Wolfram Physics Project: A Discussion with Fay Dowker
Fay Dowker joins Stephen Wolfram, Jonathan Gorard and Max Piskunov for a Wolfram Physics Project discussion. Begins at 1:47
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I am a fan of Fay Dowker.
Having Fay there to talk through the applicability of this framework was super helpful to me. She is somehow really good at keeping the perspective of the conversation grounded such that the questions that are asked are the most relevant and fundamental.
OK OK OK !!!- am I the only 60 year old on here who has NO IDEA about any of this but has falling in love with this POETRY !!! I've played this twice through its truly amazing!!! I produce music events for young people - I will incorporate the sound from this video into EDM tracks. This video demonstrates just how intense, beautiful, and connected we are to the infinite wonders of God and the universe. Thank you FAY, Steohen, Jonothan, and Max.
Big fan, love watching, please try to let the other people finish working through their thoughts even if you know what they are going to say. Keep up the good work, cheers
Thank you again Fay, Max, Jonathan, all. This was such a great working session. Each time I watch I'm going over sections and pulling up papers. There is much in common in terms of perspective/method in both of your work except the temporal dimension really. It seems to me that Fay method essentially maps a slice of your causal graphs and then the flows between elements giving a more subjective view in a way than your temporally oriented method which gives a view that creates creation (a beginning point) and also gives a Godlike overview of past states. Her model essentially is NOW, the future is whatever we are next. Though I couldn't get whether there is a vector in her graph so that she can project a reverse computation so to speak. What are the places we could have been that brought us to this present state? The way I see it Now! has no true past as each particle in it's present nature carries all that it needs to move forward. Infinitely parallel which is why I'd suspect that the rule of universe must be able to handle any input and self regulate for continuance. Eventually the universe will be in all states that are possible as long as it's a finite set. The universe crashes if you find the right moment? I hope not. p.s. for comics geeks Is that the situation of a particle that not only can't exist itself but in it's communication to local particles cascades them not existing like a fusion explosion only it causes their states to be impossible and they blink out of existence.
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The one key for me was spoken about by Dr Wolfram right at the start: No coordinates in the Subspace! Everything is a spatial hyper graph! It really requires a change of perspective from the view of space-time we all are taught... Causal sets are a struggle for me. Like a rabbit hole emerging from the spatial hyper graph. Plus the updates that follow the hyper graphs I find themselves an incredible leap in thinking!
Wolfram, as a communication and collaboration tool is brilliant for this sort of learning conversation through example. For all to come to a similar understanding of each other's areas.
Very interesting discussion! You should speak with Renate Loll next time!
" The technical statement is: energy corresponds to the flux of causal edges through spacelike hypersurfaces. And, by the way, momentum corresponds to the flux of causal edges through timelike hypersurfaces."
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Fay is amazing!!! I also admire Max and Jonathon for being able to take NKS to its next logical step!!! And of course Wolfram is the BOSS ))))
All jokes aside this is excellent for regaining strength when going through a rough time. Stay strong head up, eyes forward.
2:52:00 THIS! This is the evidence of convolution/texture/density being the thing that pushes a BH. Matter is condensed energy, condensed information, when you have a certain density of information you must push the oligons to a reset state. Like what if a particle is receiving so much information, across every single one of it's parameters. How does it choose? There needs to be empty slot to move the tile to. Usually there are lots but in BH the density means that every particle is overstimulated to the point of breakdown/reset. AND THE BIG BANG NEVER HAPPENED IN A TIME WAY, IT IS A CONTINUOUS PROCESS. IT IS THE WHITE HOLE TO ALL THE BLACK HOLES.
From my understanding, the causal set theory Fay Dowker is talking about is mutch deeper and more fondamental than the hypergraphes theory.
5:36 Fay talking about making a present moment finite sum for path integral makes me think of Riemann creating any number from fractional series. You are a number, you interact (an operation is performed on you) and now you are future you. Each future component smaller than the previous as future events are a smaller part of our history line.
you mean because their influence is 'diluted' by expansion?
@hobomatic diluted by time ? 1+1/2+1/4+1/8+..... each moment a smaller fraction. The present moment forefront.
For the last few days I woke up with this channel playing. i have no clue why or how, my brain is not even remotely strong enough for this level of theoretics. Very cool regardless, but yeah. GL
I am a big fan of causal set graphs and of Faye Dowker and her deep understanding of CSG as well as her deep understanding of the limitations of CSGs. This was a great discussion that finally showed me why Wolfram multiway brachial hypergraphs do not do CSGs. Dowker says many times that the once you have a CSG, you are done and you do not need hypergraphs. Dowker shows how space has snuck into Wolfram hypergraphs (WHyGs) and that Gorard is not calculating Ricci volumes correctly. Also, there Taliesin Beynon of Wolfram was also part of the discussion and so it was four against one... and Dowker won hands down. The WHyGs simply cannot handle CSGs very well because WHyGs have many logical gaps that are papered over in their branchial complexification. While WHyGs use fairly simple rules to grow, CSGs use much more complex growth rules in order to map back to the continuum approximation. There is no reason that WHyGs cannot embrace CSGs, but then WHyGs would need to back off of their many claims. Since CSGs have been around since 1985, WHyGs should build on CSG logic and not presuppose the propagators but embrace CSG propagators. Gorard followed up with a paper in 2020nov arxiv.org/abs/2011.12174 that finally described CSGs in terms of WHyGs. This is a great start and the hope is that Wolfram will take CSGs as the basis of WHyGs...
Causel Set is a nice thing to have, but your take is basically wrong.... Causal Set is not a fundamental theory like Wolfram's. Causal Set is a tool, that allows one to maintain Lorentz Invariance in a discrete space-time description...and lets be honest, Lorentz invariance only need be satisfied if we take locality to be true which most people think it's not. Wolfram's model does not require locality, it merely needs to approximate it in the continuum limit.
Causal Sets are fascinating and frustrating simultaneously!!!! The Subspace for me is something I am trying to get my head around.... The Subspace is my nickname for this strata under the Space-Time we all know and love))) I tried to follow along and now I am relistenng!!! Sometimes I get stuck))))
The so-called vacuum catastrophe has been called the worst prediction ever in physics with an error of 120 orders of magnitude. And that's with discrete spacetime cutoff at the Planck length. In a continuous spacetime the energy would go to infinity! I believe the cutoff result is correct and it's just that almost all vacuum fluctuations cancel each other out.
what Stephen says about magnitude and phase being bundled together into complex numbers being a mistake, or at least, not fundamental, reminds me of what Gerard 't Hooft has been saying recently. Which is that QM, and the use of complex numbers, are just useful tools and nothing more. Scott Aaronson has a great blog post on why complex numbers are necessary in QM and they are surprisingly rarely necessary.
Isn't that just saying the inability the verify our conclusions with direct evidence is still a work in progress cause our observation is limited?
3:20:28 why not "sequence point" instead of "bottleneck" ?
Honestly the update events as an idea makes my hair stand on end as the simlple rule does its thing!!!
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why are you doing this thx for this
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Typical guest: ...but you can't find out this and this SW: actually in our model we found a way to ... Quantum amplitude comes from the fractal nature of the wavefunction, imo
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1:00:05 she asked you to do a simple thing using your Wolfram Physics, and you ran around like headless chooks thereafter, pulling out endlessly more complex excuses and diversions.
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This is why physics advances so slow... Everyone is defending tenure.
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Fay does not need to be so stuck on throwing away space, without reason, she is acting like this is a religion and not a logical scientific discussion.
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