When Nissan Went Mad

2024 ж. 10 Мам.
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Motorsport isn’t rational. There’s no fundamentally good reason to race fast cars around loops of varying size and complexity. But its exciting. It’s exciting to race, it’s exciting to have a chance at glory, a chance to be the best. It’s easy therefore to understand why passionate drivers are compelled to race, but what compels a company?
This is the story of Nissan's Group C / GTP efforts in Japan's JSPC, Europe's WEC and the North American IMSA series.
Written by: Fred Knight
Edited by: JD Minny ( @jdminny )
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  • As someone who loves history in general and getting into motorsport in the last few years (other than street racing). I absolutely love hearing about cars, drivers and series otherwise not talked about.

    @daltoncole342@daltoncole34211 күн бұрын
  • It's actually insanely impressive that the onboard footage kept rolling, VHS is notoriously fickle.

    @javidaderson@javidaderson11 күн бұрын
    • I dont think they will use VHS for onboard footage, i think they will use a more robust tape format lol

      @gustiwidyanta5492@gustiwidyanta549210 күн бұрын
    • Interesting point, but wouldn’t the onboard be directly transmitted and recorded elsewhere? Like the video signal gets taken from the camera, and then sent to the transmission centre or whatever where they chose what to broadcast. So I do not really know if the recording takes place in the car. Has anyone more information on that?

      @Henriette187@Henriette1875 күн бұрын
    • @@Henriette187 i have been trying to get some good info but none of the websites have good answers.

      @gustiwidyanta5492@gustiwidyanta54925 күн бұрын
  • I love the red, white and blue liveries of Nissan's Group C fleet.

    @Mad_Martigen@Mad_Martigen11 күн бұрын
    • As timeless as Silk cut Jags and Rothmans Porsche imho.

      @Rich77UK@Rich77UK8 күн бұрын
  • 36:45 Absolutely terrifying onboard.

    @Dre_The_Millennial@Dre_The_Millennial11 күн бұрын
  • I love Group C! You're the only youtuber I can rely on you to upload videos about my favorite racing category!

    @axemangt@axemangt11 күн бұрын
    • Adin Millward has some great videos as well for all of the Championships. group c, group B and A rallying, F1 from the 60's-current, BTCC, WTCC, DTM, really great info. He also streams his E-sports racing league he is a part of.

      @bzilla1090@bzilla109011 күн бұрын
  • Bro you are the best racing historian

    @thato9212@thato921211 күн бұрын
  • I didn't know about the Group C Skyline, it looked awesome

    @JK061996@JK06199610 күн бұрын
  • I like the fact that this channel focuses more on the cars, rather than only the drivers and teams as all others do! Very good video as usual!

    @FlyinBlaney@FlyinBlaney11 күн бұрын
  • Cool to see a dive into some lesser known racing history like this! Just to add to it, Nissan did start developing a car for the 3.5l Group C rules during 1991, NISMO designed a new V12 engine for it and NPTI did the chassis. They ended up with 2 versions of the car that started testing during 1992, the P35 was NPTIs version that apparently had a really good chassis and aero, but the engine NISMO sent them was really underpowered. Then NISMO made their own version back in Japan called the NP35 that seemed to have a better engine but a worse chassis. NISMO ran their car in one JSPC race then cancelled the project cos money.

    @IDKarlos_@IDKarlos_10 күн бұрын
  • I LOVE group C. Yes, even today. Its still great watching.

    @Rich77UK@Rich77UK8 күн бұрын
  • You killed it with the Audio editing, I was getting spine chills out of excitement whenever there was a transition. Awesome stuff mate!

    @rufctr3@rufctr310 күн бұрын
  • This is indisputably the best automotive channel on any platform. What a lad.

    @_Bife@_Bife11 күн бұрын
  • You are literally the best content creator when it comes to history about motorsport.

    @safeasf_uck7020@safeasf_uck702010 күн бұрын
  • Fun fact. Anders Olaffson raced here in Australia for the factory Nissan touring car team. Did a bloody good job, too. Also, thanks for the amazing video. As a life long Nissan/Datsun fan this was freaking awesome.

    @amaccama3267@amaccama326711 күн бұрын
  • Another banger of a video (finally taking this in at length as these should be viewed). Keep it up as these are terrific!

