TV journalist documents wild ride inside Waymo self-driving car in San Francisco
2023 ж. 28 Мау.
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Ever wonder what it's like to ride in a robo taxi? Watch as ABC7 News reporter Lyanne Melendez takes a wild ride inside a self-driving Waymo car in San Francisco. Full report here: abc7ne.ws/439IDjM
#selfdrivingcars #waymo #robotaxi #abc7news
Just glad the driver had his seatbelt on
lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
LOL yes and he's invisible too
@@tonychu2 John Cena driving Uber these days.
So technically she got a depressed Robocar trying to drive her to the graveyard.
The fact that this is actually real and on streets is actually insane!
Very insane. Basically iRobot level autonomous driving.
Why? So far behind where we should be.
@@jdwilliams6526I honestly agree technology development slowed down from 2010 to now
@@tubesurfer777-el8vlhave you seen the fast food robots 😂they gone wipeout a whole lot of jobs with robots.
@@brooklynluckytelevisionmov4384no more taxi drivers
"Hey boss ill be late, my self driving uber took me hostage" 😂
@@SigFigNewton true 👍 not sure we have waymo in my town but ive seen a ton of self driving cars in my area from all the different car brands that are testing them. Its crazy to think no one will be driving eventually. Maybe not until another 30 years will we probably see it normalized everywhere. Oh and flying cars lol
Free the hostiges
Imagine if something happened to your credit card after you got in one of these things and it locks you in until you negotiate with your bank.
It reminds me of riding with my grandpa just before we had him committed. Well, in this case, it's the passenger that would be shouting the four letter words and not a 86yo man with dementia.
It must have thought you were one of those jailed J6 losers? 😂
There DEFINITELY needs to be a big button in the back seat, for customers to press to speak to operators.
There is
@@jamesguizar3365 Good. Glad I could help!
@@jamesguizar3365 More like A BIG BUTTON to stop the car for you to GET OUT. This is about as useful as the batteries in Tesla cars when they go ON FIRE.
On the old waymos there used to be
or an eject button that throws u out the vehicle
"The doors will remain locked for your safety" is no one scared by this?
yea thats terrifying
So techniclly she got a depressed Robocar trying to drive her to the graveyard.
A hacker can take her somewhere.
That sounds like a quote from i.Robot
Yes ... WTF?!? 😮
It picked you up in the wrong spot, dangerously stopped at a green light and tried to drop you off a 5 minute uphill walk from your destination (which was on a dead end street, perhaps that was the issue?) Why they license them to drive all over the city is ridiculous. Thanks for this report.
Yeah, and there's a real danger to people getting dropped off at the wrong place _at night._ Not to mention all of the other failures. DOA.
That’s the best way to charge you as much as possible. Lol
So basically a better experience than Uber nowadays. 🙂
This is likely the result of cut and paste code monkeys using gpt to code for them.
Ppl be stealing the cameras, sensors, other tech in no time. Stripped clean. All you need is an EMP or signal jammers & they do work like a charm. Doesn’t even need to military grade. A hammer to the cameras will do the trick too.
I saw a near fatal situation happen on Fulton st at 4th ave (going East). As an elderly couple was crossing the street towards the park. They held their hands up to get Cars to stop and several of us stopped on the inside lane. And as they started to walk by our row with their hands up an Autonomous Car went flying by (outside lane by the Park) just missing them. They actually straightened up and gasped. I don’t think it broke the speed limit (30mph) but it definitely did not slow down as it was moving fast. So a heads up, if you think they see you.
На самом деле автономные машины должны работать вместе с дополнительным оборудованием, а это датчики движения, синхронизаторы и многое другое оборудование которое нужно устанавливать на каждом повороте, перекрёстке или пешеходном переходе а так же все машины на дороге должны иметь возможность общаться между собой и собирать данные об обстановке на дороге, тогда это получиться один большой синхронизированный механизм! В данный момент продукт Waymo ещё очень сырой для идеальной эксплуатации, но у них есть очень большой потенциал и они непременно буду заменять водителей, на это просто нужно время. В любом случаии машины значительно уменьшат аварийные случаи на дорогах, когда все это будет работать правильно.
I am ALL FOR turning S.F. into a bicycle friendly town instead. S.F. is being used as a ginny pig to test these things in. That should be the first question as to WHY THERE? I was there a few months back and I thought I was seeing things when I saw cars driving with no drivers at the wheel. I thought maybe I was hallucinating or maybe they were just small drivers I could not see, or just imagining things until a guy who was observing my confusion began to explain to me what was going on. NUTS!
