What are the Largest Pyramid Stones Saying?

2024 ж. 27 Сәу.
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The pyramids of Egypt's Old Kingdom contain some truly magnificent stones placed in conspicuously visible locations. These blocks are telling a story, but what clues can be found to help us understand the message?
If megalithic stones are found above a pyramid's entrance, does it make any sense to think of this entrance as being hidden?
Many of the largest stones in the 4th dynasty pyramids have cracked, but how were the ancient Egyptians interpreting these failures?
This video investigates these questions, and ponders what we might learn from looking the at the largest pyramid lintels.
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Many thanks to Valery Senmuth and the Isida Project for capturing so many great photos of these giant stones:
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Thanks to Keith Hamilton for use of his illustrations and valuable insights:
independent.academia.edu/Keit...
Thanks to Stefan Bergdoll for his casing stone height diagram, as taken from Nathaniel Davison's measurements:
independent.academia.edu/Stef...
0:00 Intro
1:23 Gigantic lintels
2:25 Meidum Pyramid lintel
3:07 Secrecy defense?
3:50 Bent Pyramid lintel
5:28 Red Pyramid lintels
7:09 Bent Satellite lintel
9:05 Great Pyramid entrance
10:25 King's Chamber lintel
11:06 Lintel fractures
12:16 Pyramids shrink and lintels grow
12:41 Pyramid texts
13:46 Khufu Queens' pyramids
14:48 Impressive stones
15:17 Wall of the Crow lintel
16:19 Pyramid doors?

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  • I've found the pyramids of Giza fascinating since I was a young child (near 60 now). It's so hard to find anything new, creative or even correct about them on the internet. This channel has exceptional, detailed videos on intriguing and unique subjects. Thank you and keep it up please.

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      @philsurtees@philsurtees10 ай бұрын
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      @-AT-WALKER@-AT-WALKER10 ай бұрын
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      @nsjx@nsjx5 ай бұрын
  • Watching this on my lunch break, I can't help but wonder about these ancient Mega-Structures. Thanks for getting me invested in History once again!

    @ohholygoodness001@ohholygoodness00110 ай бұрын
  • I still can't comprehend how they constructed the pyramids, after the endless videos/pictures/reading I've done about them the more mind boggling it becomes. The logistics of it and all the engineering, man power, ingenuity, innovation, blue prints, drafting, quality control etc etc from truly ancient times is insane. I would love to have a time machine and see just how the hell they did it.

    @chomskyhonk1680@chomskyhonk168010 ай бұрын
    • Don't underestimate the power of thousands of motivated people, working hard. A lot can be done in (my estimate) 20-25 years. Don't compare it to current time where everything has to be done fast and cheap (economically viable).

      @roellemaire1979@roellemaire197910 ай бұрын
    • Yes it’s a favourite introduction for Architectural students.. “Go away and next week tell me how you think the Great Pyramid was built.”.. You know no one ever did…and after another 60+ years I still don’t.

      @madlenellul3430@madlenellul343010 ай бұрын
    • @@jamesw.6931 No no no, it was magical insemination.

      @speedingatheist@speedingatheist10 ай бұрын
    • @@jamesw.6931 Nope. The blocks were not placed on rollers. They were pulled on sleds, and the sled paths were often wetted to reduce friction. Sounds like you guys knew practically nothing, and talked a bunch of garbage.

      @Chris.Davies@Chris.Davies10 ай бұрын
    • @@madlenellul3430 It was made using an internal ramp. Just like the Egyptians stack wheat sacks today.

      @Chris.Davies@Chris.Davies10 ай бұрын
  • Always look forward to your videos. You help us see things that we all may just take for “granted”, unintentionally. Great information and content as always 👏

    @GAS.M3@GAS.M310 ай бұрын
    • Agreed! Fascinates me that even within structures which have been studied as minutely as the Egyptian pyramids, & for so many hundreds of years now, there are still new things to wonder about... And even new discoveries still being made in our lifetimes, such as the voids recently found via muon topography!

      @anna_in_aotearoa3166@anna_in_aotearoa31669 ай бұрын
    • @@anna_in_aotearoa3166 EXACTLY! Can you imagine being one of the "experts", studied it over a lifetime then a random person online comes along and makes you look like a part timer for 20 minutes every months with their observations made from images and footage everybody has had for years. Quality over quantity at its finest👌

      @-AT-WALKER@-AT-WALKER9 ай бұрын
    • blocks were cast like concrete into formwork

      @shikaka9032@shikaka90328 ай бұрын
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      @-AT-WALKER@-AT-WALKER8 ай бұрын
  • Another top-notch video, presenting us with more fascinating details & deeper questions that are overlooked by all the big money cable shows. Kudos to you and all you do for our eager minds! Thank you!!

    @sillyhumans@sillyhumans10 ай бұрын
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      @marcusworrall3386@marcusworrall338610 ай бұрын
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    @patrickmcclure1222@patrickmcclure122210 ай бұрын
  • Always looking forward to your informative videos! I wish more people would be inspired by the same passion, maybe this way more would be done to investigate the pyramids more thoroughly. The pyramids, at least the big ones, have been a sensation for four and a half millennia, it's a pity people give up so easily finding more about them. Thank you for your work!

    @Jupper1958@Jupper195810 ай бұрын
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    @sankarnath@sankarnath10 ай бұрын
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    @Aaron-vt6gh@Aaron-vt6gh10 ай бұрын
  • You have to wonder what was it like to have lived when these were being built? Most certainly the topic of the construction was part of daily conversation. Did they have tours, were there festivals? We tend to think of the finished pyramids as showing the king's power, but the construction process itself, cutting the stones, moving them, and placing them would have been a daily testament to that.

