Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV review after 23000 - still good!?
PLEASE NOTE: I made a mistake and said that this car has a CVT. It doesn't however the driving experience when the engine is on can feel a lot like a CVT car. Sorry about the mistake!
So what is a plug in hybrid or PHEV? This is a video review of the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, a car that I have owned and driven for over 23000 miles. It's a big, solid, well-built practical family car designed to save fuel and to help the environment but without any of the range anxiety often suffered by drivers of pure electric cars.
If you are new to the world of EV driving then this video explains the concept of a plug in hybrid electric car. The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV is one of the world's most successful plug in hybrid cars featuring a small battery and a petrol engine.
But, is it still relevant and a good concept in 2020 several years after the original version was released!? We will find out in this video!
0:00 Intro
1:38 What is a PHEV
4:03 How does it work?
5:46 Fuel and electrical economy
9:20 How to charge the Outlander PHEV
11:22 Good and bad points
14:28 Conclusion
Totally brilliant review everything I wanted to know explained clearly thanks so much
Glad it was helpful!
Hi just seen your post about the Mitsubishi if you drive one electric if you go over 30 miles per hour does the engine kick in it is it only when you have reached 30 miles it kicks in thanks
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If you buy used: 1.Change the generator fluid (it's cvt j4 fluid but this vehicle does not have a cvt) 2. Change the front and rear differential fluid (SP-3 transmission fluid) 3.Change the oil every 3k (I don't care what the book says, do it every 3k with full synthetic) 4.Have a qualified mechanic check your ground wires for corrosion. I'm a ASE master tech that has 2 outlanders, these are my suggestions.
Would anybody be interested in me making a KZhead channel just on the Mitsubishi Outlander phev maintenance?
@@Defiantsynthetics Yes definitely. Where would you buy the cvt j4 fluid and sp3 fluid in the UK?
there isn no need to change oil every 3k specially on a vehicle which has motor.
3k oil change is unnecessary. If it is necessary you have a problem
Thanks
Superb review! You give great insight in how it is to live with this car.
Thank you for such a detailed story and pleasant voice.
One of best review I came across for this car , nicely explained to realistic use rather than company figures Good work
What an excellently made review, a real change from the sales pitch reviews from secondhand car salesman that are rife on YT. This gives plus points and minus points and all the information is given in a clear and understandable way. Thank you.
Excellent take on things! A no bullshit review, real world. Thanks for that!
Very fair summation of the Mitsubishi Phev. We have had one for 18 months and our findings are identical. It’s quiet, well made and we love how quiet and free of rattles it is. Our experience is that we do get 30 miles on a full charge in summer mixed motoring 18-20 in the winter. We try wherever possible to use electric mode around town and have had the mpg up in the high 90-98 mpg. Fully ICE mode on a long motorway trip saw 39mpg, usually it hovers in the mid to high 40’s. Our previous diesel averaged 48mpg so the electric boost shows how close the performance over the petrol PHEV is to that. We live in rural Lincolnshire with few charging points, we too want to go fully electric and that will happen when the infrastructure is there to support full EV use. For now the PHEV is a good compromise especially as we use it in electric mode whenever possible, aided by our solar panels and judicious use of Octopus Go and the cheap 5p rate. PHEV’s do have a place in weaning people from ICE to full electric and whilst we appreciate that some question the need for a car with two kinds of propulsion and say it’s wasteful, for us we have proved that we have lessened our harmful emissions and also paid out less in fuel fees. Others may not do that, it depends on how far you travel using the ICE engine and how often you charge. It’s an option though to try an electric car without range anxiety.
Great review, i thoroughly enjoy my Outlander - A great family car!
Great review, no nonsense and giving a balanced account of the pros and cons of the car. Very useful for someone considering to buy one. For future videos, I might suggest leaving out the background music that was present in some parts; for me it was just slightly distracting.
We just bought a 2022 PHEV and are finding our way through all the details.Really enjoyed your clear and concise explanation. Thank you.
Excellent honest review. Thanks for taking the time and effort, to make this video. I am now looking for a review from somebody who tows a caravan with this car.
Thanks a lot 🙂👍 I'm looking for a used one right now and this was a lot of help.
Thank you for sharing your views it encouraged me to purchase one which will soon arrive
I'm considering this vehicle for my very short commute (10Km total) most of the year and the occasional travel, which I wouldn't mind paying for as a regular gas vehicle.
Fantastic video mate! Good stuff! Thank you!
Must say your review is very helpful. Considering one now .
Excellent review - thank you for your video
fantastic review. Thanks from down under!
I bought a second hand 2014 Outlander PHV in 2018. I absolutely love the car and the amount of money it saves me. No road tax and all my journeys are short so I only fill it with petrol once every 3 months. I only get 20 miles on electric charge on the 2014 model so now looking to upgrade to a newer model with a larger battery. It's a lovely car to drive and plenty of room for our 4 dogs.
If you wait just a little longer you can snag the new 2023 Outland PHEV in 2022. It’s completely redesigned to look like the new Outlander and get better range plus way more amenities can be had with it.
@@JGBecknell Thanks, I'll wait now you've told me that.
