Smarter than a Smart TV! (Raspberry Pi Inside)

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This thing isn't a TV; it's a display! It costs more than a smart TV, but it also doesn't spy on you, so that's nice.
Thanks to Sharp NEC Display Solutions of America for sending the display, speakers, stand, and Compute Module kit used in this video.
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#RaspberryPi
Mentioned in this video:
- NEC UHD Professional Display M551: www.sharpnecdisplays.us/produ...
- MPI4E Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 addon: www.sharpnecdisplays.us/produ...
- Intel Smart Display Module: www.intel.com/content/www/us/...
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- What Does the Fox Say? • Ylvis - The Fox (What ...
- Lincoln-Binns Compute Module 4 Enclosures: lincolnbinns.com/shop/interne...
Contents:
00:00 - Not a TV
01:22 - Everywhere but GameStop
02:20 - Raspberry Pi Inside
03:11 - MediaPlayer on the Pi
05:04 - RetroPie
05:32 - LibreELEC / Kodi
06:03 - Native Linux on a TV?
06:23 - Why so expensive?
07:27 - Gaming?
08:22 - Alternatives

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  • The lengths you go to buy a Raspberry Pi these days. Shucking TV's for RPi's may become a thing :).

    @PaulGrayUK@PaulGrayUK Жыл бұрын
    • Haha I was thinking of saying that, but there are a few cheaper ways-not by much, but still... I'll talk about those next week ;)

      @JeffGeerling@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
    • HAHAHAHAAA!!!!! - At least you have a cool display to tinker with after you get that CM4 you've been looking for :D

      @Nobe_Oddy@Nobe_Oddy Жыл бұрын
    • wonder if it'd work with other CM4 compatible boards like Banana Pi's new compute module

      @amirpourghoureiyan1637@amirpourghoureiyan1637 Жыл бұрын
    • But can the display play back 4K Dolby Vision video, with True HD, or DTS-HD-MA audio? My TV can, from my (RPI4) Plex server, in direct playback mode. Or from Disney Plus etc. Probably not.

      @akyhne@akyhne Жыл бұрын
    • @@JeffGeerling Good to hear! Because Pis are now 2-3x MSRP :(

      @tombyrer1808@tombyrer1808 Жыл бұрын
  • The best feature of a display like this is that it doesn't come with all the malware that TVs ship with these days.

    @hikingpete@hikingpete Жыл бұрын
    • You can build your own! :-)

      @FuzzyElf@FuzzyElf Жыл бұрын
    • Malware & spyware

      @ozordiprince9405@ozordiprince9405 Жыл бұрын
    • I'd highly recommend installing pi-hole. I installed it like 3 weeks ago. Never seen a single Ad on the Tv. But the amount of requests that get blocked is just nuts.

      @sagichdirdochnicht4653@sagichdirdochnicht4653 Жыл бұрын
    • What allot of people dont realize is that consumer TVs are actually subsidized to include this.

      @kakurerud7516@kakurerud7516 Жыл бұрын
    • @@sagichdirdochnicht4653 how install this on a smart tv?

      @Lowmandavis@Lowmandavis Жыл бұрын
  • It would be great if TV operating systems were more open along with the hardware, this has such modular setup potential. Imagine if you could wipe away 5-10 year old samsung/lg/whatever OS on older TVs and install a fresh lightweight linux option, would give them a lot more life and usefulness (or even just swap out the SoC). With big TVs like this there are lots of options for modular hardware, something like the bigger Intel NUC compute element could easily slot into one of these and be a powerhouse home theater option, hell the TV itself could be the home plex server...

    @Defiant031636@Defiant031636 Жыл бұрын
    • Samsung OS is actually one of the best. The problem with smart tv is they use garbage SoCs

      @mod4rchive@mod4rchive Жыл бұрын
    • @@mod4rchive not the new Samsung OS’s, it’s filled with ads and a very clunky ui

      @WalterMan@WalterMan Жыл бұрын
    • @@mod4rchive As someone who has a circa 2009 Samsung TV, if they're one of the best, then all the rest must be the worst garbage in town. Even when it was brand new it was slow and hyper annoying. Especially when bad signal caused it to lockup, sometimes until you pull the power cord.

      @anon_y_mousse@anon_y_mousse Жыл бұрын
    • Of of the manufacturers--I want to say TCL--was very up-front about the fact that it actually costs more these days to sell a "dumb" TV than a Smart TV, because the latter will be subsidized by the expected user data collection revenue. That is to say, these is zero incentive for anyone to make an open OS TV, as it would be even more expensive to cater to the (sadly) extremely niche audience of folks who want smart devices but care about privacy or moddability.

      @GSBarlev@GSBarlev Жыл бұрын
    • They will not allow it because you will keep using it and won't buy new TVs.