    @grokwhy@grokwhy10 ай бұрын
    • People had been born and then died before finishing construction. It's impossible to fathom how ingrained into their daily lives the construction was

      @RyffHyena@RyffHyena9 ай бұрын
    • @@RyffHyena I've seen estimates the Great Pyramid took 20 years to build. It certainly took less time to build than the king's lifetime. The king would have had to commission it, and then hopefully have it built before he died.

      @grokwhy@grokwhy9 ай бұрын
    • The Egyptians themselves say they didn't build them, but the ancient ones. Mainstream media wants to erase this fact. Not a single mummy nor hieroglyph has been found inside an Egyptian pyramid.

      @GuitarNewz@GuitarNewz9 ай бұрын
    • Could only imagine being modern times we building the Hoover dam. It's very large and breath taking and its actual reason for it's existence known by only the now. On about 10,000 or more years from the now will it be an enigma like the pyramids are to us it will be to them as if they exist in further nevertheless knowing.

      @bigonaka8159@bigonaka81599 ай бұрын
    • Statistically, if you lived there at the time these were built; your life would have been short, harsh and filled with labor. Daily conversation likely would have focused on food, physical ailments, class disparity and how kin were faring.

      @archstanton_live@archstanton_live8 ай бұрын
  • Yet another brilliant, insightful analysis. You always make excellent observations and reach highly logical conclusions. This is easily the best channel of its kind on KZhead, so please keep up the good work. It's very much appreciated.

    @conniebenny@conniebenny10 ай бұрын
  • I really appreciate the in-depth and careful analysis. You manage to demystify and clarify many aspects of this subject, that are often left to the interpretation of so-called experts, with an agenda. Keep it up :)

    @markmunro@markmunro6 ай бұрын
  • Love this channel. Sometime you should make a two hour special. You do some fascinating exploring.

    @AyatollahOfDahmsistan@AyatollahOfDahmsistan10 ай бұрын
  • Your videos are always mind blowing. The research you do is incredible. I wish someone would make animations of possible sequences of construction. So many of the design choices pyramid builders made are mysterious

    @jeanhorseman9364@jeanhorseman936410 ай бұрын
    • There are many drawings and animations of possible building methodology of the pyramids and some on this channel. The trouble with those is that no one really knows how the pyramids were made and drawings/animations tend to convince people that things were done in a certain way when the evidence shows otherwise. There were vertical grooves in large vertically orientated blocks shown in this video and he’s mentioned before how ropes had been used a lot in these grooves as the stone was worn smooth. Ropes for lifting blocks.

      @teeanahera8949@teeanahera89495 ай бұрын
  • Great videos as always. I did notice some shear cracking in some the large lintels. Not reinforced of course but it is why beams nowadays are reinforced there. Particularly in earthquake zones. Keep up the great work!

    @lonnymo@lonnymo10 ай бұрын
  • A very excellent video like all the rest! I sincerly enjoy your eye opening technical overviews focusing on verifiable facts+science and keeping a skeptical eye on assumptions and hearsay. GOOD WORK MAN!!!!

    @brianhxxx@brianhxxx10 ай бұрын
  • As always more excellent insight. Love this channel!

    @cg_justin_5327@cg_justin_532710 ай бұрын
  • Will you please cover the topic of the surfaces of the stone and what we can learn from it? i.e. Made using chisel or saw? Did they grind or sand the surfaces to make them so smooth? Was it rough and then finish as it was placed? Location of quarry? How they decided on type of stone depending on where it was set. etc.

    @TheNeckzombie@TheNeckzombie10 ай бұрын
    • The wear on the stones over the years would prevent being able to tell how they were finished. You have to think even fairly deep chisel marks will have been worn smooth by now.

      @GilgameshEthics@GilgameshEthics4 ай бұрын
    • Not when those surfaces are on the inside. Those stones were cut before the Egyptians inherited them by methods we can only dream of😮​@@GilgameshEthics

      @user-mb3md1ri5d@user-mb3md1ri5d2 ай бұрын
  • Conjecture: Oversized lintels for decorations painted or mounted on them. These may have faded over the 1,000s of years if not having been carved. A decorative idea would want a large frame thus a larger block face. Two smaller blocks would disrupt the mural with the dividing line. Purely conjecture but it is a factor that would favor the large lintel.

    @b1laxson@b1laxson10 ай бұрын
  • Excellent video…thank you for continuing to educate us about new finds and also the construction of the pyramids.

    @GreatGreebo@GreatGreebo10 ай бұрын
  • Very interesting video. Need a time line for pyramid construction during the Third Dynasty.

    @user-gf7zf9sx7w@user-gf7zf9sx7w8 ай бұрын
  • A new video from History for Granite is like an unexpected present which turns out to be exactly what you wanted even though you didn't tell anyone.

    @kev3d@kev3d10 ай бұрын
  • this gets me thinking how the largest blocks are oriented can give clues to how they and the rest are brought to be in those positions if you think about what direction could they have slid in, how it would turn before getting there. was it lifted in or pushed along a path, etc. still so many mysteries! love this channel!

    @pauls5745@pauls574510 ай бұрын
    • That's the sort of question we need to listen to old timers in the building trade for. Okay perhaps quarry workers also but you get the drift. It all seems impossible then some old timer pipes up "c'mer son you're making a mess of it" then casually spins 40ton block like it's wearing ice-skates Fingers crossed we get answers in our lifetimes though eh!

      @-AT-WALKER@-AT-WALKER10 ай бұрын
    • He’s touched on these issues in previous vids, you may need to go back and watch them all to answer some of your questions.

      @teeanahera8949@teeanahera89495 ай бұрын
    • Aliens 👽

      @Coo85372@Coo853722 ай бұрын
  • I've been waiting for another one of your videos. Thank you!

