6 Most Controversial Ballon d'Ors In History
France Football just named the latest Ballon d’Or winner. And of course, some people are excited about the results, while some feel like their favorite player was cheated. Well, that’s how it always is almost every year. But to be honest, on quite a number of occasions, some fans have had a right to feel cheated.
We are not in any way questioning the integrity of France Football, but what we know is that, sometimes, the award has gone to players who were not the most deserving that year. And in this video, we bring you 6 very controversial Ballon d’Or winners
Lionel Messi, 2021
Yes. Messi fans may hate us for this one because it’s still very fresh. But think about it, did Messi really outdo Robert Lewandowski in 2021?
Okay yes, they both crashed out early in the Champions League, but Lewandowski did better for his club everywhere else. He won the Bundesliga and the Club World Cup as the best player in both tournaments. Not to forget the DFL Super Cup he won in August scoring 2 goals in that final.
Messi, on the other hand, won just the Copa del Rey with Barcelona. And yes, he won the league’s Golden Boot, but Lewandowski also did. And even did it better. The Polish striker outscored every other player in European leagues, thereby clinching the European Golden Shoe together with his Bundesliga Golden Boot.
If we’re talking goal contributions, Lewandowski was definitely clear of every other player in 2021. And if we’re talking trophies, Jorginho was clear of everybody else. He not only won trophies, but he won the biggest ones available this year.
So, how France Football ended up with Lionel Messi, we just will never know.
6 Most Controversial Ballon d'Ors In History
The 2013 one isn't as scandalous as you might think. The top 3 that year were Ronaldo, Messi and Ribery - all 3 are forwards. Ronaldo had more goal contributions that year than Messi and Ribery combined. That is why he won it, because he was overwhelmingly the best player of that season individually.
Trophies???? They play a massive role... Ribery is kinna winger
But with no trophies awarding him the Ballon d'or makes it more controversial I think Ribéry was denied because he was not playing for Barça or Real Madrid the Administrators of the Ballon d'or that's all
I think they prefer messi or ronaldo
facts
@@arpitchaudhary7512 then why was vini placed that far behind benz. vini had more goals and assists than ribery had
You said that messi won in 2021 because he won the copa del rey with barca. The reason he won was due to his performance in the copa America, something you have completely ignored. It's Argentina's first trophy in 28 years. A much bigger achievement than the bundesliga, which Bayern win every year
Yes Messi was a clutch player with Barcelona and Argentina
@@yassine9027mickey mouse trophy
Goal against Bolivia and chilli is clutch😂
Better than linchestien and Luxembourg @@abdurahmanibrahim3573
Goal against bolivia and chili 😂😂 didn't di Maria saved him in final it's just a fifa gift for Messi pr just agree it and move on
Its not only about winning but, the impact of a player on that team period
In Lewandowski's case his impact was mostly seen where he didn't play - Bayern's games against PSG and Poland's flop against 2nd squad of Hungary. Also, Lewy's goal contribution (goals + assists per all goals of club and country) in 2021 is bigger than Messi's.
you're right. It's not about winning and even scoring goals, the impact is the key. Some player can dribble past whole team and then pass the ball to teammate who taps it in in the empty net, teammate scores but basically the guy who dribbled the whole team did all the job.
The ballon dor is actually based on votes, so that could have been why there were so many of these controversial decisions.
professional journalist votes
they are still subjective votes.
@@aidan2849 ik but they could have been favouring someone.
@@jamesmakume2630 fans hold subjective opinions as well
@@aidan2849 No matter. A journalist isnt a knowledgable football guy... do you want to make it kinda "official"?
For the guys who are mentioning the 2013 and 2019 Ballon D'or 2013 Ballon D'or : Ronaldo didn't win any major trophy and won whereas Ribery won the Treble (UCL, League and League Cup) and still finished 3rd in Ballon D'or Voting. Ronaldo and Ribery were both wingers/wide players that year. Ronaldo scored 59 goals for Madrid that year and Ribery scored 16 goals for Bayern. In the 2012/13 UCL, Ronaldo was top scorer with 12 goals whereas Ribery only scored 1 goal. Ronaldo was without a doubt the best player at Madrid in the 2012/13 season and the only one keeping them competitive. I agree Ribery was the best player at Bayern during the 2012/13 season but was Robben, Lahm and Neuer that far from him. They were also as important as Ribery to that Bayern team's success. 2019 Ballon D'or : Van Dijk won the UCL, finished runner's up in the Nations League and runner's up in the League (1 point) but still finished 2nd to Leo Messi who had only won La Liga that year. Messi scored 51 goals from 50 games for Barca in 2018/19. Was the Top Scorer in the League and UCL. He was by far the best player at Barca and the only one who was keeping them competitive on all fronts right till the end. I do agree Van Dijk had one of the best seasons a defender has had in recent memory but was Van Dijk carrying that Liverpool team like Messi carried Barca? Was the likes of Sadio Mane, Mo Salah and Allisson that far from Van Dijk during that season? They were also as important as Van Dijk to that Liverpool team's success. When Messi and Ronaldo retire, we all will truly realize how great they were season after season for such a long time...