Those old people need an update on their camera sensors prob.
Well they should've used a crosswalk
@@koraegi we don't know if they were or weren't? But that's not the point.
I've never been to California but this lady is exactly what I would expect.
I see autonomous cars causing a lot of road rage incidents.
@@millroyboy07 Unlike the monkeys operating vehicles today. They don't have problems like that.
Her annoyingly repeating “the Randall Museum” rather than just saying “the museum” was quite grating to my ears. It actually sounded a bit pretentious too, but I wouldn’t know if there’d be a reason to be haughty about that other than bragging that her son visited a museum, implying that he’s smart.
@@2011Azure Apes, mot monkeys, but I get where you’re going.
Why
Jesus, I feel just as trapped as her by just watching this video! Imagine experiencing this in real life!
No thanks.
And the fact that the doors were locked as well. I can just imagine a health risk happening. Let’s hope to god there is no self driving ambulances.
It’s so scary, I mean I know we have to test the technology, but man, imagine it just drives u into a river or a car wreck with doors locked.
And after the crash, or while you're drowning: "Thank you for choosing our taxi service! Have a nice day and hope to be of service to you again soon!" @@gabiausten8774
Ive used Waymo One recently in LA and it's great, much better than her experience in this video
The doors are locked for the passenger safety, via the internet? Noooooooo
As if they haven’t learned from all these incidents with Lyft and Uber passengers
@@tailgatecarpenter26 If you need to stop, you can choose "pull over" on the app or the passenger screen. The vehicle will find the next safest place to pull over. While the vehicle is moving, it would be unsafe to open the doors.
why can't they just be locked from the outside (reverse child locking)
What happens if it catches fire?
@@Dusty42096You're toast.
Maybe it knows that most Americans need at LEAST a 5 minute walk 😉😎
Out of all the comments , yours made me laugh...good one.
BAZING
I know you're trying to make a joke, but...not everyone *can* walk five minutes. And if we're paying for a ride (presumably these rides won't always be free because they want to make money), shouldn't we be dropped off at our destination?
@@ckildegaard agreed; and with more guns than people in America the idea of walking is taking a life and death chance
@@davidsherer52oh gee, again one of those America haters. Just so you know California is a cool place to live and guns are very hard to get here and gun laws are very strict here. It is not Texas or the south. Healthiest looking people are here in CA too cuz it's outdoorsy, warm and most people are into sports. California is the most beautiful place in the world, way better than Western Europe, UK or Australia where I lived. You should watch the fake news less and experience the world thru your own eyes more and travel.
I got hit by one of these earlier this week riding my bike. Smh these are dangerous af and need to be removed asap.
Can you elaborate on what happened ? What wrong thing did it do that let you got hit to it ? Was it serious ? Did you report the incident ?
@varunkhare2134 I didn't report it as I should have. It was kinda later in the evening one night, while my supervisor and I were coming from eating. My phone had fallen from my bikes phone mount, so I turned around to get it, and as I was bending over from my bike to pick it up, here came these bright headlights coming at me. As I had just picked the phone up and tried to pull off, the car just plowed towards me, barely missing my entire bike with me on it but end hitting the back end of my bike, knocking me back down to the ground as the car just drives off into the night. Mind you, the car was nowhere in sight as I dropped the phone and turned around for it. It came out of nowhere and wouldn't slow down or gave two shits about me being in the middle of the road. That car was like MOOOVE BITCH GET OUT THE WAY, GET, GET OUT THE WAY!!🤦🏾♂️😂(LUDACRIS)
@@MadamPocketz Thank you for letting me know. Sounds scary and risky. Also like your sense of humor 😃
@MadamPocketz yep, because humans never have accidents
The second that car didn't know what to do on a green light I would be out of that thing. If it doesn't go on a green how do I know it's going to STOP on a RED?
it's probably a lot more cautious, more likely to err on the side of stopping rather than going.
@@travisporco Obviously!
Probably??? Probably???? "It" is "cautious"? Why would you think "it'"s "cautious"?@@travisporco
Emphasis on probably
Emphasis on probably. That car doesn’t have empathy it wont feel bad if it wipes out a line of children walking to school. Robots and AI are essentially sociopaths and the city is allowing them to operate dangerous 2000+ pound machines putting everyones lives at risk.
kinda amusing how the self driving car is wearing its seatbelt haha
I noticed that as well. It’s probably to keep the boinging noise from going off.
If seatbelt was unlocked, it would alert support so that they know someone is doing something they are not supposed to be doing.
So technically she got a depressed Robocar trying to drive her to the graveyard.