    @dennisbeers@dennisbeers10 ай бұрын
  • Always look forward to a new vid. Fascinating as always

    @RomekTheCreator@RomekTheCreator10 ай бұрын
  • Another of your always interesting and thought-provoking pyramid videos. I've never thought about it before, and "looks like" doesn't mean is, but the sketch of the relieving chambers looks like a Djed. Thanks again for your fascinating work!

    @JMM33RanMA@JMM33RanMA10 ай бұрын
    • Agreed I think there is a lot of hidden symbology that's still gone uninterpreted and that feels like one of them.

      @JonnoPlays@JonnoPlays10 ай бұрын
  • I love your thoroughness, thoughtfulness and fairness in your efforts to understand what is going on and other peoples viewpoints. Cheers!

    @aBRUSHforCONFUCIUS@aBRUSHforCONFUCIUS9 ай бұрын
    • Did you see a different colour in the interior of some stones? I meant the stones appearing at 7:35 up to 8:35. There might be wood inside of the stones.

      @legpol@legpol9 ай бұрын
  • I think this guy’s videos showcase ideas that make far more sense to explain how and why the pyramids were constructed than what the conventional Egyptologists believe. Unfortunately they tend to think in singular terms about each structure and don’t seem to look at the totality of the many structures like this guy does to find the commonalities and trends that explicate their intentions. Egyptologists seem to miss the forest for the trees too often and don’t analyze across multiple structures to try to identify the commonalities and differences. This series is just as valuable and interesting as any graduate thesis and any good school should consider granting him a degree based on this series alone considering the contributions he’s made to advancing the field. It’s an impressive body of work and deserves recognition even though it’s in a different format than what academia normally accepts. Well done! 👍🏻

    @keirfarnum6811@keirfarnum6811Ай бұрын
  • The way you transform dry research into such an engaging and enlightening narrative is always a delight from this end. You pose questions I hadn't gotten around to considering, and all without ancient aliens. Thank you.

    @walterholmes4609@walterholmes460910 ай бұрын
  • What is truly impressive is that no one knows how they were able to cut granite so precisely, which is something you take for granite.

    @burtpanzer@burtpanzer10 ай бұрын
    • With granite or similar stones to break of bits. Sand with water as a grinding material. A copper blade with sandy sludge grinds a straight cut through granite. Hard labour like we don't do anymore nowadays

      @celsus7979@celsus79799 ай бұрын
    • @@celsus7979 Using fire to warm up the Granite ?

      @Rusty_Gold85@Rusty_Gold859 ай бұрын
    • @@celsus7979 yes - 4mm an hour is what they achieved using the method you stated. The copper blade would have got destroyed in the process pretty swiftly - but they never tell you that part. There are cut marks in some stones that have gone off track - that suggests a far faster method than the shite you and others promote. Also extreemly regular rotational cut marks can be found on blocks - like to see your copper saw and sand do that. Tha fact is we just plain do not know how it was done and are just guessing.

      @doctormarazanvose4373@doctormarazanvose43738 ай бұрын
  • love your channel.. Thank you for the time and energy you put into your videos.

    @brandonhoszkiw9395@brandonhoszkiw93959 ай бұрын
  • And once again... brilliant and insightful! Thanks, mate. 👍

    @svetovidarkonsky1670@svetovidarkonsky167010 ай бұрын
  • Great great channel bro!

    @richief1957@richief195710 ай бұрын
  • Fascinating video, esp to a hard-rock geologist. Because those massive granite blocks were quarried far away, mostly upstream the Nile in Aswan. Just imagine the logistics of creating an architectural spec, sending requirements to Aswan, arranging the quarry work, conducting the removal operation, more prep work at quarry, transport to the Nile, float hundreds of miles north, then movement from river to site, and then... finally... it gets installed. And it fits.

    @byronking9573@byronking95739 ай бұрын
  • This channel is like a megalithic multi-vitamin for my brain.

    @Chebva@Chebva7 ай бұрын
  • Your channel rules, bro. Super cool stuff. When I found out you're acquainted with Matt from AA, that made it even better. Been a big fan of his for years. Your content is the same, but totally different in the best possible way. Amazing work homie. Be well.

    @kaynesantor8136@kaynesantor813610 ай бұрын
  • Love your video, as always. It's great that you're able to look at things in the context of the time they were created in. For an Egyptian living so many thousands of years ago, the pyramids must have been truly works of wonder. Even walking underneath a heavy stone portcullis, or arch, or maybe even being in a stone building might have been a privilege. The adoption of new technologies took a long long time in the past, so something that might be completely normal for us, might have been special for ancient Egyptian royalty, and absolutely mind blowing for the regular Egyptians. That's probably why the Pharaohs were considered Gods. Looking at things in that context, the pyramids become even more special.

    @jrcat2258@jrcat225810 ай бұрын
    • They can't even begin to imagine e just how old these structures really are

      @greenmachine1372@greenmachine137210 ай бұрын
  • I love this channel and your content, I will never take it for Granite that's for sure.

    @Whodaleewho@Whodaleewho10 ай бұрын
  • Your work and channel are amazing! Instant click when a new video hits . Thank you.

    @kevinwhitehead6076@kevinwhitehead607610 ай бұрын
  • Another great video. Maybe you could do a series on how they cut them, saw marks etc but absolutely no drawings or tools found that could do it

    @MrFatboy192@MrFatboy1929 ай бұрын
  • @6:11 Perpendicular to the lintel on the right, the 2 courses would move more had the lintel be lower ( and marrying or 'well toothed' between the lintel and the wall it joins), the vertical interface is less likely to move with a tall lintel bonded to the face of the coursework. The 'plinth' under the huge lintel is in the middle, like a fulcrum, so the continuity of vertical compression between the 2 courses above the first course and lintel has a stronger supportive bond. @6:14 the fracture is the stress shearing the lintel. That damage would've been more significant had the lintel been shorter, and remaining as long. The left of the lintel moved down, the right moved up, spreading the lower section of the crack apart. Settlement and displacement expose joins to moisture, and stresses creating the known 'fails' to happen in designated points. So I'd guess the openings are stress relief points too, and given a purpose beyond proving impressive engineering sympathetic to the movement of Earth's crust as a by-product. A physically moving monument to learn from. Stimulating content!