Messi and Ronaldo are Great without a doubt but sometimes The Power and influence that Barcelona and Real Madrid have in modern football is what made them to win the Ballon d'or not their own performance coz if we are only looking at Brilliant performance then I'm sure Lewandowski would have 1 or 2 BALLON d'ors by now from 2020 and 2021
I agree with what ur saying, but Messi wasn’t carrying Barca in 2019. Barca had Ter Stegen, Suarez, Vidal, Pique, Rakititc, De Jong, Paulinho, Umtiti, Alba, and Busquets. Messi is way better than all of them but all those mentioned players are legends in their respective positions.
@@meshal5469 do u watch golf or smt? messi carried barcelona scoring all goals against liverpool and carried barca to the semi finals
Respect
@@SpanishR9TPSThat is such a lame excuse. Just admit that Van Dijk deserve it for his performance. Not for some pathetic performance and ZERO outcomes. Carrying doesn't match with football. Ter stegen was the one who carried Barcelona
Lewandowski was robbed again period.
He wont win it bundesliga never
He's a good striker but not a good footballer. I think the balloon dors should always be all round players
He can't tackle,he can't do long passes,he doesn't back track,he don't defend, he can't control the game or tempo. Harry Kane is better then him. And do you realise Roy Keane, Ryan Giggs, Beckham and Paul Scholes never won the balloon dor which shows you don't take it seriously
2019 2020 2021
@@MrThedonheadplaymakers only win?
This guy forget Messi Copa America, kante carry Chealsie
What about Copa America? When you look at FIFA rankings and market value, Brasil and Uruguay are the only teams that count beside Argentina. Winning Copa America after so many tries is not in favour of Messi. Scoring 3 goals against 70+ FIFA ranked Bolivia (equivalent of UEFA's Israel who didn't qualify to Euro2020) is not much of a feat.
@@michamarkowski2204 You really can't be serious saying this.
@@jamalismail6421 I am. Numbers don't lie.
@@michamarkowski2204 Then go back and look at the numbers again, all of them not just goals.
@@jamalismail6421 I already did. Lewy's got more trophies, more goal contribution ratio (goals+assists out of all goals of their clubs and national teams), was more consistent (scored or assisted in every game with stronger opponents or in a trophy winning game, whereas Messi scored/assisted only in 4 such games and in one Messi got a red card for punching his opponent). Ppl tend to think Lewandowski was better in 2021 only in goals, but that's BS.
iniesta barely played in 2010 -_- people say he deserved to win the ballon dor just because of his goal in the wc final, which is a very dumb argument. while messi on the other hand had statisticly the kind of year that was unheard of before than. it just doesnt seem as impresive now cause he outshined himself in the following years
same with Modric in 2018. The award is just rigged.
@@ariRumi. at least modric played that year
@@PM-ip7pi not better than Cr7.
@@ariRumi. think about it Griezmann had Europa League World Cup UEFA Supercup and had comparable stats Mbappe won WC League title French Cup and good enough stats to win Messi had League title Spanish Cup Golden Boot and most goals and assists out of any contender definitely a hard ballon d'or choice even though Ronaldo would probably win if it wasn't for Perez bcz journalists who vote look who won UCL and if it is Ronaldo or Messi they just give their vote to them
No sneijder should habe won in 2010 he reached the world cup final and won the treble as a key player in that inter squad.
Messi deserved 2021 ballondor but Lewa deserved 2020 ballondor
Trash lewa desrved both
@@tobi8781 no
No lewa deserved both. Any neutral football fan(not Messi or ronaldo fans) would say lewa deserved it more
@@GreyDaze2201 kzhead.info/sun/g6-ckaaIbGpmrI0/bejne.html the same page actually
@@GreyDaze2201 i am ronaldo luis nazario fan and i think they both deserved it, but messi was a bit more luckier. But in 2020 it's for sure should've gone to Lewa, it was not fair to not give this award in 2020
Wait what ? Nedved did not win champions League lol . Juventus last won champions League in 1996 . Juventus lost final to Ac Milan that year . I watched it late night penalty shootout .
This guy proved that his information is from Wikipedia.. He is judging how good a player based on goals lol.. if this is the case Zidane is the worst player because he only scored like 40 goals for Madrid.
@@zorashki Who me ? I never said nedved is not deserving. I only corrected his information about him winning the champions league. Who am I to decide who is deserving or not.