      @ArunG273@ArunG273 Жыл бұрын
  • When we were up for our last TV purchase I was blown away that there are no "dumb" TVs available anymore. It's almost like these companies are selling our usage data and greed is making their decisions for them. /s Thanks for the intro to this concept. I think this is pretty cool stuff and I like the concept of knowing what code is running on equipment that I own.

    @gannas42@gannas42 Жыл бұрын
    • Selfishly, I actually kinda like it. The prices are heavily subsidized by companies like Netflix and Amazon who pay the manufacturers for including dedicated buttons on the remotes and selling them usage data, so I get it much cheaper and then I just connect it to my HTPC and never use any of that crap (hell, I don't even connect the TV to the Internet).

      @hellterminator@hellterminator Жыл бұрын
    • Just have to make sure the TV doesn't also have an always-on microphone or camera!

      @JeffGeerling@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
    • @@JeffGeerling 1984 was a manual for some of these TVs

      @Smelly1sam@Smelly1sam Жыл бұрын
    • @@hellterminator I thought a similar approach would work well for us until the built-in "smart" software started crashing regularly. It's frustrating to have a TV that works fine as a display but keeps being kneecapped by the computer inside it. The dedicated buttons on the remote are annoying as any accidental press will exit the input it was on. It also doesn't help that those dedicated buttons take up a majority of the remote faceplate, increasing odds they will be accidentally pressed. Almost like it is intentional... Own nothing and like it? No thanks, not for me.

      @gannas42@gannas42 Жыл бұрын
    • @@gannas42 Well, that sucks. My TV doesn't crash. And I don't even use the remote - the only thing I need the TV to do is turn on and off and my HTPC handles that through CEC.

      @hellterminator@hellterminator Жыл бұрын
  • 2:20 made me lol "Not all of these displays run on a Pi" and shows BSOD. Well played.

    @RAN-os5gz@RAN-os5gz Жыл бұрын
  • We had these at my previous job, and they didn’t actually last longer than off the shelf standard consumer TVs. They basically lasted a bit past their 3 year warranty and started having backlight issues. They were run 24/7 as signage displays and had plenty of airflow around them. Meanwhile, there are several consumer model TVs that preexisted my employment there (more than 5 years ago) that are run 24/7 for the same purpose (meeting room listings, and digital signage) that are still running today

    @BenjaminSeuser@BenjaminSeuser Жыл бұрын
    • What did you work as? Sounds like an interesting job, these TV's fascinate me, so installing/troubleshooting them sounds meaningful

      @BBWahoo@BBWahoo Жыл бұрын
    • We started building our own totems from cheap LCDs, cheaper, easy to replace the monitor and the computer could be bespoke

      @BigBrother1993@BigBrother1993 Жыл бұрын
  • Just FYI: the Pi 4 can definitely play back 4K videos, but they have to be encoded in h.265/HEVC for it to work.

    @Chaphasilor@Chaphasilor Жыл бұрын
    • huh, but h.265 is more cpu intensive than h.264

      @arjix8738@arjix87387 ай бұрын
    • @@arjix8738 I believe the Pi 4 has better hardware support for decoding h265

      @Chaphasilor@Chaphasilor7 ай бұрын
    • ​@@arjix8738Not with hardware decoding it isn't.

      @Pocket-Calculator@Pocket-Calculator7 ай бұрын
    • @@Pocket-Calculator well duh, hardware decoding means that the GPU is doing the decoding

      @arjix8738@arjix87387 ай бұрын
    • @@arjix8738 The Raspberry Pi usually have specific components to decode video. That allows it to decode high resolution video and also use less power than it would it it was decoding via CPU.

      @Pocket-Calculator@Pocket-Calculator7 ай бұрын
  • 5:41 about the remote working, as it's showing in the top right of the screen it's using cec or consumer electronics control, this is a protocol to have the display communicate with the connected device (the pi) over HDMI. LibreELEC also supports this when using other PIs connected via HDMI to a TV. (or at least the pi zero I have does)

    @foxinrot@foxinrot Жыл бұрын
  • The reason that you can use your remote is its using a CEC module to talk to the Pi. is a communications protocol built into the HDMI standard allowing CEC-enabled HDMI devices to exchange information and send/receive control messages.

    @phreakygbg@phreakygbg Жыл бұрын
    • I didn't know that, it's handy to know going forward.

      @hiteck007@hiteck007 Жыл бұрын
  • One of the departure boards in stanstead airport had a big raspberry pi logo on it a couple months ago, that was funny

    @scellyyt@scellyyt Жыл бұрын
  • 2:07 I was tempted to buy one of these for like £50 from an e-waste recycler before. I would love to setup a giant touchscreen like that with Home Assistant in my home.