Why the CPUC approved these vehicles is absolutely insane.
Greased palms.
@tmo7734 : They say they are ready... let them try... if they are not ready, they will "shoot themselves in the foot". The CPUC can then shut them down, using real examples as evidence. In the meantime, I feel safe on the other side of the planet, and KZhead will provide me many Laugh-filled moments watching the fiasco from afar! 😜
With the right doughnation
It's called money. Someone is getting a big bag of money to approve this.
@@hughdismuke4703 everything isn't a conspiracy involving money. There were lots of people who requested it. It lowers fatalities. These tests are bound to happen.
If only these contraptions worked, we could throw thousands more people out of a job. And each one of these creates a traffic jam wherever it goes. What a shame!
Seems Waymo didn't map "Museum Way" as a street as it is basically, a very long driveway into Randall museum. And it won't go onto driveways.
It will and I have, even showed it in a recent video.
@@tailgatecarpenter26 I can't speak for what happened with her in this video because she does not show the booking process and what she chose in the app. If you have a walk to your destination, the Waymo requires you to confirm first, so she left that out. I have been dropped 20-100 feet from my exact drop-off based on street conditions and the best available spot, but never this. The Waymo Driver will only go where it has extensively mapped. You can see how it drives in the 100+ videos on my channel. I will upload some pickups and drop-offs soon.
@@mayasf The Randall Museum is at the end of Museum Way. The road enters a 70-car parking lot in front of the museum. Perhaps you can book a Waymo ride to the Randall Museum and report your findings.
If she booked it wrong then others most likely will as well. My father in his 70's can't use text when I have seen other 70 year old great with technology. It varies, but if it is complicated then there should be a work around this. There has been a time where I searched for a Ubet ride using the train hoping I can cut down on the wait time ( I was really late for work and took the last half via car) Uber pinged my location on the the train which was a nile away. The driver was kind enough to pick me up from a different location. I don't see driverless cars doing that.
@@RaymondHng Two days after she posted this, @mayasf did book that ride to Randall Museum and get there just fine. Pretty cool.
They need a lot of work on these self driving vehicles before putting them in public
They need to take them all to the junkyard and give up before more people get killed by these emotionless machines.
only one way to gather information, and unfortunately that means putting them out in public so the computer can learn
@@nostralgia3203 They could just gather the information while a human drives the car. Also they could test them simulations.
it doesn't work like that. gathering human information would not benefit a computer in this way. sure it could be fed the human data, but humans are not perfect, we speed, don't fully stop, make unsignaled turns. we wouldn't be the best data for the computer to learn from. the computer has to do the learning, then we humans fine tune it. not humans do the learning and the cpu fine tunes it. just doesn't work like that. @@adrianbergqvist8622
These have been in development since 2009 💀
I'm shocked that they have allowed these cars to be functioning freely like this even if it's under a test scenario because I don't think they are ready at all
They are actually very impressive. They have driven millions if miles already very few incidents
The cars are fine. They’ve had millions of successful trips with very few fatalities and life-altering injuries.
Still better than a lot of actual drivers.
Yes. Having a safety driver would make far more sense. But of course, that would cost more and lobbyists exist for a reason -- and it is NOT to better serve the voters.
Objectively better drivers than most humans.
A five year old in 2075: "You guys won't believe this, but my grandpa has a car that he actually has to drive himself...yeah, no the car doesn't do the driving. Grandpa has to actually hold this big circle and guide the car himself. "
Perhaps, but by 2075 the kids will be speaking Chinese …
@@Clyde-2055 not likely...we Americans still aren't using the metric system...also you expect us to stop speaking English in only 50 years? Even Firefly mixed the two languages instead of having us abandon either one.
@@Clyde-2055 The kids will be speaking Spanish
Maybe it's better if everyone is mute by 2075. Too much talking and complaining
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The Randall Museum is at the dead end of Museum Way. The Waymo vehicle did not drive down into Museum Way. Instead, it took a right turn on Lavant Street and left on State Street which is parallel to Museum Way.
Maybe because it doesn't know how to do U-turns...
Exactly. That location is really difficult to get to if you don't know exactly how to get there.
@@ReneRivers Google Maps easily routes driving directions down Museum Way. But Waymo vehicles are not programmed to use that route.
@@bigbigdog Museum Way goes into a 70-car parking lot. There is no need to do a U-turn.
@@ReneRivers not difficult at all. The cars are programmed by people who don’t know how to drive.