Im pretty sure neymar mbappe messi and ronaldo will 100% win the award if their team win
This is world class vedio this shows when people who don't know about football opens a channel ,and just gives there suggestions. And people comparing footballer... everybody knows who is the GOAT in football ⚽ whether you agree or not without the GOAT there could be all players getting Ballon d'or
You literally made a video 2 days ago comparing Lewandowski and Messi in terms of stats. While very close, Messi was better in terms of stats. And while Lewandowski may have won more trophies, that's not convincing enough, because Messi won a trophy with a trashy Barcelona side, and of coursewon the Copa America. Now I'll give you an example how ludicrous it would be, if he had not won. Take for example Sterling, if he had scored 42 goals, made 19 assists, won the FA Cup, and won the Euros. No one in their right mind would take Lewandowski over Sterling in this hypothetical world. And to top it off, Messi's average grade over the 20/21 season was 8.52 and Lewandowski 8.07.
Your reasoning is still wrong because the award is based on subjective votes. Not perfomance stats. Some of the people who voted don't have tv subscriptions to all Bayern matches in their countries. Even if RL9's stats were better in areas you deem important, he still wouldn't have won.
The tenth is Bundesliga would have won that Spain cpa del ray.
This is a popularity constest. Admit it.
Look guys, what I'm saying, is that Messi did not unjustifiably win. Look at his overall stats, while ON TOP OF THAT, bring successful with his national team. I do agree with you guys, that France Football needs to put some clarity on what is more important in order to win this price. Major trophies, or statistics, or a combination of both?. In my opinion the best would be a combination of both. Because, if it is based only on statistics, Messi should have won it 9 times by now, and no, that is not a joke, nor a statement to make you aggravated. If you have watched football over the last 15 years, and remember each year, you'll know that almost every year, Messi was ahead in goals. The year Rolando was ahead, Messi still beat him in overall goal contributions. No in no way shape or form, did Messi not deserve it. It was a close call, and het just got ahead of the beast Lewandowski.
@@HaaaTayo Lewandowski scored 41 goals in 29 Bundesliga matches and broke Gerd's record. Gerd won the ballon d'or when he set his record soo what is Lewy to do to win the stupid thing? He out scored everybody the most important stat, because thanks to more goals you win matches. Lewandowski was injured against PSG and that is why they lost. It is soo unfair. He should have 2 by now, but France football are La Cabaret.
If a player is judged on the basis of number of goals he scores and what cups he wins...and If the awards are given based on these stats only The defense and the center shouldn't be considered at all. The award is for best player overall I guess...
I like how they sugar coated it for Ronaldo vs modric with the stats but didn't do the same for Messi vs Ineista Hate is real even for content creators 😂😂😂
@AMIR HAMZAH just another bias/hater/looking for views channel
@@justgo_withit8850 hating on who? Havent seen the vid yet
@@beastedninja3757 he compared modrid and ronaldo with goals, buy didn't compare iniesta and messi with goals So he doesn't sound silly saying messi didn't deserve to win the 2010 balon dor while saying ronaldo should have won in 2018 because of goals.
@@beastedninja3757 what he said 👆
@@de7518 thas fked
Amazing analysis
But truth be told , on quite a number of occasions, some fans have had a right to feel truly shortchanged , messi sort of acknowledged that at the ceremony
Where have you shown the international achievement of lm7 ??? And compare that with Lewandowski also
Wtf is lm7???
@@ElyOmar your dad's new name
@Swapnaneel Gorai It's LM30
@@Unknown-ic1ko that was old. Now he will be called by lm7 the number which he have own and deserve
@@swapnaneelgorai3135 You mean finally winning Copa America after so many tries with 2nd ranked South America national team? Or his glorious 3 goals against 75+ FIFA ranked Bolivia? Oh, and Lewy on Euro2020 did all he had to do - scored 3 goals in 3 games, all against stronger opponents, while Messi was invisible against Brasil.
Modric won it. because even tho he only had 8 assists he contributed so much to real madrid ,a lot of people underate modric.But I think Lukas Modric deserved the ballon dor in 2018
Not more than Cr7 or messi
@@momotheone9700 c'mon u are the typical messi or ronaldo fan who will just shout undeserved if others won the ballon dor modric really deserved it
@@kabirdon5663Ronaldo could have won that if he never left Madrid coz if you think like that then why inesta didn’t win in 2010 ?
@@Ronaldo-vk1vniniesta was simply not the best player for Barcalona and Spain. Sure, iniesta scored the winning goal in the final and won MOTM but he wasn’t the star player for Spain in the tournament which was actually David Villa. For Barcalona, he missed out dozens of matches due to injury , but even when he was fit and available he wasn’t putting up the assist numbers as usual which led to messi winning individual award after individual award, stacked up on g/a which got him to win his 2nd ballon d’or at that time
@@KM_1304 well , what do you think about snejider coz he won treble and reaching World Cup final but he didn’t got that much hype though but if Ronaldo didn’t left Madrid ofc he would have got more votes also it was his rape allegation which is the reason he got low votes
So that is gives us the result that Ronaldo and messi have 5 Ballon d'ors each. What a rivalry!! Let's not care about ballon d'ors both are legends, both are goats.
messi 6 Ronaldo 5
No Messi deserved 2021 balon dor because he has more assists his performance at copa america was amazing while Lewandowski ain't shit
the debate is over know tho
Which three you are excluding?? All of them were deserved. I would even say that 2013 ballondor of ronaldo was deserved
The balon dor is a joke it's just a la Liga trophy 🏆
those who think messi did not deserve it in 2010 probably forgot about his level in 2009 - 2012 or never seen him back then.