    @lost4468yt@lost4468yt Жыл бұрын
    • If you do this pls record uplod it to youtube

      @fahrimertdincer8421@fahrimertdincer8421 Жыл бұрын
    • I would love to get ahold of one for my d&d group table.

      @R_Forde@R_Forde Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah I've seen the older ones go for 30€ here as well.

      @crashniels@crashniels Жыл бұрын
    • I did that, giant touch screen. Used enormous amounts of power, i got rid of it.

      @Away0G@Away0G Жыл бұрын
    • @@Away0G nice. How much?

      @lost4468yt@lost4468yt Жыл бұрын
  • These NECs are also used 24/7 in manufacturing on large production lines, displaying multiple statistics to operators and supervisors, allowing them to see at a glance during their process adjustments spec readings in real time without being tied down to a workstation monitor.

    @dronepilotflyby9481@dronepilotflyby9481 Жыл бұрын
  • I scored a used Panasonic commercial display recently for $35 (42") . works great and it's a tank.

    @shotgeek@shotgeek Жыл бұрын
  • A lot of these types of display run centralised signage software to control the layout and content. You can usually define an area of the screen to pick up live video streams from the network, like multicast or RTSP. Needless to say, there are Linux based, open source, signage projects like Xibo you can use, so if you have a machine with a TV tuner card, you could stream TV across your LAN to your non-TV signage display.

    @juststeve5542@juststeve5542 Жыл бұрын
    • HD Homerun is excellent for this

      @andrewjohnston359@andrewjohnston359 Жыл бұрын
    • A pc on a stick running Windows or Linux are plug and play, They work out to be cheaper than the time and hassle of using RPi stuff!

      @TerryLawrence001@TerryLawrence001 Жыл бұрын
  • I worked on the display Signage at DEN and am still good friends with the team that maintains them! Loved to see them make the Video!

    @MrAnthonyt2010@MrAnthonyt2010Күн бұрын
  • You know what the best part about these is. My school has a lot of these hanging everywhere. I realised it as soon as they crashed. They do that a lot and the school is to lazy to reboot them.

    @teun3dprint467@teun3dprint467Ай бұрын
  • I wish we could still buy "dumb" TVs, with no smart features, which could just have all their settings controlled by whatever media player box we're using.

    @iAmTheSquidThing@iAmTheSquidThing Жыл бұрын
    • I have 2. This video might be over my head and I just don't get it. I have a 50 inch dumb tv with a windows 7 PC and pi 3b hooked up. In my kitchen I have a 32 inch ( I am using it right now) with Nvidia Shield box. Both use keyboard and mouse, gamepads. So I just do not understand the hype for this monitor he is showing. Ok mine are not built in, but Velcro or build a bracket behind tv a connect with HDMI. What's the difference?

      @davefarley4318@davefarley4318 Жыл бұрын
    • Both TV's are sceptre TV's. Both remotes work on eather tv

      @davefarley4318@davefarley4318 Жыл бұрын
    • You could accomplish the same thing by simply not connecting your tv to the internet....

      @user-nh3gu1ge3d@user-nh3gu1ge3d Жыл бұрын
    • @@davefarley4318 a lot of money

      @user-nh3gu1ge3d@user-nh3gu1ge3d Жыл бұрын
    • @@davefarley4318 thats the catch lol, the only dumb tv nowadays are mediocre displays compared to the rest of the market (its a walmart brand afterall) and dont expect 99% of the actual good displays will come with smart functionality

      @verbosi7y275@verbosi7y275 Жыл бұрын
  • Great timing on this! I have a few Pis running as dashboards for processes at work, simply refreshing an internal website every few minutes to get updated data. I'm planning on transitioning to something better where I could mix the page in with company announcements and other dashboards. I'd love to see a video about doing something like this with an open-source software.

    @GlenJackson@GlenJackson Жыл бұрын
  • I used a 55 inch NEC display with an OPS module as my living room TV for a long time. The OPS module was beastly too, 6th Gen i7 and 16gb of RAM

    @davidabner8885@davidabner8885 Жыл бұрын
  • Those things are great. We use them as information displays in our fire and rescue stations, where they show general information such as time, weather, tide and specialized info such as current ressource status or in case of an alarm a data overlay about the new mission, site, action type etc...

    @gibbsfreenthalpy@gibbsfreenthalpy Жыл бұрын
    • They're perfect for that. And maybe the world's most expensive Raspberry Pi magic mirror :D

      @JeffGeerling@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
  • It's almost jarring watching you do videos, and then see so much stuff from where I live. It's so rare to find a 'tuber that's in the area! I need to keep en eye out, maybe I'll bump into you on of these days!