    @mlgordita@mlgordita6 күн бұрын
  • Videos keep getting better and better, love the longer duration and treating them as proper TV shows now to be watched in the evening

    @Danielpettitphotography@Danielpettitphotography9 күн бұрын
  • Your research and storytelling abilities are absolutely fantastic, I’m glued to every video you’ve put out

    @r3dpandarecords@r3dpandarecords10 күн бұрын
  • love your videos man keep it going

    @yosho43@yosho4311 күн бұрын
  • Thanks you for keeping these moment of motorsport from being forgotten.

    @tropfen@tropfen10 күн бұрын
  • Great video BUT you missed a couple of things. Firstly Nissan did build a 3.5 litre car, the P35 with a v12 engine. It was a total failure. Second you missed the 2 huge crashes of the NPT 92/92 at Road Atlanta in '93 which effectively ended the whole NPT racing effort.

    @nigeljames1109@nigeljames110911 күн бұрын
    • You're right I missed the P35! Frustratingly I didn't see it in the Mine 500 entry list and unfortunately didn't double check. RE: NPTI; its my understanding that NPTI closed up shop in 1992, with Momo fielding a single car NPT-90 entrant in 1993. By the time of the crashes in practice and the race at Road Atlanta in 1992 (the last year NPTI were active as far as I can tell) it seemed from what I read that NPTI had already decided to move on (then folded when the NP35 plans fell apart). Assuming you're referring to the 1992 accidents I'm not sure what you mean by "ended the [effort]" - they entered all but 1 of the remaining races that year, am I missing something?

      @automobilistic@automobilistic11 күн бұрын
    • John Morton at Lime Rock! Huge crash.

      @Commander-McBragg@Commander-McBragg11 күн бұрын
    • @@automobilisticYou missed another one. Nissan Tame or Nissan Ta-120. I also never heard about this car before but I recorded it last time out at Hockenheim. Apparently there were only 25 cars produced. There is literally no information about this car what so ever on the internet.

      @HomeOfMotorsport@HomeOfMotorsport22 сағат бұрын
  • Videos keep getting better and better, great info

    @brdllc@brdllc11 күн бұрын
  • Another banger of a video dude! You’re super talented and one of my favorite creators on KZhead. Really nice editing and I love the stories! Always makes my day seeing a new automobilistic video pop up!

    @aikotachibana1816@aikotachibana181611 күн бұрын
  • The awkward moment when the fastest car in Gran Turismo history was in reality “aight”.

    @ImInLoveWithBulla@ImInLoveWithBulla11 күн бұрын
    • Just wait for the 787B episode.

      @GeneralCodeBlue@GeneralCodeBlue9 күн бұрын
    • Hey, it at least did better than the Toyota 88C-V, one of the most iconic cars from GT4, which entered 3 races and finished... 1: DNF 2: Last 3: Last and second-to-last

      @Mesder13@Mesder138 күн бұрын
    • @@GeneralCodeBlue oh boy, then it’ll be time to roast a sacred cow.

      @ImInLoveWithBulla@ImInLoveWithBulla7 күн бұрын
  • For ONCE, thank you algorithm! Love coming across well made motorsport history channels. That's my binge watching set for the week.

    @JontysCorner@JontysCorner10 күн бұрын
  • Group C has always had my heart ever since getting a VHS of le mans 88 and Gran Turismo. Love seeing the depth of cars not usually featured.

    @billyrowland24@billyrowland242 күн бұрын
  • Amazing job man: your content was already of good quality, but it's improving with each and every video. And the format of this video works very well, so please feel free to keep doing stuff like this!

    @RobertoVernina@RobertoVernina10 күн бұрын
  • Great research, presentation, and production quality.

    @intensepar8975@intensepar897511 күн бұрын
  • These videos are incredibly well produced and i adore them.

    @12spies@12spies11 күн бұрын
  • Thank you for this high quality, well-researched video! 🙂 Great footage and information on an often ignored Group C participant.

    @alaricbragg7843@alaricbragg784310 күн бұрын
  • Great video as always, I know you’ve done the R390 GT1 but I’d love to see it and the R391 covered as in depth as this has been

    @matsimmo6208@matsimmo620811 күн бұрын
  • I love the topics you bring. I am also impressed by what the Japanese car industry has brought to the world. 👍💪✌️

    @rjung_ch@rjung_ch11 күн бұрын
  • Thank you this was very good!