Completely agree they say iniesta deserve it but he was injured for most of this season and sneijder was not even inter best player
Its a pleasure seeing people whining over Messi's success. Its gives them sleepless nights
So nice
It gives ABSOLUTELY no one sleepless nights, he's just stating the pure facts, messi wasn't remotely deserving of those 2 awards, you're just a salty casual
More like "Robwandoski!"
One day Messi's friends Iniesta and Xavi will speak out about the injustices of 2010.
And that day you'll be no more
@@princevanny527 lmao
2010 diego milito, the man who won the treble for sneijder and had a g/a of 40
My ballon d'or :- 2005 :- Ronaldinho 2006 :- Thierry henry 2007 :- kaka 2008 :- Cr7 2009 :- Messi 2010 :- Messi (Ballon d'or meant for personal performances) 2011 :- Messi 2012 :- Messi 2013 :- Franck Ribery 2014 :- Cr7 2015 :- Messi 2016 :- Cr7 2017 :- Cr7 2018 :- cr7 2019 :- Messi 2020 :- Lewa 2021 :- messi 2022 :- Benzema. Still messi has got 7 and cr7 has got 5 ballon d'or
"2010 :- Messi (Ballon d'or meant for personal performances)" UCL during 2010: Sneijder > Messi 2010 FWC: Sneijder > Messi
2013 was Ronaldo best stats
Since it's a about stats then did messi then messi deserved 2016 and 2018 simple
@@MM-yt5hl yeah but Ronaldo was undeserving . But even he got robbed in 2018 😗
You don't want to give clear stats. In 2021 messi has more goal contributions because of his big number of assists. Again 2010 you dont give individual stats since this is an individual award. But again we see you dont like messi
shut your filthy biased mouth up, messi didn't deserve either at all
Nope. Lewy had.more
..unlucky RL9...😥
Time to update the video, Messi won it again for some reason
He won it fairly even though it may have been quite close between him and haaland
"certain Czech man". Man, Nedvěd was one of the best players during his time, bringing Juventus to a glory, replacing Zidane. After Zidane went off, Nedvěd kept Juventus among the top and he was extremely good in the previous years. So he absolutely deserved it and honestly I didn't even know about that Henry until I saw some video few weeks ago.
If this video came out in 2021, how does the thumbnail have a pocture of benzema winning the ballon d'or in 2022?
he accidently predicted it 😂
@@ItachiRyoto6663 that is the exact picture, things like that just don't happen
@@ziopeppecartagialla.1360 Probably He Changed The Video's thumbnail
Messi 2021 also won Copa America
bro said 2018 ronaldo because of stats and then he says 2010 isnt messi even tho he had stats loool
If this was made after messi’s 8th it would be in this video. Should’ve been Haaland Champions league, premier league, FA cup, 48 goals
Nothing against Lewandowski but tell me one aspect where he was better than Messi except of goals. Lewa deserved it last year and he would have won also which Messi himself admitted yesterday. He was deserving candidate this year also but saying Messi was undeserving is inappropriate.
0 answers, just what I thought
1. Overall goal contribution ratio (goals+assists out of all goals scored by club and country) - Lewy 40%, Messi 39% (according to Transfermarkt). 2. Goal contribution against stronger or same strength opponents or in title deciding games ("shining" or "disappearing" in most important games) and their importance - Lewy scored or assisted in every such game (1:0 goal against Tigres 1:0 in FIFA Club World Cup Final; 1:2, 2:2 and 4:2 goals against Dortmund 4:2 in Bundesliga; 1:0 and 3:1 goals against Dortmund 3:1 in DSL-Supercup Final; 1:1 goal against Spain 1:1 in Euro2020; 1:2 and 2:2 goals against Sweden in Euro2020; 1:1 assist against England 1:1 in WC qualifiers), while Messi didn't (neither goal nor assist against Real, Atletico and Brasil, 1:0 goal against PSG 1:4 in UCL, 1:1 goal against PSG 1:1 in UCL, 2:0 goal against City 2:0 in UCL, neither goal nor assist against City 1:2 in UCL, 3:0 and 4:0 goals against Bilbao 4:0 in Copa del Rey Final; and last but not least 0 goals and 0 assists and 1 red card for hitting an opponent! against Bilbao 2:3 in Supercopa Final).
@@michamarkowski2204 i only find Dortmund serious enough.... His goals vs spain were shit ... Of no use knocked out of euros
@@arpitchaudhary7512 don't tell me you're just another fan not knowing football is a team sport...