    @JT-si6bl@JT-si6bl10 ай бұрын
    • Nice analysis! No offense, asking this in reference to a reply I left somebody else a few minutes ago - old timer builder?

      @-AT-WALKER@-AT-WALKER10 ай бұрын
    • @@-AT-WALKER With an eye for the stone that tells a tale, just like water does and the retired old builders to learn from; yes I am. A lot of conservation work on historic builds too.. No offense taken. On the contrary in fact.

      @JT-si6bl@JT-si6bl9 ай бұрын
  • Your carefully chosen photography really accentuates your perspective. Personally, with a modicum of building/creativity experience, I think the 'entrance' to sacred spaces were very carefully considered. In the case of the evolving Egyptian lintels; I think the intent may have been to illustrate the overwhelming burden of the 'material'/corporeal world, vs the ethereal world.

    @flightographist@flightographist10 ай бұрын
    • lmao, please pass that joint, man

      @francischambless5919@francischambless591910 ай бұрын
    • Blooddy hell, what planet are you on pal? I want some of whatever you're smokin......

      @marcusworrall3386@marcusworrall338610 ай бұрын
    • @@marcusworrall3386 If you don't like nerdy talk, perhaps bright insights is more your speed.

      @flightographist@flightographist10 ай бұрын
  • Fantastic content thank you for the hard work

    @XxxXxx-dc3ud@XxxXxx-dc3ud8 ай бұрын
  • Your presentations make me interested in things ive never thought of!!

    @XtrovertedHermit@XtrovertedHermit10 ай бұрын
  • I would absolutely love if you would talk about how these stones were shaped. Dyrite pounding stones and sand can’t be c all there is. There is so much misinformation and bad information about that topic, I’d love for you to cut through it and provide your insights.

    @MarshalJed@MarshalJed10 ай бұрын
    • I don't think this channel will dive into that subject, there just isn't any good conventional explanation on the subject that makes any sense. The work of the dynastic Egyptians is obvious (softer stone, mud bricks, crude shaping, multi-piece pillars) where the very ancient granite is so precise and megalithic it baffles any geologist or modern stone-cutter. Not to mention, precise megalithic granite was being carved all over the world in similar fashion (mysterious scoop marks, knobs, outstanding precision). At some point, people will have to open their eyes.

      @johnscribb6731@johnscribb673119 күн бұрын
  • i never take this channel for granite

    @James00037@James0003710 ай бұрын
    • But do you take it for GRANITE ?

      @Toshiinori@Toshiinori10 ай бұрын
  • Outstanding! As always! Still bummed I can't make the trip!

    @stefanmolnapor910@stefanmolnapor91010 ай бұрын
  • WOW Mate!! Great footage and discovery, I watched it a few times and will a few more

    @thefracker830@thefracker83010 ай бұрын
  • A though that occurred to me watching this video (which is excellent btw), the above ground pyramids had those outcrops of bedrock in the center of the foundation, 'primeval mounds' they're often referred to. Obviously not an option when they moved the stuff underground. Maybe the increased apparent significance of the lintel is related to this? Perhaps it's a replacement for that mound?

    @DeDunking@DeDunking10 ай бұрын
    • Size definitely still mattered to the builders in the 5th and 6th dynasties, individual blocks within them are bigger than what you find in the large pyramids of the 4th dynasty.

      @HistoryforGRANITE@HistoryforGRANITE10 ай бұрын
    • @@HistoryforGRANITE There's so many possible explanations for this too, economic downfall, a change in how they tried to secure the bodies, or even a religious shift to a different form of the old beliefs. Evidence to support all three ideas seems to exist. I appreciate that aspect of your channel, you don't discard the mystery but you don't get all Tesla Power Plant with it.

      @DeDunking@DeDunking10 ай бұрын
  • while i may be really sceptical about dynastic egyptians actually constructing these stone mountains as the official timeline insists but the way you investigate and present your findings is clear logical insightful and compelling.. great channel and my thanks and regards for your obvious care and effort in producing each upload.. this is how the history channel should be.

    @diquadhumungersaur492@diquadhumungersaur49210 ай бұрын
    • They didn't. They themselves had weitten this, that they didn't build them. But this is something the mainstream media/scientific world wants to hide.

      @GuitarNewz@GuitarNewz9 ай бұрын
  • Another insightful episode. Thanks for sharing 👍

    @davec5237@davec523710 ай бұрын
  • I love nerding out about stones with your videos!

    @dorkfish6663@dorkfish666310 ай бұрын
  • It's possible the stones were ordered in bulk assuming some would break. Every once in a while the would have too many big ones and just put them in the next most sensible place. These stones were probably quarried months in advance of use and rather than hold up construction they had some stones as 'backups' in case of late delivery.

    @Spedley_2142@Spedley_214210 ай бұрын
  • it's unfortunate so much knowledge about the Pyramids has been lost to time, i would love to know the why's and the how's.

    @theldraspneumonoultramicro405@theldraspneumonoultramicro40510 ай бұрын
    • The why is written out pretty clearly if you know where to look. Egyptian symbolism and religion is a good place to start.