    @WBD86@WBD869 күн бұрын
  • This channel is excellent. Those cars give goosebumps just by looking at them.

    @Christoffski@Christoffski10 күн бұрын
  • Fantastic vid, as usual! Now you should do a vid on that DOMINANT Toyota Eagle Mk III

    @cellss0138@cellss013811 күн бұрын
  • wow, amazing video!

    @Rerags_@Rerags_11 күн бұрын
  • I would like the videos on this channel to have Japanese subtitles.I don't understand English, but I feel that this channel is what I'm looking for.

    @user-uu6hn9te7x@user-uu6hn9te7x11 күн бұрын
  • Cool video and cooler glasses‼️

    @aesthetics1190@aesthetics119011 күн бұрын
  • Great video! I got my start in Pro Racing at Electramotive and then NPTI and I’m still working on race cars at 63 years old and I wouldn’t have it any other way!

    @Mtlmshr@Mtlmshr10 күн бұрын
  • your editing, in every sense, from choice of video to background music, is absoiutely amazing, you should have 1 million subs atleast. what do you use to edit?

    @dylansmith6911@dylansmith691111 күн бұрын
  • What a brilliant video

    @cameronbridges912@cameronbridges91211 күн бұрын
  • Geoff Brabham and the Nissan GTP are a part of IMSA's Hall of Fame. 0:52 Someone on the team most be a fan of The Simpsons. Bart Simpson is on the Headlight cover.

    @JohnCharb87@JohnCharb8711 күн бұрын
    • They did a bunch of different art, including the Ghostbusters logo and Jessica Rabbitt.

      @yracpontiferous4846@yracpontiferous48469 күн бұрын
  • your videos are perfect

    @randon_play5547@randon_play554711 күн бұрын
  • Loving the Group C videos now. Crazy how they didn’t clean up the first car, shows why we do it nowadays.

    @dvill2141@dvill21419 күн бұрын
  • I love racing history ❤️

    @Freddy87718@Freddy8771811 күн бұрын
  • That Steve Millen crash at Watkins is a rough watch.

    @yracpontiferous4846@yracpontiferous48469 күн бұрын
  • I absolutely love these videos. I hope that you can do videos rise and fall of Subaru world rally team and Rallirat aka the Mitsubishi world rally team

    @captainsmartass3368@captainsmartass336811 күн бұрын
    • Oh yes we need this! 😋

      @piuthemagicman@piuthemagicman11 күн бұрын
    • It wasn't really a fall, the french just made better cars at that point, causing them to pull out, that and the fact that both Mitsubishi and Subaru were basically bankrupt and would end up in GM and Renault ownership due to the crap road cars they were making.

      @bzilla1090@bzilla109011 күн бұрын
    • ​@@bzilla1090WRC got rid of homology and basically screwed Subaru, Mitsubishi, and Toyota out of the running

      @toddthezondalover645@toddthezondalover64511 күн бұрын
    • @@toddthezondalover645 not really, Peugeot, Citroen, Ford and the rest all used road cars. It's not like they didn't the Impreza WRX STI was a road car so no need for homologation, so you want them to get an edge over the competition?, both companies were bankrupt at this point, GM was also running Subaru into the ground, something they still haven't fully recovered from yet. Also Subaru lost Prodrives input, Dave Richards went full on into F1, without Prodrive they were nothing, they were already getting owned anyway. Toyota shouldn't speak about anything, they have a history of cheating in the WRC. Also another thing, these aren't scrubs they went up against, Peugeot, Renault and Citroen are a lot more accomplished than the Japanese in rallying, they're up there with the kings, Lancia. When it comes to Motorsport, you'll usually find a German or an Italian at the top, it's just how it is

      @bzilla1090@bzilla109011 күн бұрын
  • I was driving the R92CP in apex racer and suddenly KZhead recommended me this 😂 great video tho

    @flameburstgt6503@flameburstgt650311 күн бұрын
  • Amazing ❤

    @SpeedBrazilOficial@SpeedBrazilOficial9 күн бұрын
  • The Porsche and Sauber Mercedes group C cars are the maddest lads of all....