Nothing against Messi but tell me one aspect where he was better then van dijk except goals. Virgil deserved it 2019 and he also won fifa best and uefa player of the year. Messi himself looked sheepish looking and van dijk holding the la liga player of the year award
The Neved/Thierry story feels like what they want to do with Mbappe this season
The ballon d'or has never been based on performance, it has merely happend by coincidence. It is based on popular opinion (votes) and not a point system, where every statistic is meticulously calculated. 1 Goalkeeper has ever won the ballon d'or and 3 defenders. Considering you have had defenders like Nesta, Cafu, Maldini, Jaap Stam, and goalkeepers like Buffon, Schmeicel, Oliver Kahn, van der Sar, all of whom has been instrumental on both club and international level (and none whom have won Ballon d'or). It is pretty clear that the ballon d'or is simply a trophy awarded to the most popular offensive player.
Nedved’s robbery is the same as Modric’s robbery.
This video came out 11 months ago and they have benzemas balondor 2022 photo
Probably an updated thumbnail...for some reason it got updated
bro 2013/14 and 2014/15 season Ronaldo scored more than 80 goals
Listen kid, ballon dor is not a Top scorer award or not a Most goal + assist award. GOALS AND ASSISTS MATTER BUT NOT THAT ONLY. because how can we compare in Balondor winner deciding process only by number of goals and assists of a forward player with a holding midfielder, defender and GK? its utterly nonsense. Ballon dor is given only on the basis of individual performance and collective performance with the team. Thats why ribery deserved more than ronaldo in 2013. Ribery won all trophys and selected as the Best player in the UCL, Best player in the Bundesliga and Best Player in the Europe that year . what more ribery had to achieve to deserv the ballondor? 😭 2013 - GREATEST ROBBERY IN BALLONDOR HISTORY.....
@@__j_o_s__this is fax on 2013 and the fact that people have the nerve to say that half of messi’s ballon d’or were underserved and gifted by fifa when FIFA reopened the ballon d’or vote the day after ronaldo scored a crucial hattrick vs Sweden in the final stage of the World Cup 2014 qualification play-offs and extended the deadline by 2 weeks
2018 CR7 , 2010 Iniesta , 2021 Lewandowski or Jorginho from italy. Shame.
pendu fan shut up
Ribery had the best season as a team player, sure. but individual awards are given for individual performance, if Ronaldo had not scored more than Messi and Ribery combined overall + UCL, then Ribery would have won it. I get why bayern fans are upset coz Ribery certainly had a dramatic season, but Ronaldo was complete that year, with a not so good team as they seemed out of sink in 2012 and 2013, yet Ronaldo performed amazing in both years. Its the same situation as in 2012, Ronaldo had an incredible season, if you just saw his stats without looking at Messi's you'd be convinced that he should win the ballon d'or but Messi simple destroyed Ronaldo that season, so it wasn't that Ronaldo did not deserve, simply that Messi deserved it more. Same thing for 2013.
Why are titles even considered when rating a player's individual performance. So long as he plays in one of the major leagues in Europe his personal stats should really stand out above anything else. That's includes dribbles and assists for example... so no, Iniesta 2010, Modric 2018 and Ribery 2013 did not deserve Ballon D'or. Lewandowski should have one it 2020. I don't know why they dont just give him the 2020 Ballon D'or like they did with Pele. There was nothing hard about doing that.
Exactly 💯
I agree with all of them apart from Ribery 2013. Ribery that year was simply world class as he was Bayern’s best player that year. Contributed 43 g/a (which may not be the right numbers) in 55 games for a LM like him which is actually impressive. Ribery also ended the 2012/13 CL season as the top assist and even, assisted in Bayern’s 2-1 victory against BVB and eventually won the UEFA men’s best player of the year. He even went on to win MOTM in the uefa super cup against Chelsea and the CWC player of the tournament.
@@KM_1304idgaf, they won it as a team, Ronaldo had 70 goals, he had 50 more goals than rinnery😂. 50 goals these days make u win a ballon dor.
That's interesting of you saying that scoring 50+ goals makes you win a ballon d'or because Modric won the 2018 ballon d'or even though messi and ronaldo both scored more than 50 goals that year. So that obviously means that scoring 50+ goals doesn't always win you something so please so don't be using that as a reason to why ronaldo deserve the 2013 ballon d'or😆
@@KM_1304 Ronaldo deserves the 2018 ballon dor, Perez made Fraudric win. Learn the backstory about Modric and mamic, you will know Modric is scandalous and isnt as innocent as you think.
Robbed - sheva & Nedved King Henry bossing it that 2 seasons.
2019 Top goal scorer? Lewa. Top Assist maker? Thomas Muller. UCL winners? Liverpool. UCL MVP? Virgil. Top int goals? Cristiano Ronaldo. ballon d'or winner? Messi? Messi certainly played well, but Virgil completely renewed the Liverpool defense, and at that time was probably the most technically sound defender, even superior to the likes of Ramos. Def deserved the ballon d'r after he won the uefa player of the year.
Just Shut up, Absolutely about Van Dijk MESSI won La Liga, Top scorer of League. Leave the League. He was top scorer of Europe and won Golden Boot. Supercopa won. Copa Del Rey runner-ups. Nearly won TREBLE until Infamous Liverpool. Was the Top Scorer of UCL and Best Forward of UCL that year. What the Heck is this disrespecting MESSI OF 2019??
