Hiring Secrets of a Netflix Software Engineering Manager
2024 ж. 20 Мам.
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Tips to get you the Software Engineering job you want at the Software Engineer salary you expect!
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0:00 Introduction
0:34 Getting Your First Software Engineer Job
6:25 How To Network To Get Your First Job
11:13 Learning how to communicate as a Software Engineer
12:55 How Do You Stand Out From The Rest
19:29 What stands out in the interview process
27:31 How to Write a Well-Rated Resume
40:28 3 Things Every Software Engineer Needs to Know
50:53 Outroduction
I started my first internship out of high school and did well enough to get a full-time junior position. Now I'm doing my degree while working. Honestly, for a junior dev, in this day and age, knowing people is a huge leg up and is the only reason I could prove myself. I was beyond lucky. It took 8 months of constant unpaid overtime and delving into some dark places mentally, but I'm happy to say that school and work are going well now. If I play my cards right, I could graduate a 21-year-old with 4 years of experience.
That is outstanding! Well done.
It's channels like yours and Theo's that make the journey so fun!@@jherr
20:30 It's a job interview, not a marriage proposal. Sometimes, I don't have any questions - everything's clear as day. Also, this standard format of asking candidates if they have questions at the end? It's pretty presumptuous. But hey, I get it, these biases are part of the game, and sometimes you just have to play along with these silly rituals.
I am also almost OVERLY sensitive about making sure I look genuine, and most of these questions I just feel are soooooo superfluous, so I just don't ask the ones they probably get 1_000_000 times. Idk.
I really appreciate this new series with everything going on this will be very helpful to have a repository of hiring manager thoughts that can be pulled up and considered when going through the process. I think it's really important to see and hear from big companies like Netflix but I also think it would be valuable to find smaller companies that maybe have a 20-30 person dev team and focus on like supply side automation or something to hear their thoughts. I only thought of this because of 2 parts 1. about understanding the business, what stack they use, how many engineers they have, ect. and 2. only applying to a few jobs, at a time. These two points seem to make more sense for a Netflix style company but not so much the supply company, right? ahhh... also maybe interviews with recently hired juniors who can explain a little about the current market and how they see it. What did they do to get hired, how was their process, did they have internships, did they maybe tell a little white lie about how much of a specific technology they understood, you know stuff like that. Man...🤔 I see so much potential in a series like this 😁🤞🏾and you, Jack, have always been a technologist who views I respect, even if I disagree, because of your approach and the genuine care I see you have about others when giving you views. thanks again man this was cool to see, not that I agree with everything in the video but still so cool, and excited for more like this!
Awesome ideas! Thank you!
The talk is fun and helpful. Thanks for it.
You are truly great I have learned lot of thing about react , testing, ts and ... After i subscribed your channel, also this was brilliant video and now i know lots of thing to mention in my interview, Thanks a lot
DIdnt go to college, did not even finish high school, did not have connections, the connections i have was not helpfull at all. Was lucky enough to get into a 2 year program and landed a job straight after for a fully remote position which is perfect due to my circumstances. There is hope but it was a grind and I still struggle learning new stuff all the time
Respect!!
I wasn't into how Jem didn't share a single positive example even if it means burning it and instead went the low effort gatekeeping way by sharing negative examples
Video is a waste of time, it's employers' market now and it shows, has been a jerkfest in tech recruiting for a while. They want more and more from every candidate while not bothering themselves, and I'm not even talking junior positions, standards are getting to ridiculous levels. There's always a way to outquestion any programmer - you good at databases, well how about leetcode, you're good there ok but have you done heavy async, you did that, do you know how this particular service works under the hood, etc. I've been to half dozen senior dev interviews and they all give most random feedback based on one particular think they happened to want. One will say you're great at X but bad at Y, the other says you're bad at X and great at Y, how they determine your level is anything but standardized or clear. After all there are N positions and M candidates on the market, doesn't really matter how good you are if there are 500 candidates for a mediocre job. And that's how it is now. Videos like that nag about candidate standards, but if everyone ups theirs - well guess what it didnt create any extra jobs, and now you gotta compete again and bar has been set higher once again, you just wasted energy for nothing, congratulations. Similiar to how when it's a employees market - like early covid days, they won't give a damn about 99% they nag about now, and hire anyone who's above hello world level.
Oh, and be well connected. That's the main thing I took away from this guy: "Don't even bother applying, we're just going hire our friends."
This was super valuable, thanks!
Thanks for your usual timely and helpful content Jack. Having been laid off in November, does anybody see a bounce yet? I’m only seeing salary offers cut by half. Ready to get all the tips in this vid thrown into my LinkedIn before lunch.
Jobs seem to be coming back, but yeah, salaries seem much lower.
Thanks, Jack
7:15 I'm find an angular job 😅
Putting keywords in bold makes the document less human-readable. It's like hitting speedbumps along the road. If you're looking for GraphQL, that filter should have been set in ATS and then you would know that all of the resumes reviewed by humans include some mention of GraphQL.