    @exsappermadman25055@exsappermadman2505511 күн бұрын
    • The best by far

      @bzilla1090@bzilla109011 күн бұрын
    • got beaten by 787B

      @MarkWazowski@MarkWazowski10 күн бұрын
    • @@MarkWazowski Once...

      @exsappermadman25055@exsappermadman2505510 күн бұрын
  • Yess on other good automotive story that nissan is beautiful 🎉🎉🎉great job

    @jay_cars_story@jay_cars_story11 күн бұрын
  • Idea for a future vid, Venturi and the rise of GT1, something like that, to cover BPR etc....after the death of Group C. edit: Your vids are amazing, I really enjoy watching them, I'm a listener normally but I watch your vids, thank you and keep up the amazing work.

    @azura_2437@azura_24377 күн бұрын
  • R91CP: *Almost killed their drivers* Nissan: "Lets make something better next year." R92CP: *Became a mythical car that claimed "400" down the Fuji straight*

    @alexhndr@alexhndr11 күн бұрын
  • 8:29 I died when he said this

    @WorldEngine64@WorldEngine6411 күн бұрын
  • R91cp is cool but I like the R92cp more what are your thoughts

    @jeremiah8002@jeremiah800211 күн бұрын
  • 10:27 on the podium with a cigarette… times sure were different back then!

    @bloomazda3@bloomazda310 күн бұрын
  • The r30 silhouette will always be my 2nd fav car in gran turismo 2. I still call it the foumula as it was misspelled in game lol. Actually faster than the gt one on a couple tracks

    @plisskenationbackfromthede3657@plisskenationbackfromthede365711 күн бұрын
  • Nissan did actually build a one-off 3.5L F1-sourced V12 powered Group C car called the NP35 to be used in the WSC for 1993 until Nissan cancelled the project

    @AdamTheMan1993@AdamTheMan199310 күн бұрын
  • Nissans in IMSA had a habit of nasty crashes. Similar blowouts at Road Atlanta caused huge incidents. And John Morton pulled a CLR at Lime Rock, going straight into the trees.

    @yracpontiferous4846@yracpontiferous48469 күн бұрын
    • Not to mention btcc in the 90s

      @roelandzw1846@roelandzw18468 күн бұрын
  • What about the Nissan NP-35?

    @Chr.Monika6469@Chr.Monika646910 күн бұрын
  • Group C cars were so dangerously beautiful

    @user-sl4hx8vs9w@user-sl4hx8vs9w10 күн бұрын
  • the toyota locking up after the nissan flips💀

    @redlineplays@redlineplays8 күн бұрын
  • HE WENT KABOOM

    @flashthefalcon948@flashthefalcon94811 күн бұрын
  • 1:36 Is it just me or is it strange why the car behind spin out too?

    @Sennheiserman@Sennheiserman9 күн бұрын
  • That crash looked just like guanyu zhous

    @lewisgilbertson7506@lewisgilbertson750611 күн бұрын
  • Why am I hearing thi music? What does it have to do with driving any type of car?

    @JeffSherlock@JeffSherlock10 күн бұрын
  • i dunno the 1985 Riverside crash from a tire blow out to the pit wall was pretty bad and worst

    @cool3865@cool38659 күн бұрын
  • Group C rocks, should have teamed up with Can Am lol

    @Picks_Productions@Picks_Productions5 күн бұрын
  • um narrator, the wing was turned 180deg so it lifted instead of pressing.

    @petedude2lu3@petedude2lu317 сағат бұрын
  • 18:42 i see what nissans goal was back there 🤨🤨🤨🤨

    @fourty9933@fourty993311 күн бұрын
  • 9:39 What is that green car? 😮

    @fairyliquid6864@fairyliquid68649 күн бұрын
    • It's probably a Toyota Celica, I could be wrong.