    @prozacgod@prozacgod Жыл бұрын
    • Aging Wheels is near STL for another good channel. Now if only anyone was from KC

      @startedtech@startedtech Жыл бұрын
  • I had never imagined the TV of my dreams would also come with an RS-232 port! Time to break out the null modem cable!

    @jeezusjr@jeezusjr Жыл бұрын
  • I still use a nec p702 from 2008 which ran forever. The quality of the components inside is impressive.

    @Veikra@Veikra Жыл бұрын
  • Was searching for this topic of video 2 weeks ago. glad i found this. Keen for more!

    @bobobaggin1300@bobobaggin1300 Жыл бұрын
  • The coolest use of displays I've seen in a store (and a mall store at that) was the Microsoft store(rip), where they had displays basically wrapping around the walls.

    @startedtech@startedtech Жыл бұрын
    • There was this furniture store we had, (we still have it) and it had a commercial that did really well. They had wraparound displays showing all of their commercials in one of their branches after that.

      @heavenlydusk@heavenlydusk Жыл бұрын
  • Yep, spent $13k on a display from them for a Hendrick dealership I worked at. Freaking amazing displays. Especially for outdoor use. Humidity didn't bother it, bright enough to display even with direct sunlight!

    @truerollers@truerollers Жыл бұрын
  • that is so cool. especially that the board is removable so you can add newer ones later!

    @mrrolandlawrence@mrrolandlawrence7 ай бұрын
  • This reminds me of my first flat tv was a $4000 commercial Panasonic 50 plasma with a similar blade system that allowed input upgrading I loved that tv!

    @Ghostviperz@Ghostviperz Жыл бұрын
  • its great to see that raspberry pi integrations are now available for commercial use interesting to see how many of them are already probably at use at stores, i have to keep an eye open next time im in a store so i can maybe spot one of those lol

    @einnicernutzer@einnicernutzer Жыл бұрын
  • A "TV" with a serial port, the nostalgia!

    @mattybbg6850@mattybbg6850 Жыл бұрын
  • I picked up an ‘older’ NEC display to use with my streaming box. For being only 1080, it has amazing color accuracy, smooth motion and best of all, none of the clunkiness and unnecessary features of a smart TV.

    @thejpkotor@thejpkotor Жыл бұрын
  • Hey Jeff, great video! Really enjoyed seeing RPis in use IRL! Super cool! Also, I wanted to say this video had a really high production value, which was cool! On the other hand I also enjoy the less produced stuff because it comes off as more you (like Red Shirt Jeff :) ). Either way, great video!

    @zb9458@zb9458 Жыл бұрын
  • I thought it was going to be a chore to find a non-smart TV to replace the one that just died, but I wasn't expecting that I would be replacing it with a store display. This is fantastic news!

    @KlausWulfenbach@KlausWulfenbach Жыл бұрын
    • Be prepared to shell out a pretty penny though, they are really expensive...

      @gibbsfreenthalpy@gibbsfreenthalpy Жыл бұрын
    • Just get a smart TV and don't connect to the internet

      @xEqualsRandom@xEqualsRandom Жыл бұрын
    • @@gibbsfreenthalpy There were at least 3-4 options on the sitelink Jeff provided that were 4k resolution under $1000; when you consider that they should last at least 10 years and probably more, it's not that bad -- compared to giving up your freedom and advertising info + your TV is spying on you and using your internet bandwidth

      @kingneutron1@kingneutron1 Жыл бұрын
    • @@kingneutron1 huh, ok, didn't see that, sry. I just roughly know the price we paid, and that was definitely more, even considering that we bought about 50-60 of them...

      @gibbsfreenthalpy@gibbsfreenthalpy Жыл бұрын
    • @@kingneutron1 How's it spying on you if you don't connect it to the internet? This whole concept seems a bit far fetched to me. In terms of value, you're way better off buying a smart TV, leaving it disconnected from the internet, and hooking up a HTPC or Raspberry Pi with internet access.

      @mcbot6291@mcbot6291 Жыл бұрын
  • Yeah, those setups are pretty good. I worked with older NEC screens, which were a part of some kiosk system which I had to repurpose in serveral of our offices. It had to be done cheap, so some PI's and a rescheduled screen did the trick. When we went into lockdown in 2020 I left the PI's on, when I returned a few months ago they were still running lol.

    @Saaihead@Saaihead Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks Jeff. Fantastic products

    @james130362@james130362 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video, as always, Jeff! Thank you

    @Jason-mk3nn@Jason-mk3nn Жыл бұрын
  • Sounds like the ultimate display for a Homelab Grafana display.

    @B3yondBlu@B3yondBlu Жыл бұрын
  • This thing is great! Aside these enterprise displays, we need non-smart TVs to make a comeback!