No no no goal 90 Messi deserved the 2021 ballon d'or because he won the copy del Rey and cops America for Argentina
Please make a video explaining how you acknowledge that an international tournament affects the awarding of the Ballon D'or and still say Lewandowski fumbling in an international tournament shouldn't have affected his chances against someone who won an international tournament and all the individual honorees that came with it.. I really need to hear how you explain this to the people of the world.
What "fumbling" are you talking about? 3 goals in 3 games, all against stronger opponents (Spain, Sweden).
Lol if lewa win 2021 we would call it's a robbery
Very clear Messi deserve to get the 7th Ballon d'or See the stats of Messi vs Lewa there are 8 items to evaluate, kzhead.info/sun/g6-ckaaIbGpmrI0/bejne.html
@@dickysaputra9005 Another Messi fan boy directing me to obviously biased video. Listen to Goal 90's video ~1:30. Goal 90's stats are from the period 8th October 2020 - 7th August 2021, whereas the period considered by Ballon d'Or voters is 1st January 2021 - 15th October 2021.
Bro that year messi had the copa america while the euros weren't there
The reason of 2021 was because lewa did nothing with poland in the euro and messi won the copa america and best player copa america most goals and most assists in copa america. Even though jorghino won a lot of trophies he was not excactly the leader
The euro was in 2020 , can u not see that when chile won it ,the chile players didn’t even go to the top 10😤
Balond'Or has no standard operating system, it is truly a political award. I seriously think the voting is rigged. Instead of people voting the player, there should be certain point system based on the goals scored, assists, chances created, interceptions, mvp of the match, and saves made. If all these stats are indicated by points, it will even encourage the players to do their best because they'd know their tally throughout. Until such standard operating system is laid it will forever be controversial due to which the credibility of the former winners will always be questioned.
Romario should have won in 1994 if South American players were eligible.
I am 100% questioning the integrity of France football. Bite me.
Copa America most assist, most Goal, copa winner, copa de le ray... I think you Don't know properly about football my Child 🥴🤣🤣
If Modric won the ballon d'or in 2018, so should Messi in 2023. If Iniesta didn't win the ballon d'or in 2010, so shouldn't Messi in 2023.
But messi had the highest g/a in 2023 and he played in the final and scored goals but, haaland ghosted I the finals
@@mihran-chowdhury if you take into account dribbles completed, key passes completed, big chances created, fouls won, recoveries and other playmaking aspects of football, Messi outclasses Haaland by a large factor.
Even Ribery can not say he had a better individual season than Ronaldo in 2013... and Sneijder cannot say he had a better individual season than Messi in 2010 It's the best individual player award, not best winner award. If that's the logic behind your debate, then Pepe should be in the discussing as well because he won everything Ronaldo won. For Jorginho, he was not the Italian player of the year or tournament, neither was he the player of the year at his club, why on earth should he be crowned best in the world?
Out of pretext. Ballon dor is just a celebrity contest where journalists judge footballers. Ironic! Shame on this award
Yeah you are my man 2018 ballon d'or
do people just forget that messi was the first player in a decade or so to score 60 goals in a calender year back in 2010? did yall forget how crazy that was back then smh
3:15 he lose the champions League final😅😅😅
Funny how the narrator forgot to mention messi winning copa America in 2021 and that is why he won the ballon'dor
2010 has to be westly snjder not iniesta
Yes, messi was better in 2021 then lewa
LOL pessi fam
2010 is not even a debate. Iniesta was injured most of the season. Messi’s individual level was other level, no doubt he was the best player in the world, won La Liga when it was the best league in the world, La Liga MVP, La Liga top scorer, Golden Boot, masterpiece against Arsenal in Champions QF… come on, there is no debate, same as bdo 2014, Cristiano was the deserving winner eventhough there was WC year
not everything is about goals and assists and trophy is club succes while ballon dor individual
You don't think about Copa America, where is Copa America, you eat it this trophy
If messi really felt he didn't deserve any of it, he should show his generosity and gave some of his ballon d'or to those who he feel deserve it
2003 Henry 2006 Dinho 2010 Sneijder 2013 Ribéry 2018 CR7 2020 RL9 2021 RL9
I agree Sneijder deserved the 2010 FIFA Ballon d'Or. Why do you think Lewandowski deserved to win the 2021 Ballon d'Or?
blud just ignored messi's goal contribution's and his copa america and international records LOL
fake comparison. copa De Le ray and copa America. He performed well in 20210
But not as lewa
Wow it is official? He will win Another Ballon d'or in the Year 20210 that is still a lot of years ahead of US, but ok 🤣. P. S. Lewandowski was better this Year. Won more trophies and scored much more.