I drove several engineers for these vehicles pre-pandemic and after they told me I would be out of a job because of their self-driving cars. I politely said (which was experienced in this video) “If you use GPS, no I won’t. As it’s incorrect over 30% of the time”. “I have to call, go off of knowledge of the City or use Common Sense most of the time”. I would tell customers “I’m not following the GPS, it’s wrong” or they would tell me do not follow the GPS either (obviously, experiencing this before with the GPS). Also Airport rides (with luggage), people that need assistance, lost phones, wrong destinations or “can you pull all the way up, please” rides, will be a challenge. I told them a bus route would work best (exact stops). They had no comment after that, and now we are here, lol.
Yeah, I suspect these are going to be cheaper but clearly inferior for at least half a dozen years. Some people will choose them to save money like they did shared Ubers, but a lot will still want a human driver for luggage help and for a more seamless experience. And even when routing is perfect, the disabled, those with luggage, etc. will still probably want a human so it won't mean the end of drivers, just a reduction.
And really, even 20’ from the intended spot is a fail for many reasons. Raining, big hill, traffic, terrain, disability and more can make even being close, not close enough.
Not to mention concerts, sporting events and bar rushes where traffic rules pretty much go out the window. You sometimes have to shift into the opposing lane to go around taxis and Ubers waiting for pickups. There's a ton of situations that require a human to use common sense. Or the case where a light isn't working and there's a traffic cop manually directing the flow. They can't read random hand signals and waving. Or what happens when a passenger pukes in a vehicle, how would the car know it needs to be cleaned? Or what happens when renegades start causing trouble by shooting paintballs at the sensors? 🤔 Or what happens when a drunk passenger starts messing with the steering wheel, or hops in the drivers seat and starts hitting the gas and brakes?
If the tech billionaires (Tesla,Google, ...) want to make it driverless they will make it happen it's just a matter of time. According to Morse law technology grows exponentially.
At least you tried? 🤷♀️
I've seen and heard from people who used Waymo cars where it worked really well, but at the same time, we've all seen what happens when Waymo DOESN'T work. Not only can it be inconvenient, but it can also be really dangerous. I don't think this is ready for the road just yet unless more testing is done!
You're right. Unmanned self-driving cars are not ready for public streets yet. I just witnessed a Waymo car steer right into another car like it wasn't even there. The incident is going to be in my next video.
@@ryanedwards805👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
That was just one test amongst many to go. Today society sounds like 'are we there yet? 😂
It's still learning
Had a funny Autonomous Car situation happen the other day. Driving up Courtland (Bernal Heights) an A/C in front of me was trying to turn on the same street (Nevada?) but they were doing construction on it between Courland & Powhattan. So a worker with one of those Stop/Slow signs was trying to get the A/C to stop (by holding the sign in front of it). But it kept creeping closer towards him as he kept waving the Stop sign at it. He was getting mad and tapped the A/C but it kept creeping forward. So he looked at me and pointed (with the sign) to take the next street right then the A/C quickly tried to go around him and he jumped in front of it. I drove off laughing but when I came back about 10 minutes later on Powhattan I could see the A/C still there on Courtland, LMAO.
The construction worker should have grabbed a cone and put it on the hood. Perhaps in the future he'll have a cone clipped to his belt in case he has to get an A/C to stop
Yeah, they definitely need a better system with construction and temporarily blocked roads. I ride waymo pretty regularly in AZ and I've had similar experiences to this. One morning, a construction worker was using hand signals to tell the car to stop, it crept forward and went around him. Thankfully there was nothing dangerous ahead. More recently though, a road was blocked off with a do not enter sign and the car successfully made a 3pt turn and rerouted. There are just so many situations on the road and I feel like in a couple years this technology will have a better handle on things. I will say, I never feel unsafe in the waymo and with the sheer granularity of the mapping you see on the screen, the radar sees everything down to pedestrians on the sidewalk in detail and in real time.
What makes u choose waymo over uber/lyft/etc? is it cheaper? faster? does it actually lock u in and prevent u from getting out whenever u want?@@michaelfrench8222
That’s freakin hilarious, I’m laughing while reading this 😂😂
Have enough problems with cell phones GPS, this is beyond insane.
Same
How soon it will be the norm...no one knows...but it definitely will be the future.
@@mikegrindstaff I'm still waiting for the flying cars we were told when I was a kid.
@@scrappy7571that’s almost inconceivable, with self driving cars it’s already a reality just needs to get better
@ran160 Flying cars would need to be automated for very many people to use them close together I think
waymo has been trying to get this thing to work for over a decade. I remember the CEO saying his kids will never have to learn to how to drive, and they were gonna turn 16 in 4 years. That was in 2014
I bet he's driving a Tesla 😂😂
That is most dumbest I ever heard from a CEO
His kids are homebound, can't go anywhere.