Sure. What I think Jem was referring to was putting an emphasis on it in the resume by bringing it forward so that he doesn't have to scroll to see it.
jem young ! if you are reading this i want to let you know - wasm course on FM has been a blast : )
Thanks! Hope there were a few valuable takeaways in all my ramblings :D
@@jemyoung6 a lot
Thank you for always giving us great content. btw the discord invited is expired
Thanks. I'll fix that.
70% nonsensical + click bait => bad result.
Wasnt this channel called Blue Collar Coder if I remember correctly a few months ago ? What happened jack ?
Ok. I'd love to know more about how I'm failing your expectations here. To me, part of being a coder is getting paid to do it. That means getting a job. So I thought asking a few hiring managers on to tell you what they look for in a candidate would get a good thing. Is that not the case?
@@jherr Oh no, absolutely not failing expectations. In fact i love it. Maybe its just me but blue collar kinda meant - for everyone not just the smartasses . Programming is seen as an elitist profession so to me your channel name stood against that
@@tilakmadichettitheappdeveloper That's certainly my intention. I'm not college educated. Jem is. But I think both of us were trying to make the point that it's passion and life long learning that really matter. And if it's the referrals thing, at least in my experience that referral can come from anywhere. Someone can find some source code that you posted, strike up a conversation with you about it, and that can turn into a referral.
@@jherrYou should be proud of not having a degree because of all the time you saved. My experience at the university of Toronto, where I am about to graduate this April, has been horrible. I talked to two other students in two other well ranked unis in the UK and US and they also said their education was bad. The professors who teach programming courses have no experience usually. The ones who have experience have a few years and that shows but they still suck at teaching. Their experience shows in that they write lot more code during lectures compared to the ones with no experience. My sample size of two professors with experience vs. four without. I had one professor who has 14 years of experience at just one crappy company. He had a third year intro to software engineering class and didn't write a single line of code throughout the whole course. This guy didn't mention so many important concepts like monitoring and logging and testing that I learned the existence of myself a year after his course. People like me who went to a university for a degree are suckers. We're wasting tens of thousands of dollars and four years of our lives for education worse than free online resources. In my opinion, people who are proud of their degree are the dumbest people because it's like being proud of owning garbage. What I've learnt on my own time and making site projects has taught me basically everything I know. Out of the 9 programming classes I took, none of them were worth the time and money. The university system and professors are so outdated they don't even record lectures. Professors are forced to do in person lectures like the middle ages.
Great talk !
25:00 I can't disagree more... I'm really disappointed with this, Jack. I don't think that discussing about the relationship between workers and work environment is disrespectful in any way. Much of the "drama" is just people talking about the corporate world in the intention of making it better for everyone. 26:40 I understand that nobody will win in a public fight in LinkedIn/Twitter/whatever post, but I don't feel like most of the discussions employers give a bad look about in LinkedIn, for instance, are fights. Generally, it is just people advocating for better work conditions that go really against the interests of those employers. I don't know if I'm misinterpreting the subject you two are talking about, so I apologize if my words come out in the wrong way, and I would love to hear more. So far, I was expecting a different position in this matter, so that's why I'm a little bit frustrated. I love your content, keep going.
What a depressing video for neurodivergent folks. Long time viewer, but this video hits differently. What I got from this is to get a job in tech, you: Must be part of the good'ol boys club (referrals are king) Must not struggle socially at all (be an A+ communicator) Must be able to afford "f-around time" to build 20 projects nobody will ever use. This is why my last tech lead couldn't even properly merge a commit. At least he was cool 😂
I'm really sorry to hear you say that. I'm dyslexic. I never went to college. And I've struggled all my life because of that. I was hoping what you would hear from Jem, and myself, is that it's really passion and interests that count. In addition, communications is a skill you can grow into, or not, and as we said, you don't need to be a KZhead presenter, you can communicate with words, or with audio. There are lots of options.
Anybody who says “neurodivergent” seriously is not ready for the adult world yet
@@ToddDunning Okay champ, does 'cognitive disability' work better for you? Turns out human language is more flexible than programming languages, so I understand if you struggle with it. Maybe one day you'll get there♥ PS. Care to tell me what company you hire for, so I can avoid it? *Edit*: Oops, nevermind. Just saw your other comment. Sorry about the layoff, bud.
@@jherr I appreciate that advice. I, too, missed out on college, so I get it. Maybe a more detailed/nuanced discussion about overcoming the challenges folks like you and I have faced would do a lot of good?
@@Alec.Vision I'd like to do more of these, since I think folks benefit from seeing both sides of the interviewing table. So I'll see if I can add some more of my personal experience and perspective to it.
in b4 dei puts referral quotas
Jack stop interrupting your guests and practice being a better listener. It's really hard listening with your constant interruptions and random noises you make with your mouth.
that's real life 😅
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