      @lastofmygeneration@lastofmygeneration10 ай бұрын
    • ​@@lastofmygeneration That is just plain false - their design and placement is pure perfection from a geometrical perspective - none of which is documented - never had to be - the dimensions of the King's chamber is a mathematical marvel in itself - and the box (not a sarcophagus btw.) Many think it is a message left for us - similar to the message we put on the Voyager probes. The Earth just happens to rotate exactly the width of the base of the Great Pyramid every 1/2 a second. The width and height fit the exact dimensions of the Earth by a factor of 43,200 - a sacred number. By the way the height has also been adjusted to fit exactly with the 13 mile difference due to the Earth being an oblate spheroid. We didn't even know the exact dimensions of the Earth until we launched a satellite to measure it in 1972 - yet they knew just as precisely many thousands of years ago. That has smacks of science over religion to me.

      @doctormarazanvose4373@doctormarazanvose43738 ай бұрын
  • Yes! Fresh Content! Love your videos.

    @stevezilla5230@stevezilla523010 ай бұрын
  • Always learn something new watching your videos. Thank you.

    @aaronsnowden6311@aaronsnowden631110 ай бұрын
  • What I'd like to see are the plans to build these things, they can't have just built them on the fly there must have been an exact set of plans with every stone calculated.

    @dubsydubs5234@dubsydubs523410 ай бұрын
  • Recently, a void in the Great Pyramid of Giza was detected using muons. If that space hasn't been polluted by the torches and lanterns of visitors, perhaps the soot on its walls would be from the builders' torches. Carbon-dating that soot might reveal/confirm when it was built.

    @MsTyrie@MsTyrie10 ай бұрын
    • I think water intrusion will have spoiled the soot, but I'm optimistic some wood will be found in the Big Void.

      @HistoryforGRANITE@HistoryforGRANITE10 ай бұрын
    • Egyptian workers added salt to their oil lamps specifically NOT to create soot inside their constructions. We know when the pyramids were built. There are no doubts about their ages.

      @Chris.Davies@Chris.Davies10 ай бұрын
    • @@Chris.Davies Very helpful! Thanks for clarifying. Color me, edified.

      @MsTyrie@MsTyrie10 ай бұрын
    • ​@@Chris.DaviesFalse, the guesses are pure speculation. People that pretend they know something that there is absolutely no possible way to know are weirdos. The claim the great pyramid the Tomb of Khufu is straight BS. The single 2" Khufu toy "found" in it & some messy graffiti above the kings chamber is REALLY enough evidence to convince you? There's no other tombs with ZERO hieroglyphics, there's never been a tomb or a mummy found, & there's tons of evidence that resonant vibrations from the river flowing underneath the Pyramid were utilized to compress the stone above to harness energy. Those pyramids were there before the dynastic era & when the following civilization attempted to replicate them, theirs were butt. Why would the technology max out in 5000bc & then DRASTICALLY decline 1000 years later before beginning to slowly improve again?

      @BiasFreeTV@BiasFreeTV10 ай бұрын
  • EXCELLENT work. I really love this channel

    @caryccharlson@caryccharlson10 ай бұрын
  • These stones are amazing, but youre knowledge and information is priceless.

    @MellowYellowMan@MellowYellowMan10 ай бұрын
  • When quarrying stone you get small pieces and bigger pieces. Yes, you would use the bigger pieces in places that have structural importance...or just because you want to put them there. I think sometimes we look for meaning in things where there is none. The simple answers are usually the right ones.

    @dazuk1969@dazuk196910 ай бұрын
  • thanks hfg . the amount science. and architectual knowledge you have on the pyramids is mind blowing. no other you tube videos provide the knowledge you have on these wonderful structures. great work as always . thanks for all the hard work and and investigation into one of the biggest puzzles in my life . how the hell did they build these wonders. much respect to you

    @JamesWoodring-mu2iz@JamesWoodring-mu2iz10 ай бұрын
  • It would certainly seem reasonable that having gone to the trouble of building such an impressive 'burial' place a pharaoh would want people to visit and be impressed. Maybe there were ongoing 'rites' within the pyramids post burial? Any thoughts as to how far within a pyramid visitors would be expected to go (seemingly all the way) and for how long that would happen given they did seem to be designed to be sealed off eventually? As always thank you for your thoughtful insights and videos. As an aside I occasionally wonder if the people who come up with bizarre theories like "The pyramids were power stations" might in a way be vaguely recognising such monuments must have been functional buildings that people visited and used both inside and out, not just places to put an important corpse - possibly I'm being overly charitable.

    @charlesjmouse@charlesjmouse10 ай бұрын
    • Dude, no pharoaoh has ever been found shrink wrapped in a pyramid. I mean come on, you really think people would build such a structure just to lay to rest one generations ruler....... That's like suggesting the empire state building was built for one guy to live in - get real! This guy is just another shrill peddling some BS version of history. you're better off watching Unchartered X, or similiar (at least I think that's what it's called). There's heaps of content creators out there telling more realistic theories about the ancient pyramids than this nutbar.......

      @marcusworrall3386@marcusworrall338610 ай бұрын
    • I think the power station thing is a little far fetched but I firmly believe the pyramids were used for something. There is no possible way they were simply tombs. Today even the most wealthy and powerful people cannot afford billion dollar decades long vanity projects. All of our most impressive and expensive feats of engineering today serve a function. The Burj Khalifa may be a vanity project but it still functions as a hotel, an office space and tourist attraction to bring in visitors. I believe the pyramids were built in one function to show off incredible wealth and power but there had to be another use to convince people to invest what would be the equivalent of 10’s of billions of dollars and decades of time. They must have provided some sort of benefit or it would bankrupt any empire just building them for no reason.

      @colebevans8939@colebevans893910 ай бұрын
    • ​@@colebevans8939 I see the massive size of the pyramids as proof that they were not functional, and that they were monuments. The cost of the pyramids, particularly the great pyramid, was staggering. Simply put, it would be completely impossible to get enough economic utility out of them to justify the cost. You don't put hundreds of thousands of man-years of labour into building a structure that does something unless that something is more valuable than the labour, and there simply isn't anything the pyramids could have done that would be worth that much. I am very open to the idea that the pyramids were as much symbols of the King's authority and glory as they were tombs, but I cannot fathom how they could be anything other than monuments of some kind.