      @ApexLegends2@ApexLegends27 күн бұрын
  • What's up with the "Group C" moniker and insanity on four wheels? The world Rally championship circuit had a class by the same name in the 1980s that was so ridiculously overpowered that it was quite short lived, only existing for I believe a couple of seasons at most. It's miraculous that the spike in crashes and fatalities wasn't even more severe, given that a lot of Rally fans are/were seemingly tired of living, literally swarming all over the the entire width of whatever road the race was being run on and only parting like the Red Sea for Moses when a car came through, often well over 100 MPH, usually only missing the dumbest spectators by inches and sometimes not at all. I hope/assume that in the (at time overly) safety conscious world we're living in now, the lunacy of spectators on the racing surface and other idiotic vantage points like on the outside of high speed turns with nothing but air between their bodies and thousands of pounds of race car speeding by, often sideways, is mostly a thing of the past.

    @ClusterFugue@ClusterFugue10 күн бұрын
    • We know, it was the Group B

      @Chr.Monika6469@Chr.Monika646910 күн бұрын
  • wsg guys

    @window469wow3@window469wow311 күн бұрын
  • Something I don't understand, why would the FIA not like Group C being popular? I'm sorry I'm not familiar with most racing leagues outside of the US and Japan.

    @r.u.s.e3586@r.u.s.e358611 күн бұрын
    • Because they didn't want it faster & more exciting than F1...

      @LurcherVonPapsmear@LurcherVonPapsmear11 күн бұрын
    • ​​​@@LurcherVonPapsmearI don't understand why they would care. If they are both under the purview of the FIA why would they want to favor one over the other?

      @r.u.s.e3586@r.u.s.e358611 күн бұрын
    • @@r.u.s.e3586 - I suggest you read 'Bernie's Game' 😉

      @LurcherVonPapsmear@LurcherVonPapsmear11 күн бұрын
    • Bernie Ecclestone didn't want another motorsport to be more popular than F1.

      @Chr.Monika6469@Chr.Monika646910 күн бұрын
    • ​@@LurcherVonPapsmearthank you!

      @r.u.s.e3586@r.u.s.e358610 күн бұрын
  • Good video, cool cokehead glasses👍

    @KeijoKurkkuGaming@KeijoKurkkuGaming11 күн бұрын
  • Damn dont bother strapping in you will be jumping out soon.

    @311superfly@311superfly6 күн бұрын
  • The GT-R at 5:00 looks like an R/C car

    @vnitto@vnitto11 күн бұрын
  • Hunter S Potter

    @Joe2328@Joe23287 күн бұрын
  • Electromotive. California USA. Millen. Brabham.

    @311superfly@311superfly6 күн бұрын
  • @samikaipainen8616@samikaipainen861611 күн бұрын
  • Firstttt

    @thelegacyTYT@thelegacyTYT11 күн бұрын
  • 1st

    @donmcmahan2920@donmcmahan292011 күн бұрын
  • What about John Morton’s blow over at Lime Rock? That nearly burned him to death.

    @Commander-McBragg@Commander-McBragg11 күн бұрын
  • The road needs docile cars, circuits need crazy cars. Sports cars don't belong in the streets.

    @andredeketeleastutecomplex@andredeketeleastutecomplex11 күн бұрын
    • Wrong. Like any sane person I have no troubles following traffic laws with a pure bred sportscar.

      @Mike_858@Mike_85811 күн бұрын
  • 2:20 "Motorsport isn't rational." I totally disagree. We started racing because we wanted to see how fast the car can go. It makes perfect sense to test the performance capabilities of our technology. Motorsports is about the technology in the car, not the driver. The more we focus on the driver, the less logical motorsport becomes.

    @robertkerr4199@robertkerr419911 күн бұрын
    • All modern racing series are governed by rules designed to provide better entertainment. Machines made to test the limits of our automotive technology exist, and you're right that it can make sense to build them, but they don't race against each other, they exist in test facilities, closed circuits and occasionally on salt flats haha. Motorsport isn't very rational, that doesn't mean it isn't subjectively valuable though (and it does occasionally provide technology that trickles down).

      @automobilistic@automobilistic11 күн бұрын
    • We?? Who do you think your are Norbert Singer??. lmao 🤣 😂

      @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo11 күн бұрын
  • Call me a cynic but given the two reasons you just laid out I think greed alway$ wins the day unfortunately. See that's why we can't have nice things. Including Democracy over Oligarchy. Yeah your 2nd reason for the engine restrictions.

    @paxwallace8324@paxwallace83245 күн бұрын
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