Jorginho won euro and champion league and played well in both if u basing it off trophies Jorginho did better champions league is way better than copa de Rey and so is euros
Why you didn't mention the Copa America 2021.......Messi won his 1st major international trophy and was Pott
because it's not a real tournament. Chile won that shit twice in a row.
@@trndrd whatever Messi wins that becomes shit..I desperately want Argentina to win WC22 to see some clowns saying Euro is better than WC.
@@trndrd then how come Pele and Maradona never won it
@@trndrd why didn't Brazil the best team in world didnt won it
Don’t Blame the players because it’s not down to them
the 1987 ballon d'or was very very controversial aswell. ruud gullit was ranked 1st and paulo futre 2nd, however everyone expected futre to win but when he didn't, it was a roar in the football community, mourinho and a lot of other famous football figures say how futre deserved the golden ball, even ruud gullit, the winner himself is awkwardly silent when asked about this, to this day.
Sneijder deserved 2014
2010*
The 2010 one Messi deserved because iniesta was injured half of the year. You can't give him only scoring in the wc
Sneijder played Tennis this year
You forgot 2019 robbery...
and YES indeed 2023 ballon d'or was very scandalous.
Don't worry, robbing Ballon d'or is Messi accupation. 2023 will be Pessi with 2 more penalties. Erling Halland already the most deserving player right now. He already scored 41 goals for man city.
But messi scored 38 goals and had a higher g/a
Not to mention he had a G/A of 63 to haalands G/A of 61.
And messi had a goal contribution of in every final he played. Haaland ghosted in every final and semi finals
And also messi had 25 motm and 17 motm
You maliciously ignored Messi won Copa America, first international trophy gor Argentina since 1993.
Me hoping kane breaks lewa record and wins euros just to see if the same ppl saying lewa deserved it in 2021 will say the same for kane
Pavel Nedved didn’t win the Champions League with Juve, which makes it worse, wtf are you on💀
Lionel Messi won the copa america in 2021 you forgot to mention it
copa america that was hosted 5 times in 7 years and where only brazil is competing isn't anything to brag about
@@Mdksupreme1yep agree
you forgot to say messi won copa america
2019 - VVD was robbed by Messi also, Messi has at least 3 ballon dor which he didnt deserve, 2010/2019/2021
so yall just conviniently forgot that messi won the copa america as the best player, most goals and assits in the tournament? and also the fact that messi has the most assist, most chances created, most dribbles, most key pass, and most free kick in 2021 in all comps? do better
Nedved didn't even win the Champions League when he won the Balon Dor...
This video is a proof, why the voters always vote for Messi for the various annual awards. The media is biased towards Messi. In this video Messi is referred as: "Of course Probably the greatest person that has ever kiked a ball..." (1:40), while Cristiano Ronaldo is referred as "A certain Portuguese..." (1:19) and "A great player..." (5:24).
Messi is clear of cr7, I’m pretty sure 90% of people are aware of that, “a certain Portuguese” is just irony, everyone knows him so it’s a joke to refer to him as such
1:40 What type?
Tell me why im wearing my luka modrić shirt and hear his name first
Ronaldo won ballon d’or in 2013 and didn’t even win a single trophy…
1. crazy that its all about Trophys a year when its about individual play and you get Trophys from teamplay - great player on a poor team can still be the best in the world... 2. how the french gave Dinho only one Ballon dOr is crazy 3. Levandovskyy was hard robbed for 2 years... poor guy
source:trust me bro Zidane isnt bald
Sneider in 2010: Voted best player of Serie A Won Serie A Won Copa Italia Won Super Copa Won Champions League Runner up world cup/ top scorer at world cup / voted second best player at world cup En route to that Champions League victory, Sneijder's Inter actually knocked out Barcelona, with Sneijder himself grabbing a goal and an assist in the 3-1 win at San Siro which ultimately decided the winner of the semi-final. Voted as second best player at the world cup, just behind Forlan. And top scorer at the world cup together with muller, forlan and Villa. He also played the finals in 2010 world cup. Argentina and Messi lost to Germany 4 - 0 in the quarter finals... Sneijder won literally every price he could win that year, being the best and most instrumental player of the best and most successful team of that year.. If you are voted to be the best player of the team that won every price domestic and European + you outperform at the world cup. No thought in my mind he should've won! He had 5 pieces of silver and Messi had 2 that year. Enough said and in the head to head duels Messi lost and in every other competition Inter and Sneijder performed better than Barcelona and Messi... Messi didn't even score one goal at the world cup in 2010. He even has a negative record... Lionel Messi recorded 29 shots at the 2010 World Cup but did not score a goal, the most of any player at a single World Cup without scoring since this data is available (1966) You can love Messi as much as you want, so do I. But he has won 2-3 ballon d'ors purely because he's Messi. This year exactly the same. Nobody gives a shit about Inter Miami and his time at PSG was mediocre at best. If not Sneijder in 2010, it should've been Iniesta then... Actually if they would've voted with the old system, Sneijder would've won by a landslide... Sneijder's success was appreciated by the journalists who were invited to vote for the 2010 Ballon d'Or. He earned 293 points from that section of the votes, enough to put him top of the pile ahead of Iniesta (226), Xavi (229) and Messi (175). Sneijder would have won under previous rules In any year before 2010, that would have meant Sneijder won the award, but this was a special occasion as it was the first year in which the Ballon d'Or was taken over by FIFA, who invited players and managers to chip in as well. What started off as a recognition of accomplishment quickly turned into a glorified popularity contest, with most of the new voters deciding that Messi, who admittedly was probably the best player on the planet at the time, deserved the award ahead of Sneijder. Sure, Sneijder didn't have the kind of otherworldly class that Messi possessed at the time, but that's not the point. The award was supposed to honour the man that had the best year. And that didn't happen.