    @madkvideo@madkvideo Жыл бұрын
    • My last TV, I bought it based on the screen specs because I knew it would get outdated pretty fast. Also refurbished, pretty sure someone didn't like the lack of some smart features

      @vitorhugopereiradesousa1721@vitorhugopereiradesousa1721 Жыл бұрын
    • Smaller again as well. A high quality picture in a small format is plenty in many cases. Just consider what most people used to watch this video.

      @bravocharlie639@bravocharlie639 Жыл бұрын
  • Wow, this combination is really cool!

    @ScottJWaldron@ScottJWaldron Жыл бұрын
  • Wow .. i've done video walls before on standard Rpi's but this, this is a dream. Many thanks for this precious knowlege

    @thepastplayer4988@thepastplayer4988 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video. I work in the signage industry and love these displays a lot and wish I could work with them more. But getting some small shop to actually buy them at this price, instead of the cheapest TV at Best Buy and then just using a FireTV stick, is very difficult. Signage has a lot of options and most go with the cheapest solution. I'm in SoCal and when I go through McD's drive through around the area, I see that the "TVs" the chose to use are failing big time. So if McD's can't even afford to install these, then Joe's sunglass hut probably won't either :)

    @CrkdLtrN@CrkdLtrN Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah; I have noticed some places cheap out, and within months, the TV is washed out or really, really dim (especially if they place it somewhere exposed to sunlight for part of the day). And at that point, since they invested in the setup their using, they just go with it (since the dull image isn't as noticeable if you've just seen it every day a tiny bit less) and don't feel like they could switch to a proper display at some point :(

      @JeffGeerling@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
  • Oh hey, I have an older 1080p model of one of these! Recovered it from a long abandoned business location It currently runs as my primary monitor on my desktop. This displays surprisingly good for just about damn near anything you could throw at it, I was surprised it even still worked when I found it lmao

    @sarcasticmcspastic@sarcasticmcspastic9 ай бұрын
  • Very informative. I didn't know this about displays.

    @stargasm1000@stargasm1000 Жыл бұрын
  • awesome video! also, your ansible playbooks have been incredibly helpful over the years - just wanted to call that out lol

    @merc248@merc248 Жыл бұрын
  • This TV may be the only reliable source to buy a RPI these days :-)

    @neteagle2k9@neteagle2k9 Жыл бұрын
    • lol and... 😭

      @JeffGeerling@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
    • I don't know haha, but in Malaysia we have a very reliable official store that, i saw, has stocks that are available once a week, 10/20 of them once, but usually comes with package, that sucks, but sometimes i got the pi just with a $10 sd card, It's name is Cytron Technologies

      @kreinova2747@kreinova2747 Жыл бұрын
    • @@kreinova2747 Cytron's pretty cool - they've contacted me in the past, and they have some decent white-label parts too.

      @JeffGeerling@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
  • Me walking into random stores in the mall: CAN I LOOK AT YOUR TVS JEFF TOLD ME TO SEE IF THEY HAVE PIES

    @dakotaferris4842@dakotaferris4842 Жыл бұрын
    • Haha "Mall traffic was up 7% this month, but nobody bought anything, they were just looking at all our store displays."

      @JeffGeerling@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
  • Love these things. Run loads of them at work for digital signage!

    @StephenOliver001@StephenOliver001 Жыл бұрын
  • thanks for this great video, learning about these things was very interesting

    @OmniKoneko@OmniKoneko Жыл бұрын
  • Seems like a 4k (KZhead) capable pi will be ideal. Eagerly waiting for a snapdragon gen 3 type soc, 8 6x2 or 4x4 big.little with a nice adreno 730 or mali g78. Gonna need a passive heatsink but hey, I'll take a price bump to $45 for 4gb at that point. I don't need my big gaming pc all the time, so doing responsive browsing on a pi would be ideal instead of the pi/laptop combo.

    @XxUltimateGodzXx@XxUltimateGodzXx Жыл бұрын
  • It's funny you pointed out webOS as the proprietary operating system :) That's based on the open source webOS from Palm and HP years ago. LG still maintains the current repo. webOS OSE.

    @parkerlreed@parkerlreed Жыл бұрын
    • still got my hp touchpad (at least thats had more updates/life than my now defunct ipad3) with a gazillion updates/improvements on it and a pre3 collecting dust somewhere.

      @disasterincarnate@disasterincarnate Жыл бұрын
    • Samsung TVs use Tizen, which is also open source and actually backed by the Linux Foundation.

      @izzieb@izzieb Жыл бұрын
  • I'd been curious about this for a while, thanks for scratching the itch!!!!!!!

    @nicspits9876@nicspits9876 Жыл бұрын
  • Good video! Some of us really like tech! I used Kodi for years and run Retro on a Pi 3 with a USB NES controller. Works well.