@@dianasalazar4488oh god, Tesla is a wonderful car and most Tesla drivers are better than you I bet
They got it to work, you can use it yourself. "Our Waymo One ride-hailing service operates in Metro Phoenix, San Francisco, and is ramping up in Los Angeles County and Austin, Texas."
I've said it before, I'll say it again: I'll never be on board with driverless vehicles.
The problem with self driving cars is that private companies have limited budgets to succeed with. This means they need to have a working product within a certain time frame, or all will be lost. This is concerning, because it could mean that they cut corners or rush their service.
This is just another thing to get hacked and someone will drive you off the road. Trust me I work in tech. Never get in a self driving car if you value your life.
For reals
People were saying the same thing about elevators xD today if you saw someone driving elevator you would be supprised like "what are they doing here?"
lol 🤣 "Our team is working to get you moving" - looks like somebody monitoring you from a control center. "Honey! press that reset route button.."
If the vehicle becomes confused...it waits to be told what to do by a "team member"
What a disaster. Interesting that Google did this WAY before their system works and then KZhead kept this video up.
Hey, here's an interesting shift for the Waymo business model. What if the self-driving capabilities are solely for getting the car to you. It is then up to you to drive the car yourself to your destination.
Or they could let the customer override the self driving mode like in iRobot. I think some people would rather chill in the back also. But it could be cool to have both options.
Just get a regular liscensed driver and make him earn the bread smh . This doesn't benefit society at all. Making these rich companies even richer. No benefit whatsoever
@@kojac40 by the same logic, elevators shouldn't be self-service anymore and instead there should be an elevator operator who is paid to push the button for you.
@@ASDFCH vanna white was nice to have on wheel of fortune but she wasn't necessary after the letters were digital
@@trixie9867 And yet she still earns a pretty good check... All fine and well until a digital letter doesn't turn in front of an audience when you need it to.
I drive for Uber and Lyft in San Francisco. I've seen these things puttering around for a couple years now, they used to have 2 drivers in front seats🤷🏻♂️ and only recently did they go full driverless. Well anyway, i had my first ,(i want to say face to face, but it's not) we were both sitting at an intersection with standard green light(no dedicated left turn arrow) in such cases i usually allow the other driver to begin their turn first by flashing my high beams or giving them the"go ahead" hand signal. Not having any way to signal the autonomous car, we both sat there a minute until i initiated my turn at which point the other car begins to mirror me, i see him start to move (which made me uneasy) so i stopped so he stopped, i began to move again and so did he(very unnerving). Would i ever? Even for free? No thanks Waymo, I'll pass
Why would you wait for someone else to turn left? Or, am I reading that wrong?
@@mvpfocusif they arrived a second or 2 before you do, then they have the right of way.
@@BoltRM That doesn't make any sense. First of all, a "standard green light" is green for straight through traffic and right turns. Left turns always yield, unless and until they get a green arrow. But there would be no reason to yield to an oncoming left turn, other than possibly low visibility.
@@mvpfocus That's true, I didn't read the part about both having green lights
Human nuance, human nuance, human nuance - can NEVER be replaced by a machine no matter how advanced the chips are or how polished is the software 😊
Australian here. I was in Phoenix last week and used Waymo four times all with perfect outcomes. I felt very safe - probably safer than with a human driver. I love it. I wish we had it here in Canberra Australia.
You're in a Johnny Cab! 😂
You should show your selections on the app
So what about fire sirens or police sirens? Do they stop for that?
The route problem is certainly solvable - with either an app or a screen in the back where they provide a map with the suggested route(s) and customer has to confirm before the trip starts. Not driving when it's green causes a hazard and also road rage with others; that's an absurd problem that should not exist at this stage where such cars are on the streets.
This BS will be a DISASTER.
@@ryanedwards805 obviously the car isn't going to rage.... he means the people stuck behind the stupid car parked at a green light.
I'm guessing the green issue was some kind of failsafe. Something was a bit off and therefore it decided to stop and wait for further instructions rather than risk a dangerous move. But I agree that this technology is not mature enough to be on public roads, at least not without a passive driver to take over when the car can't go any further.
@@dijikstra8 AI is already more intelligent than humans, self drive cars are the safest form of transport.
Some people can’t use a map in the way you describe. Actually a lot of people can’t.
There’s no substitute for the human rationale that can “override “(pardon the pun) mechanical and technological glitches.