      @user-cz9gf3si4g@user-cz9gf3si4g10 ай бұрын
    • Your claim of "reasonableness" is utter rubbish. Sorry. Using quote marks around the word "burial" means you don't accept the true purpose of the pyramids: they were tombs. No visitors were permitted after the king was buried within it. You've got a little fantasy going there.

      @Chris.Davies@Chris.Davies10 ай бұрын
  • Hey dude, I like your videos, thanks for all your hard work!

    @Burnie66@Burnie6610 ай бұрын
  • Great work as always👍 Thank You

    @maciejturski2062@maciejturski206210 ай бұрын
  • What does it mean when you stop everything you're doing in the now, just to learn what happened 1000's of years ago? Maybe an addiction? I can live with that!

    @sillyhumans@sillyhumans10 ай бұрын
  • Another well put together and informative video. But to tell you the truth today in the modern era we have a difficult enough time quarrying, cutting, polishing and transporting stones that are nowhere near the size of a lot of these stones. This is a ridiculous amount of stones, not to mention all other buildings, statues, and temples. And egyptologist are trying to tell us that they cut all of these millions of gargantuan blocks with stone hammers and copper chisels?? Not to mention transporting them the distances they did! I don't believe for a minute that they could transport those huge stones on their crappy little barges. They, or somebody, were building things that we can't even do today! Something is definitely wrong here.

    @Mr.56Goldtop@Mr.56Goldtop10 ай бұрын
    • Think of how small the entire population was at the time compared to our modern might. Then, how many of those few people could spend time making pyramids? They needed to farm, defend lands and other civilization like tasks. Even with way more workers, like way more, the technology doesn't seem to fit with the pace and scale of building.

      @ToxicityAssured@ToxicityAssured10 ай бұрын
  • You have some really good insights thank you❤

    @yas4435@yas443510 ай бұрын
  • It’s just amazing. So fascinating and mysterious. We could t imagine a world without the Great Pyramids

    @dougg1075@dougg107510 ай бұрын
  • Please, sir, I want some more

    @Ryne918@Ryne9188 ай бұрын
    • I know! It's coming, I promise. And some really great stuff planned for this Fall/Winter.

      @HistoryforGRANITE@HistoryforGRANITE8 ай бұрын
  • My thoughts on the largest stones have always been the same. When quarrying the stones they must have had large chunks naturally breaking off. When you have a large chunk of rock the temptation must be to shape it rather than break it down into lots of smaller pieces, and thus *much more surface area to work on.* Think about it, you're quarrying stones of around 1 to 5 tonnes and then suddenly a huge crack forms and you naturally have a much larger stone detach spontaneously, say 15 or 30 tonnes, 60, whatever. Why not simply shape that stone itself with a larger team rather than create lots of smaller stones and therefore more surface area to work on by breaking it down? If you have the capacity to move it, why not shape it and do so? I would. Especially considering that most of these very large stones are "outward" facing (barring structurally neccesary ones) and would need the surfaces worked to a greater precision. Lots of small stones means much more precision work than one massive stone. Seems totally intuitive to me.

    @ThunderChunky101@ThunderChunky10110 ай бұрын
    • By "outward facing" I mean "not filler." So the surfaces of the inner chambers etc. are "outward facing" - the builders clearly valued high precision in these stones whether or not anyone gets to see them. So when you have huge stones naturally forming in quarries, *it would be prudent and efficient to send your precision work teams to spend their labour on those stones!* It makes perfect sense to do so. It saves a LOT of highly skilled labour and as you mentioned also looks impressive. It's the rational decision. It's win/win. This all seems totally intuitive to me and it cannot have escaped the builders either, who were obviously a lot smarter than I am.

      @ThunderChunky101@ThunderChunky10110 ай бұрын
    • Intuitive _and_ common sense. You got a big almost-done block lying around taking up space in the quarry, get it out of the way and put it to good use.

      @AlbertaGeek@AlbertaGeek10 ай бұрын
  • Refreshing and fascinating analysis. I think you are on to something.

    @josephbutler1925@josephbutler192510 ай бұрын
  • excellent analysis ... well illustrated ... fun to see Mark L stepping in for an ancient observer - cheers, Stuart Wier

    @andredeloucine7857@andredeloucine78575 ай бұрын
  • Спасибо. На моём родном языке слишком много видео пропитано бредовой альтернативой. Ваш канал - глоток свежего воздуха.

    @thekost88@thekost8810 ай бұрын
  • I talked to an engineer about the interior of the great pyramid who was versed in the modern theories. He laughed and pointed out that the kings chamber was moved twice, and the final kings chamber was a nightmare of engineering. The grand gallery was potentially a massive counterweight system to get the granite slabs up to the building level. He laughed and pointed out its the earliest example of "The client wants WHAT???"

    @RSmith-sy5sz@RSmith-sy5sz10 ай бұрын
    • According to Herodotus the Egyptians were quite pissed off at the manual labour they had to do to build the pyramids. Unsurprisingly..

      @celsus7979@celsus79799 ай бұрын
    • Oh Yeah ! I could see that ! How it was elevated and was a tall tower visually, as the levels and base of the pyramid was laid down and became layered higher. Much like cranes are today on building sites but is left insitu and encased

      @Rusty_Gold85@Rusty_Gold859 ай бұрын
  • Always interesting, thanks !

    @williamglaser6577@williamglaser657710 ай бұрын
  • Another amazing film! On my visit to Egypt last year I was surprised by the enormous size of the foundation blocks of the Khafre's mortuary temple and very weather blocks that are the foundation of the pyramid of Khafre that are visible near the mortuary temple, a few looked to be more than 100 tons.