    @dirtyminerapparel@dirtyminerapparel Жыл бұрын
  • how about DRM streaming services, I can't seem to get these to work on my linux desktop due to DRM (widevine L1) not being supported, I'm guessing it will be the same for pi based media centers? Lets say for amazon prime hd, can't get that one to work.

    @frydac@frydac Жыл бұрын
  • This video is embedded on Sharp-NEC's SOC page for their signage. Congrats! Oh, and the Pi does have hardware h.265 (hevc) decoding and will do 4K fine, if you encoded it properly. If it doesn't, then Handbrake is your friend.

    @charleshill7184@charleshill7184 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for creating so many great videos!

    @notransfat1@notransfat1 Жыл бұрын
  • Woah thanks for this. I always wondered what types of displays those are at stores!

    @delsings@delsings Жыл бұрын
  • I’ve been wondering if there’s anyone that makes just the display for awhile. This answers that. Dumb tvs are the future. Pick your own OS

    @Foiliagegaming@Foiliagegaming Жыл бұрын
  • The serial port might seem odd, but RS-232 was the standard way of controlling displays and projectors before CEC came along, and continues to be used in the "pro" market. My projector has a serial port and it has been very useful in automating my home theatre.

    @beauregardslim1914@beauregardslim1914 Жыл бұрын
  • For consumer TV, you can buy demo units. 12 years ago, I bought a demo unit. It has one great feature: a glass panel in front of the screen! I also suspect a better build, because it's still doing great in all aspect. I also got it cheaper than the original product, because it was already used. A friend who bought it with me didn't want in the first place, so I explained him that those TVs are made to be on display every day while the store is open, plus the glass pane that makes it sturdier. I bought back my part a few years later. A bit expensive, but that TV was expensive and the price was still right.

    @programaths@programaths Жыл бұрын
  • Great video thanks Jeff

    @brenthoadley@brenthoadley Жыл бұрын
  • Funnily enough one of the shops near my place has one, for the last few weeks its bugged out, so its displaying linux error codes, so i wondered if it had a pi inside or some other arm computer

    @MrBlakBunny@MrBlakBunny Жыл бұрын
    • Could also still be Intel, just running a Linux OS instead of Windows.

      @JeffGeerling@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
  • The screen image quality is bad, better to just buy a normal tv, then connect a pi via hdmi to it.

    @rodrigofilho1996@rodrigofilho19969 ай бұрын
    • It's almost impossible to find non-"smart" TVs on the consumer market these days. The data tracking and advertising increase the profit margin.

      @pseudonym1515@pseudonym151525 күн бұрын
    • @@pseudonym1515 Just leave the TV offline, it cant send data without internet.

      @rodrigofilho1996@rodrigofilho199624 күн бұрын
  • So thankful for this

    @kamelnazar-instructionalde9740@kamelnazar-instructionalde9740 Жыл бұрын
  • This was awesome and has given me some expensive ideas

    @markshaz8691@markshaz8691 Жыл бұрын
  • I've said for a long time TV'S should use a standard input interface so the smart part can be upgraded

    @stultuses@stultuses Жыл бұрын
    • SCART?

      @jocramkrispy305@jocramkrispy305 Жыл бұрын
  • Jeff, is it possible to recreate this experience by plugging in a Pi4 to the hdmi input as well as having the Pi control some sort of IR-blaster? This way it could control the IR functions of the TV, including power cycling. Is there a generic remote? It would seem there might be a market for converting smart TVs into smarter TVs. Be cool to have a standard remote and software suite for doing this. Of course one would not benefit from the better hardware of a commercial unit. Wonder how big those panels get in 4k?

    @prawnmikus@prawnmikus Жыл бұрын
    • On our (not smart and old enough to be cold cathode backlit) tv, some simple commands can be sent between the pi and tv over hdmi-cec. This includes changing the input source to the pi when it boots and play/pause on the tv remote playing and pausing when running kodi. This can be a bit hit and miss and doesn't have many features implemented, so an IR solution might be the best way to go (maybe even a relay on the mains supply of the TV a guaranteed way of restarting it or putting it in a known state). Historically, each major manufacturer has had their own ir protocols and mappings of buttons. The Linux IR drivers have built in learning functionality from a genuine remote, or can use an existing config file someone else has made. I think this is still in the hobbyist realms for now (unless something has changed and I am not up with the times) as too much talk of interfacing devices together will put off those who just want their tvs to work and will make do with the smart tv's foibles instead. For anything commercial, I would think an off the shelf solution like outlined in the video would probably be selected for reliability, time and having someone to call to fix it for you reasons.