How long until someone hacks these things and redirects people to a remote location and takes them hostage or worse? Can we not see that the more digital we go, the more vulnerable we are to being hacked? If no one supports these endeavours, they will disappear. Look at how many jobs will be lost as well. So many negatives and no positives.
Incorrect
Right hand turns work. You simply have to drive around the world once to arrive at your destination.
I'm scared for anyone. Do yourself a favor. Don't ride in one.
This lady is full of it
Curious how much of this was user error. Seems like she indicated the application mentioned the 5 minute walk and the technician may have been trying to walk her through how to change it, but from the clip she seemed disinterested in supports instructions and was just frustrated and just said " I am just going to select it again and "Hope for the best".....". My hot take.
Well, I like the idea of being the conductor of a self-driving car, but not eliminating the person in charge of where it's going altogether. A person should be sitting there for troubleshooting problems.
Which defeats the purpose of self driving cars if you are replacing a slave wage driver with a multi-discipline engineer...
Maybe an ai that can troubleshoot the self driving ai lol
INCOMPETENCE! BAN IT!
No friggin way would I get in a driverless car
You need to undo the drivers seatbelt and get out and walk. Let them figure out how to get it ;)
Why do I need a license to do what a machine does poorly without a license? The answer is CONTROL of the people.
You have an abrasive personality.
The point is that about 30 000 people die in the USA each year on the road, so something has to be done. I do not know if autonomous cars are the solution, my point of view is no cars at all at least in cities, but I live in Europe and I understand it may not be possible in the US. Another issue is the fact that owning a car in a huge part of the budget for many people, money that can be used for better food, better housing, less work, etc.
Those things are so clearly not ready to do the job. They drive in the most bizarre fashion, whenever i am around one of those, i am hypervigilante because i know it will do something random at any moment. I absolutely hate those.
Why would anyone in their right mind get into an unsafe situation like this???
@@ryanedwards805 Nah 😄 I'll take annoying drivers over my safety being in danger
@@-PureLove- AV is the safest form of transport though my brother!
@@ryanedwards805 I work in IT and I know it is an extremely unsafe form of transport. And I am a sister
@@ryanedwards805the thing is that AV companies are making claims that self driving cars don't make same mistakes as humans and naturally concluding that they are safer. And while thing about these mistakes is true, the thing that they don't say is that self driving cars make other completely dumb mistakes, that no human driver would make. Like the incident with green light here.
@@SigFigNewton Yeah when compared to idiot human drivers they may appear safer. But I won't get in the car with either one
It sems that this TV journalist was not very professional or tech savvy. Did she do her research before embarking on this trip? Other outlets have reported different outcomes.
Bro imagine being on hold for tech support for your taxi leaving you stranded
Girlfriend, that car is TERRIFYING! I didn't hear anything past, "These doors are going to be lock once we get there."
Not ready for prime time!
My Tesla "Full Self Driving" goes too slow and stops unexpectedly. Last night my car stopped at a green light and someone honked at us. I was lucky I was not hit by an impatient driver. Now I don't even feel safe letting it drive itself while I'm sitting there ready to take control.
This is real 90s infomercial of reporting 😂
This is one of those technologies that has been 5 years out for the last 30 years.
@ryanedwards805 They should stop working on this tech because its doomed from the start. These taxi companies will be sued into oblivion every time one of their robots kills someone.
@@ryanedwards805exactly
It’s public facing now in multiple cities, bit beyond that stage now
Yeah, I was pretty alarmed to see the commercials. I’m surprised you’d agree to bring your child into this. The tech is far from ready
Waymos have a tendency to freeze up when other Waymos are nearby.
What’s missing is an interface for passengers to talk to the “AI” to give it directions. It’s not hard, voice recognition tech is already here (Siri, Google etc).
There should be more company interaction with the public to explain these things. Truth is, there are DMZ areas in the city where the cars don't go or are not cleared to go. The cars continually are getting better. Letting them know these diverse problems in feedback lets the engineers know what they need to concentrate on. Also, lumping all autonomous vehicles in one basket isn't fair or correct. Waymo has been working on robotaxis much longer than the other companies. Cruise is a different company and is now currently prevented from operating until the DMV decides to okay it.
Ok so the self driving car immediately started with a problem and you still got in. You got balls lady.