    @almaallen3497@almaallen349710 ай бұрын
    • UnchartedX has a video showing some gaps in the foundation that endlessly take sand into them. Just how big of a space could be under the massive foundation?

      @tjwest2605@tjwest260510 ай бұрын
  • I feel like after watching this episode I have a much better idea of the way the pyramid builders understood physics. Unfortunately it's not so much better that I can simply explain it in this comment. Something about how the blocks are like interconnecting puzzle pieces, and the way they tall narrowing ceilings have stacked blocks which are poking out just a little bit. Probably the first person who stacked blocks like that thought I wonder how high this can go, and then someone else came along and suggested making the blocks like interconnected puzzle pieces. I wonder what it must have been like to be a math/physics nerd back then!

    @TheOneThreeSeven@TheOneThreeSeven10 ай бұрын
  • Nobody does it better. All the ingredients for the greatest youtube channel in history are here. Every moment of every video is rivetting viewing. Thank you, that GRANITE guy!

    @Aceface101@Aceface10110 ай бұрын
  • You definitely approach these extremely ancient structures outside of the box that current "authorities" stuff them into. Very refreshing. Thank you for your great mind.

    @user-mb3md1ri5d@user-mb3md1ri5d2 ай бұрын
  • Thx for the video!

    @akacm1167@akacm116710 ай бұрын
  • One thing strikes me in my quest to figure out how these truly magnificent giant structures were built is that the guys who were on site , have to be the most dedicated , hard working crew ever assembled ! Just think of the hard labour required every single day , the heat and sandstorms , the pressures they were put under by their overseer bosses and the dangerous physical and mental strains they were working under ! It must have been horrendously challenging . So chapeau to every one of them who created unequalled perfection some 4500 odd years sgo

    @johncopeland3826@johncopeland382610 ай бұрын
    • When great pyramids were built the weather conditions were same as now in the Cameroon !!! Or you truly believe that to make the wreck of the Titanic so many divers under extreme conditions so deep in the ocean were working to assemble a huge metal structure? ;)

      @ldkbudda4176@ldkbudda417610 ай бұрын
    • hard work, yes. but also your livelihood, your reason for being, and not least the honour and pride of creating something for a living god.

      @daos3300@daos33009 ай бұрын
  • This station is the best on You Tube. Thank You. Your work is fantastic, my mouth was wide open just like this emoji😮

    @gm7304@gm73047 ай бұрын
  • As always, anonther very interesting vid. Thank you 🙂

    @Alan316100@Alan31610010 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for your analysis of the pyramids. Nothing has caused me more to ask questions in my mind of how such structures were made by bronze age people. The theories and observations you and other researchers have made show us structures that to this day defy understanding. As a lay perspective, nothing in The Great Pyramid's contstruction points to a resting place for a pharoah or king. Look at what my research has come up with to back the idea that whomever constructed the pyramid knew that one day we would be able to interpret their message: The Great Pyramid of Giza was a library, a machine, a manufacturing plant and a power structure. 1. It is 3/60th of a single degree of true north 2. It weighs 6 million tons 3. Its footprint is 13 acres 4. It is more than 755.9 feet along each side 5. The Great Pyramid is 146.75 m high, its height X a million equals the distance from the Earth to the sun 6. It has more than 2.3 million individual blocks of stone 7. It is locked into the Cardinal dimensions of our planet; The dimensions of the Earth are incorporated into its dimensions 8. If you take the height and multiply it by 43,200 you get the polar radius of the Earth 9. If you measure the base perimeter of the pyramid accurately and multiply that measurement by 43,200 you get the equatorial circumference of the Earth 10. The scale is not random, the number 43,200 is derived from a key motion of the Earth, which is called the precession of the Earth’s axis 11. The Earth wobbles on its axis very slowly at the rate of 1 degree every 72 years; 43,200 is a multiple of 72; 600 X 72 12. The Great Pyramid of Giza gives us the dimensions of the planet on a scale defined by the planet itself 13. There are several 70-ton blocks of granite from a quarry 500 kilometers away, one of hardest stones, raised 300 feet above the ground 14. It has eight sides, and at the spring equinox and the autumn equinox one side of the pyramid is in the shade in the morning and again in the late afternoon and can only be seen from the air 15. It is a calendar 16. It has expansion joints 17. It is located at the exact intersection of the longest line of latitude and the longest line of longitude of the Earth, in other words The Great Pyramid is located at the precise center of the Earth’s land mass 18. The builders possessed highly sophisticated knowledge of mathematics and geometry and they had knowledge of the true dimensions of the Earth to extreme precision 19. The builders possessed exceptionally advanced technical instrumentation (laser guided surveying tools?) to site The Great Pyramid 20. Pi = C over D Phi = Divided by 5 + 1 over 2. Archimedes discovered Pi about 250 BC, but Egyptians knew of it 2,250 years earlier 21. If you subtract the inner circle of the base from the outer circle around the base (the circumference of The Great Pyramid), you get the speed of light in meters to four decimal points: 299,792,458 meters per second 22. The weight of The Great Pyramid is 5,273, 000 tons and that multiplied by a billion is the weight of the Earth (please check your sources) 23. The three inner rooms; the king’s chamber, the queen’s chamber and the unfinished chamber under the pyramid are proportional to the distances between Mercury, Venus and the Earth 24. The distance from The Great Pyramid to the North Pole is the same as the distance from The Great Pyramid to the center of the Earth 25. If you divide the perimeter of the pyramid by 1/2 its height the result is 3.14 Pi h/2 = Pi 26. The base side length is 364.242 which is exactly the time in days it takes for the earth to orbit the sun 27. The high chamber is built on a double square, which leads us to the golden ratio geometry 28. Pyramids in China, Mexico and Egypt align with the Orion star system

