and ABR played to win

Feed them until they bust

@@simongail8428 🤨📸

@@simongail8428 😏

@@rbexcess 🤰🏽

Yeah stall truly is cancer

Dusk Legend Ngl stall hate is omega cringe

TobyBro didn't have Teleport either.

the saying is mixed up. die as a hero or live long enough see yourself become the villain

@@imfamoushero yes, thats the point

@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 i see

That is to say, big props to singles players you guys have more stamina than I ever could

This match is a complete anomoly. Couple of hundred turns at MOST for two decently skilled players. 50-60 when someone does ok then one player chokes badly

@@RinaShinomiyaVal then as another anomaly, both players load webs HO and it's over in 10 turns LOL

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