Yeah, it shouldn't be long before the passenger can speak to the car to give custom directions/turns or speak/enter into the app to tell it if it has the wrong pickup point & tag the correction. They could even have an override on the touch screen where it shows the planned route and the passenger can touch the screen to make changes to the planned route. This stuff shouldn't be hard to fix.
it would be a lot easier to fix if we just valued our fellow humans enough to be content with them driving the taxi, and that doesn't even speak to the fact that the humans can already do a better job
@@andrewroberts7428 I understand your point, but there are two main reasons this won't solve the problem. First, the long term hope for AI driving is that they may become significantly safer than human drivers and cut traffic accidents to a small fraction of the annual 40,000ish deaths per year (valuing the human). Second, there are market forces at work that will likely make AI vehicles a more economic choice for both consumers and providers of driving services. The big question economically is whether or not there will be so many jobs replaced by AI in the coming decades that we will need to implement an Andrew Yang style universal income.
In Austin, Cruise cars do nothing but cause massive traffic jams every weekend.
In Arizona a guy filmed his trip and the taxi got stuck at a road construction site and had to wait 40 minutes for a driver to be sent:
It would be ultra easy for a hacker to hijack the ride and take a remote controlled joy ride all over town.
Needs another 3-4 years. Its just not quite there yet.
I thought she was saying "Random museum" the whole time until I saw the sign at the end haha
I felt sorry for the car when it pulled up at the wrong place. ! 🙄
It pulled up in the exact place it meant to. The lady needed to be paying attention to her app which would have told her exactly where to be.
@@agildehausI don't think you watched the whole vid properly. The car did not arrive where it had to arrive and dropping someone off 5 mins away from the destination isn't cool. The lady did put the exact dropoff location into the app and the car failed. Watch the video !
New tech always gets mocked. Way to go Waymo 👏
When have we collectively as a society become too FN lazy to drive our own cars FFS??? This shit is absolutely mind-boggling. Technology 🤔
What kind of driving test do driverless car have to take? If a person drove as bad as a driverless car then they would not be allowed a drivers license.
How much more technology do we actually need?? This new idea of what life is becoming is insane
Bet they said the same thing back then when the first set of steam/diesel engines where exploding. What about when home Pc first hit the market… everyone laughed at it.
I love it
that technology made life significantly better for everyone. this technology can only ever make life minutely better for average people, while actually making it worse for a lot of people and benefiting massive corporations@@BulletBoyGaming
@@BulletBoyGamingthere’s this thing called “diminishing returns” Yes tech have upended human lives in the last two centuries, cause what it actually did was giving people necessary benefits in general, not only the corporations behind. Driverless cars like these are not one of them. What benefit does it do really? Unless we’re just a lazy person who doesn’t want to drive. Would everything be more productive and efficieny with driverless cara?
lol believe it or not, that’s what people said about electricity when it was time to convert from kerosene. Would you prefer kerosene over electricity today?
I make complete stops.
Sure am glad the "non-driver" was buckled in.
This is a major safety issue!! What if someone slammed into the back of the car at the green light? I saw videos of them abruptly stopping in the middle of the street, in the middle of intersections. I saw where one was hit by a fire truck who was going to a fire. People are playing with their lives using these cars.
Yes a regular yellow cab would have been faster.
5 years later she’s back “wow this experience is way so much better I like this!” 😂
Call me old fashioned but I'd never trust my life to a driverless car on city streets. I see way too much risk.
This woman had no idea what she was doing, wouldn’t be surprised if the locations she selected on the map were the ones the car was going to and she just pretended the car was going the wrong way. A autonomous vehicle doing the wrong thing is far more interesting than one doing what it’s supposed to do.
What amazes me is that it's not even considered annoying that this robo-taxi basically double parks waiting to pick up it's passenger, and waiting for the passenger to enter their destination, hindering traffic for several minutes before it could get going. Double parking like that is illegal in many places including my country. On top of that in for example Europe or many Asian cities, streets are so narrow that that car would have been completely blocking the street for several minutes while waiting to get going like this. That would simply be unacceptable in many situations, dangerous, AND illegal. And it would be immensely frustrating and stressful for the passenger, and immensely frustrating and annoying for the drivers stuck behind this robo-taxi just standing there waiting. Keep in mind this test was done in the USA, a country BUILT for cars. Even San Francisco is completely and utterly given over to and adapted to cars first, and everything else second. And even there these robo-taxis can barely function autonomously. In European cities (and many others in the world like for example Japan) with narrow streets, complex intersections and traffic layouts, constant interactions with pedestrians, cyclists, trams etc., tons of slow speed traffic calmed streets shared with pedestrians and cyclists, pedestrianised areas everywhere, and so on and so on, robo-taxis will have an even harder time functioning "normally" without becoming major hindrance and annoyance nearly constantly. So no. IMHO Robot taxis are not coming soon. Just like FSD is not coming soon. The environment is just too complex for narrow AI to cope with.