      @jg374@jg374 Жыл бұрын
    • You'd be surprised how many TVs have CEC, even if it's not explicitly stated in the manual. I've found many TVs capable of controlling Kodi distributions through the in-built pulse CEC plugin. Most basic buttons, like arrows, OK/Enter and Back work fine for Kodi.

      @familyguy0398@familyguy0398 Жыл бұрын
    • I do this with libreele on a pi. CEC allows the arrow buttons on some TV models' remote to control Kodi as well as turn off the TV or wake the TV from being off on button press, although I normally use a remote connected to rpi via USB (not all of my tvs support CEC and since they're all older I wasn't expecting them to say I bought remotes for all 3).

      @RyanFranklinWilliams@RyanFranklinWilliams Жыл бұрын
  • NEC displays have been my go to choice for business applications. I always get arguments from people complaining that they are too expensive. They see the prices of TVs at Best Buy and Costco and think, "What's the difference?" I always explain that the commercial displays are built for commercial applications, they are but to last and be on for long periods of time. Furthermore, consumer TV warranties often do not cover the TV when installed outside of someone's house. I don't need or want a SmartTV with a Netflix button on the remote in a conference room. I want a large display, not a large TV. Great video, I'm going to show this to people who challenge me on why I spec a commercial display in the future.

    @stnkpalm@stnkpalm Жыл бұрын
  • btw: sharps remote worked out of the box because of hdmi cec :)

    @DanielandStuff7@DanielandStuff7 Жыл бұрын
    • Ah... that would be obvious from the little message that popped up while I was booting the first time :P

      @JeffGeerling@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
  • Love the video... The only thing I might've missed is the price of this screen...

    @igordasunddas3377@igordasunddas3377 Жыл бұрын
    • Check the links in the description-this model is somewhere around $1500 USD, so I didn't want to focus too much on price, since it's not something the average consumer would probably consider.

      @JeffGeerling@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
    • @@JeffGeerling I replied to another comment, if you go to the sitelink you provided and sort by price, once you get past the "contact us" junk there are at least 3-4 options for 4K resolution displays under $1k :)

      @kingneutron1@kingneutron1 Жыл бұрын
  • I enjoyed this video. Thank you.

    @anthonyjohnson4775@anthonyjohnson4775 Жыл бұрын
  • RPI’s or aka virtual machines have been used in this capacity for over 10 years from what i can remember. manufactures use them to display company information and or production information to the employees.

    @Castalliano88@Castalliano889 ай бұрын
  • "Smarter than a Smart TV" oh gods no. What now, don't tell me they taught it to tell when I'm lying so it can interrogate me about brand preferences. Edit: oh so it's actually just a big display that can make for an actually good TV that won't spy on me.

    @WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart Жыл бұрын
  • Amazing that you could upgrade this thing in the future without having to toss the whole TV for a new one,I have a fairly modern Quantum Dot TV and while its picture quality is fantastic, I often find its UI to be slow and laggy,Most likely because it has a slow processor :/

    @Nevakonaza.@Nevakonaza. Жыл бұрын
  • Wow how cool is this? Thanks for this cool video Jeff!

    @deanlawson6880@deanlawson6880 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks Jeff for the videos I really love Pi..😍

    @omarjanudin@omarjanudin Жыл бұрын
  • Love all this, definitely best type of TV. Pi is invented, designed and manufactured in west UK in Southern Wales. Amazing country to visit if you have the time. Beautiful place.

    @MrKarlyboy@MrKarlyboy Жыл бұрын
  • Back in 2009 I had to buy a new tv to replace my old CRT tv I'd had since 2003. Well I found a 50" flat panel tv from Sharp and decided it'd be a perfect replacement. At the time it cost me right around $1000. Get this, I still have that tv and it works beautifully! It's being used in my recording studio as a computer monitor, but also has Roku, a Blu-Ray player and a DVD player all hooked up to it. So I can watch movies, surf the web, record music, etc., etc. Sharp have always made some great electronics!

    @BreannaMae@BreannaMae Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for this video! For a while now I've been had the NEC V754Q on my list of potential TV replacements. I have yet to pull the trigger because there just aren't really good reviews or experience that I can find. This is the first such video, so I appreciate your insights. Ultimately I'll probably still settle for a Sony, but man these NEC displays are very tempting.

    @csilv@csilv Жыл бұрын
  • This shows how versatile the Pi is. I don’t own one, perhaps I should. I was thinking of getting a Pi 400 as I like the form factor. I currently use an Asus Chromebook and an iPad as my daily driver.

    @neilthomas6042@neilthomas6042 Жыл бұрын
  • clever setup 👍🏻

    @momomaniac1234@momomaniac1234 Жыл бұрын
  • Its always cool to compare the redundancy of commercial/ enterprise gear vs consumer products.