    @tekannon7803@tekannon780310 ай бұрын
    • This is a very interesting subject and you really put some work and thought in it. I want it al to be true but Occams razor forbids me 🙂. The three Giza pyramids, build within a century, have all different dimensions, and more important, the ratios of these dimentions differ. So all the dimentional interpretations of the Great Pyramid, do not apply to the other 2 pyramids. So why is that? The great Pyramid was build first, so why do the later build 2 pyramids have different dimension ratio's. Seems to me that the objective was to build a very large construction that was stable, high and could be build by manpower with sleds and slopes. The dimensions of all 3 pyramids seem to be around and about, but not exactly, the Golden Ratio. This ratio is intuitive and visually pleasant for our species so it seems. So unless there are equally spectacular interpretations of the ratios of the other 2 pyramids, I think these interpretations of the dimensions and ratios of the great pyramid are just a coincidence. Perhaps Golden Ratio archtecture always ends up with some ratios we find somewhere else in the universe. That would also be a very interesting hypothesis 🙂

      @taaskeprins@taaskeprins10 ай бұрын
  • Even if the official date has me seriously doubting whether dynastic Egyptians ever built these stone mountains, the way you conducted your research and presented your conclusions is impressive. This is how the history channel should be; fantastic channel, and my thanks and respects for your apparent care and effort in preparing each upload.

    @historychannel365@historychannel36510 ай бұрын
  • Many thanks, your videos are so easy to listen to and enjoy. I love fact you don't try to shove ideas upon your viewers. Blessings to you and your work.

    @NSGca@NSGca5 ай бұрын
  • i think i realised why they put big stones above the doorway of chambers. its because if it was all the same size blocks everywhere, with one missing to crawl thru, then it would look like that entrance was just a missing stone, but with the larger stone placed above it, you can be sure the missing stone is indeed the intended entrance to it and not just a removed stone.

    @MrUnder30seconds@MrUnder30seconds9 ай бұрын
  • I see so many comments her about aliens or mysterious advanced civilizations The pyramids are basically piles of rocks. Shaped liked naturally occuring hills (though of course smoother and even). It is the easiest structure to build The internal blocks are rather rough as is visible to the naked eye. All in all the pyramids are fairly primitive. Their building requires manpower (a few thousand workers), dedication, patience and time (plus agricultural surplus to feed the workers). The egyptians had all that, no "advanced technology" needed We do not build like that anymore because we can build much better and much more effectively What sort of psychopathic alien civilization advanced enough to travel through space would arrive on earth and start piling up rocks?

    @thomasxxxxxx2345@thomasxxxxxx23458 ай бұрын
    • Using such logic, our modern skyscrappers also can be built with only man power, time and dedication.

      @danilka523@danilka5238 ай бұрын
    • Look at pyramids of 5th or 6th dynasty. Or at the pyramid of Josser, that was built just 80 years earlier than the first "big" pyramid (Meidum pyramid). Look at the size of blocks(bricks), shape, precision etc. And compare this to any "big" pyramid. This is the limit of manpower. The level of stone work, precision of the interior spaces, geometric proportions, etc cant be achieved using only time and patience. Im not even talking about all geodesic works needed to prepare the foundation. Logistics should be also at a high level to perform such work. All this in total makes a reasonable question how people almost 5k years ago were able to build this superstuctures, that would be realy difficult to replecate even today. And the fact that there are only indirect evidences (and only a few) of pyramids being built by ancient Egyptians.

      @danilka523@danilka5238 ай бұрын
    • @@danilka523 It is not difficult to replicate, they built 3 of them in Giza alone. And given a budget , it would be easy to do the same or better today. There is nothing outstanding about the stone work. Modern stone workers can replicate it with copper tools (such as the Egyptians had) and have done so in several experiments Geometric proportions are a simple matter only the most basic of instruments are required (as an example, there are only straight lines, no circular structures which are always more tricky by nature) There is plenty of direct evidence for the Egyptians building the pyramids: quarries, workers village and all kinds of texts including the papyrus of Merer "The hieroglyphic letters inscribed in the logbook were written more than 4,500 years ago by a middle-ranking inspector named Merer who detailed over the course of several months the construction operations for the Great Pyramid, which was nearing completion, and the work at the limestone quarries at Tura on the opposite bank of the Nile River. Merer’s logbook, written in a two-column daily timetable, reports on the daily lives of the construction workers and notes that the limestone blocks exhumed at Tura, which were used to cover the pyramid’s exterior, were transported by boat along the Nile River and a system of canals to the construction site, a journey that took between two and three days. The inspector, who led a team of sailors, also noted that the vizier Ankhhaef, Khufu’s half-brother and the “chief for all the works of the king,” was overseeing the enormous construction project" www.history.com/news/egypts-oldest-papyri-detail-great-pyramid-construction

      @thomasxxxxxx2345@thomasxxxxxx23458 ай бұрын
  • You lost me as soon as you attributed the pyramids to Egyptians. That’s wrong. They found them, they didn’t build them.

    @mlharlowful@mlharlowful10 ай бұрын
    • Yup

      @madness198648@madness1986489 ай бұрын
    • Makes sense. No engravings or drawings of how they were built because they didn't build them.

      @bob.bobman@bob.bobman8 ай бұрын
    • WTF is this guy talking about? Shallow modern logic. 😂

      @bob.bobman@bob.bobman8 ай бұрын
  • Yes! I love this channel! Watching this immediately!

    @Space_Trucker@Space_Trucker10 ай бұрын
  • As always I really enjoy your videos.

    @Auggies1956@Auggies19569 ай бұрын
  • Scratch marks and imperfections can be very telling. Course arrangement is also very telling, that’s a reason I love what you’re doing. Again I’m a mason, an extra rounded corner tells me things. Often , I don’t look directly at these things , but at the joints

    @veryveracoacha1832@veryveracoacha18329 ай бұрын
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