That might be a San Francisco thing. Other parts of the US guaranteed to have pissed off drivers being blocked by a stopped car much less one without a driver.
sf has many narrow streets as well
The double parking is litteraly shutting major streets down. Add to the the endless uber drivers doubke parking and running in and out of homes and businesses to work and its litteraly shutting the streets down more and more by the day. Its terrible for the other businesses non food related etc that are trying to conduct business plus peolle trying to get to work
@johan You’re delusional buddy.
So ... basically SF.
This confirms what I’ve been saying about these driverless vehicles. They should never be 100% automated. What if there was a reckless driver? The car isn’t going to be able to make proper adjustments for that. It can’t even go when the light turns green!!
When all the cars are automated it won't matter. The cars will have sensors and be able to coordinate with each other like a swarm of drones.
@@bluecafe509 i don't think that's a very good solution, cars aren't all going to be replaced with automated versions at the snap of a finger
There’s plenty videos of this car working as it should one video proves nothing
@@bluecafe509 Problem does not rise with swarm car communication, it arises with basic traffic rules, pattern detection, staying on the correct lane.
Rampant user error. Some people don’t do well with technology.
Some technology isnt well done.
South Korea is close to introducing their own model in Seoul. No fucking way I’ll be using that mate.
This would be great if it worked, because on days you don’t want to drive it would be wonderful! I guess in time, but like with everything, if the power/internet goes nuts? Also, do they check the cars between passengers? What if someone upchucks before picking you up???
I think they came up with a route they knew the taxi would struggle with... I think of more concern to me would be a the fact that taxi's like this will likely have no idea regarding "no go areas" as in no social awareness... I don't want to get into a taxi and be driven through a ghetto on the way to my destination bc it was the most direct route.... has anyone tested this?
Just wait until Waymo outsources their tech support to India, to save the company money!
They gone hav to consult the aliens if they want that to operate efficiently anytime soon 🤣
Yes there needs to be communication with "a driver" of some sort. Eventually these will drive better than people.
Yep. That's were AI would come in handy. Give the AI a piece of your mind, and maybe it'll snap to it!
@@mvpfocus Facial recognition and gesture identification = already exists
If there were only robo taxis on the street, it may actually work. But the fact is there isn't and only human drivers can make evasive moves that at the same time
Self driving is ridiculous and dangerous
Technology will improve. We need to have more patience. But stopping on a green signal was absurd. It's dangerous too.
This is the same thing some uber drivers experience. It's the g p s. When I drove Uber, sometimes it would take me behind addresses where there was a fence and no way for the person to get to my car once I realized what was happening. I would have to drive around to the front if I knew exactly where they were or even call the person and ask where they were and try to explain to them about the GPS. But nobody wants to hear that.
Once this infrastructure is built out it will be pretty useful.
I almost T-Boned a Waymo van while driving a fully loaded City Bus in Tempe. These designers really need to upgrade the software to see oncoming traffic while making left turns on green.
She was very fortunate, because she survived that ride.
exactly
The expectation of consumers is always going to be high, and people tend to complain more than try to understand the absurd difficulty in achieving complicated tasks, like driverless cars. Twenty years ago, this technology would have been considered a mission impossible. Frankly, I find that a great deal of progress has been made in this industry and that we are now at a point of mission very difficult. When very difficult problems (like this one) are responsibly developed to make them better, we get to a mission possible phase and hopefully to a point where they become safe, efficient and practical. Just about anything I can think of that humans have ever developed, have been a little rough at the beginning but gradually improved over time. I believe that this technology will be no exception. The ABC7 reporter mentions at the 4:00 point in this video, "...what if it had been a disabled person", "...on crutches or in a wheelchair...". I suppose that is a good argument, if you completely ignore the fact that driverless vehicles (used as taxis) are extremely early in the development cycle. My point being, it's easy to talk about the things that are not perfect, because it's an easy thing to do. I for one, have confidence in engineers, scientist and other very smart support people to gradually work out the problems we are now encountering with this and other technologies. Just like almost anything else that has ever been invented. An example being. the extraordinary, mind-blowing progress in the medical field. Considering just a few generations ago, we literally bled people to death trying to make them better, because medical care was a relatively undeveloped. Looking forward to the future is very enjoyable to me, my family and the people I regularly associate with. For me, technology is a part of that. Thank you for listening, Mark Nicholson Former, US Army - (1980's) EFMB, Combat Medical Specialist