    @kyleallred984@kyleallred984 Жыл бұрын
  • Super cool. We use Adobe Experience Manager Screens at my job to manage all digital signage

    @chouter21@chouter21 Жыл бұрын
  • Hello, Thank You For Telling me about it.

    @jacquelynnacopoulos1278@jacquelynnacopoulos1278 Жыл бұрын
  • I'd be very interested in a follow up looking into a viable way to use one of these as a media center. 1080p is fine. High refresh rate gaming is off the table but that's fine too. The only issue I see here is the high cost you mentioned, and the technical hoops to jump through.

    @Ace-pc2cm@Ace-pc2cm Жыл бұрын
  • I already found a lot of displays running with Rasperry Pis, but often the Pi just is strapped with some zip ties to the wires that go into the display. Such hacky setups are quite popular.

    @Toxicity1987@Toxicity1987 Жыл бұрын
    • And cheaper

      @enkiimuto1041@enkiimuto1041 Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome video. Great work!

    @conrat2000@conrat2000 Жыл бұрын
  • Never would have thought!

    @allenellisdewitt@allenellisdewitt Жыл бұрын
  • These are also used in ORs for imaging too. So surgeons can share images and see done color perfect details.

    @Charles-jy6nx@Charles-jy6nx Жыл бұрын
  • I kinda did the same thing, I replaced my 10y old 32' Samsung 3d TV with a Dell 32' gaming PC monitor and plugged on it a good set of speakers. I was using as well a shield tv since 2015. I love to plug a PC on it and run retro games with accurate high resolution CRT shaders

    @Tailslol@Tailslol Жыл бұрын
  • Hey, I know that mall! Cool video, Jeff. I've noticed those screens everywhere, but never really thought much about how they're different from regular living room TVs.

    @jessechounard@jessechounard Жыл бұрын
  • Great video and info!

    @therosses5@therosses5 Жыл бұрын
  • The ability to swap out the compute module, and the reliability would make it worth pay its cost, this is amazing.

    @mrxmgs3768@mrxmgs3768 Жыл бұрын
    • I have heard they last about 3 years (coincidentally when the warranty ends) and then start having backlight issues, but some of the ones I saw installed in around 2014 are still going strong today,

      @lblb24@lblb24 Жыл бұрын
  • I especially enjoyed the clip from my favorite Star Trek movie. I'm watching it now. 😁

    @osgnuru@osgnuru Жыл бұрын
  • NEC has always had great remote support. At one time I had 4 P462s that Burgerking upgraded. They threw all of them in the dumpster, breaking 2 screens. These things are beast. Windows 7 pc compute modules built in. They are not the greatest I’ve seen on a TV. But daisychaining them together is always a blast.

    @jj74qformerlyjailbreak3@jj74qformerlyjailbreak3 Жыл бұрын
  • I've got a colleague who has a side hustle running a cloud service for remotely managing menus and advertising displays like your examples. He has a published app for the Amazon FireStick type devices that connects to his system. It's an interesting setup and would obviously run on any existing TV with a cheap enough addon of a FireStick. I do like the idea of running a Pi for something like status, statistic and monitoring graphics though.

    @bloodtobleed@bloodtobleed Жыл бұрын
  • Finally a tv that doesnt take almost if not all of your data. tbh, it shouldve always been that way. Nice to see that Sharp NEC prioritized on the essential first.

    @xerxesYt123@xerxesYt12310 ай бұрын
  • in the munic airport, they have some of the terminals with raspberry pi, once I saw one of them broken with the logo of the rpi...

    @jaumesinglavalls5486@jaumesinglavalls5486 Жыл бұрын
  • Very cool. Can’t wait to try this when Raspberry Pi’s become available.

    @AllanKobelansky@AllanKobelansky Жыл бұрын
  • I'm a tinkerer at heart, but definitely a battle when choosing something customizable but straight forward at the same time. I was originally looking at Google TV os, because of access to Android apps, but the profiles suck, the only thing the profiles do is separate the home suggestions, not your actual accounts in apps.

    @NathanBiskop@NathanBiskop11 ай бұрын
  • Hello fellow St. Louisan! I have hooked PC's up to my televisions for years. I watched this video and am typing up this comment on a 720p plasma hooked up to an Core i5 HTPC. I also picked up one of those LG C1 OLED 55 inch TVs about 9 months ago. The picture is BEAUTIFUL. The built in speakers are no slouches either. I have it hooked up to a PC, but I did give the smart functions a try. They are actually quite good for what they are. I still prefer a PC hooked up to the TV though.

    @tomconway6808@tomconway6808 Жыл бұрын
    • The Atom version of those compute modules should run Windows tho

      @fusseldieb@fusseldieb Жыл бұрын
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