Not even close, the ONLY reason sneijder came even CLOSE to winning the balon d’or (if it wasant Messi it should have been Xavi or iniesta) was because he had a decent run on both clubs and NT, he was not even the best player in goddamn inter, it was milito, the idea that THAT guy had a better season in terms of individual performance than any of the top 3 is ridiculous, he wasant a protagonist, he wasant a top scorer or assist (had extremely bad numbers in 2010) and wasant nearly as important or impactful as Messi Messi was the heart of Barcelona, the best team in the world, he had a better 2010 than 2009, giving it to some random midfielder because he for some chance was in both champions league and in the NT runner up to WC is just ridiculous There are 3 important things: protagonist, titles and numbers, sneijder only had 1 of these, meanwhile Messi had 2
Sneijder was a good player with littlr impact on football, he was NEVER better than Messi, Xavi or iniesta, this is a complete joke
Not to mention but Sneijder was also the top assister in the Champions League that season
@@WewetaIt's not about impact, it's not about talent. Sneijder was the most successful player of that year. He won nearly everything that was winnable. I'm not saying Sneijder is a better player than them. But that season he did play better than them. Tons of players have 1 or 2 seasons where they are stellar. This was Sneijder's stellar year. And the barcelona boys won less, lost head to head to him and Messi had a worthless worldcup. 29 shots, 0 goals. A negative record to this day. Not one player did worse than Messi since the 60's. That's how bad he was. Sneijder was extremely impactful for Inter that season. He was one of the key players of them winning the treble. On top of that he was also elected as best player in Inter and the entire Serie A. He was also elected as best midfielder of that year, ironically ahead of Xavi and Iniesta... If you think winning everything you can win in a year + runners up with The Netherlands( not a superpower like Argentina or Spain). And he wasn't part of the success, but an instrumental piece of it. If you think that is "decent", then I don't know what is good for you... Sneijder was the best of 2010 and if they didn't change the voting system that year he would've won. But they made it into a popularity contest and since then. There have been several instances where the best PERFORMING player of that seasons didn't win. But the most TALENTED player won. Wether you like it or not, the facts are the facts. Sneijder was the best performing player of 2010. He won everything continental and domestic and came in 2nd at the worldcup as one of the minor top nations in the world. If they would've given the ball to Xavie or Iniesta, people wouldn't complain. But messi winning 2010 makes no sense. Messi won the last ballon d'or only and because of the world cup. And let's be honest, he wasn't amazing at the world cup. In general Penaltina was painful to watch and they way they conducted themselves during the tournament, including messi, was appaling and not a positive commercial for the game. That's my opinion, you are allowed to have another one. But at least stay consequent and objective. You are clearly a barca fanboy, that's ok. That doesn't mean you have to belittle everything that isn't Barca.
@@FragLord I skipped all the bs and went right to the last argument and holy $hit, Argentina was painful to watch? Penalti a? You could win 5000 champions league and I wouldn’t come close to the value of a World Cup too Argentina was by far the best team of the tournament, it dominated every game playing a offensive style of football, just look at their goal against France, it was INSANE, pure talent and teamwork You also completely missed the fact that every single Spanish player has a better claim to the ballon d’or than sneijder
2018 should’ve really gone to Salah but I don’t think people are ready for that conversation. The UCL final overshadowed what was a great season for Salah.
Really mate? 😂😂 It's sure for Ronaldo....
Agreed on everything except 2021 . 2021 messi deserves it and funny how copa America is not even mentioned 😂
inesta won the world cup and lost the ballon dor while modric lost tthe world cup and won the ballon dor. Proof that ballon dor is a joke award. Cristiano the victim and Messi the favourite child.
@ABCDEFG Lmao Pique? Lol.
Obviously goal didnt do any research on the stats of messi vs low for the 2020-2021 season.. messi have the most assist, most man of the match, complete more dribbles than LOW more chance created, more pass completed, low score more goals than messi but created more gaols, messi also got the most goals in copa american and player of the tournament.. plus the eye test would tell you who was the better player..
Messi is the goat no mistake or based on love
Dude you forgot about the fact that messi won the copa america in 2021
Messi won the copa America in 2021 the first Argentinian title for a long time
So Argentina runs the world of fifa ,it crazy how ppl do not see how much bias messi has 😔