Hi, I only get about 20 miles of range on average ( especially as the weather gets colder ) with a 2019 model so I would just hang on to the one you have until a much better 2nd hand alternative is available :)
@@TheSilk661 their wont be any outlanders in the UK if you are in the UK
@@Artyt2024 I am in the UK, do you mean the new model?
Thank you from France for your presentation. I am about to buy this car and you are conforting my choice.
Great video. Many thanks and hi from New Zealand
Sad to see Mitsubishi pulling out of Europe. I love my Mitsubishi 2016 phev, very jealous of your ev button. Great review.
Thank you. You’ve made my mind up 😊
It's a great review. Thank you very much. I'm sold, I will hopefully buy one very soon.
Great review, thanks for sharing👍
Great video,very informative as we're thinking of buying one.
Great review. Thinking of buying one but now I may wait for full electric VW here in Canada
great review mate, im thinking of getting one!
Thanks for sharing because my family is considering getting one in April.
thank you so much, going to buy tomorrow, because of this video.,
Brilliant review! I'm taking delivery of mine in a couple of weeks (lockdown permitting) This review really helped. Thanks
How’d you get on with it ?
Thank you mate, I'm in the process.of buying a new family car and this is one of the options that just might take the win thanks to this review. I live in London and use car mostly for nursery runs, going to parka.or shop, so it seams to me Id be driving electric 95% of.the time.
This is just the best - thanks!
Great review and very helpful
Brilliant review!!
Thank you very much for your wonderful video Well explained 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Great video Very informative 👍🏼
Check the video in a few days cause the way you conveyed millage figures was confusing. I suspect you were giving the same info in a slightly different manner but it was confusing nevertheless. I said it before but your a natural at making videos.
Wonderful review! Thx!
Great review I have 2019 5hs and I love it ❤
Got my 2nd hand 2017 2.0 Outlander a month ago. Love it. Yes - i do like to keep it running on electric .. You say the engine is noisy but to be fair - its still quieter than my Honda CRV. It does feel a little different once the engine kicks in, may be not quite as smooth as electric mode but again, not a great deal of difference. If I didnt keep looking at the energy flow screen, Id probably not even notice. In fact the only time i notice engine noise is when Im accelerating up a hill and the engine kicks in trying to generate more electric (not running direct to the wheels) All in all it was well worth the switch to hybrid from full fuel and as I only do about 25 miles a day to and from work, it hardly ever needs to drive directly using petrol. Pre heating the car while its still plugged in at home before setting off in the morning and not over using the heater while driving really helps with the driving range.
Great tip re the heater!
Great review!
Excellent! Well explained 👏
Great review thanks
Excellent summary based on your experience as an owner and not just a reviewer that's borrowed one for a day/week. Well done for stressing that a PHEV will only suit some people's needs and that a certain mindset will help owners to get the best from a PHEV. I WAS planning to buy an Outlander PHEV as it ideally suits my needs, but I've been put off by Mitsubishi's decision to pull out of Europe, especially as I tend to keep my cars for about 10 years, e.g. possible future problems with availability of spares and dealer support, plus lowering residual values. I'd appreciate your thoughts on this as a current owner.
thanks for the review, I like my car, and I got through 2 months without filling up the tank
perfect video ....many thanks
Living in a rural community with only a few charging spots this would work very well for me. I would be able to charge at home too. but since we have larger distances (Canada). For regular daily driving I would be able to drive in EV mode, but have hybrid mode for long distances. And living in a hilly region too, the engine breaking would be great. I know you find it irritating with the engine starting up, but coming from a gas only I would love this.
Thanks, good review.
Good review, thanks. Interesting that the engine is just a generator to generate electricity for both the front and rear ev motors when needed unlike most if not all other plugin hybrids. Was thinking of getting this or the new kuga, will probably go for the outlander.
Actually, the ICE (gas engine) could work either as generator only or as propulsor. The review states wrongly that the Outlander has a CVT gearbox, while there is no gearbox for the ICE (there is something much more complex, but no gears!). So, the ICE could push the car ONLY above a certain speed (it’s like to have only the 5th gear!), at lower speed the car goes with the electrical engines, and the energy for that comes either from the battery or from the generator. Same for the reverse.
thank you so much, very useful
Thanks for the video - what sort of economy do you see on a motorway run? And how often do you charge on said runs?
If anyone on this post has some real world questions on how well (or not) the PHEV Mitsubishi does in both warm and very cold climates, please feel free to ask away. My wife drives one 2019 Mitsubishi PHEV and I drive an identical one (same year but different color) since new. These are both leased vehicles and our first real world tests, particularly in cold weather. We live in Minnesota if that tells you anything. One vehicle has just over 11,000 miles on it and the second one has over 15,000 miles on it. The first year we kept both in a heated garage for both warm and cold weather testing. The second year, both vehicles stayed outside for both warm and cold weather testing. I needed to know this information myself personally to learn if electric cars (with a back up generator) was the way to go or not for our very cold state. Our consensus is in. We love the recharge capabilities of the limited ranged PHEV’s. Works fine in warm weather trips to town (roughly 15 miles round trip) for local errands on the charged lithium batteries. Cold weather is a game changer however. With lights on, heaters, electric seats and blowers running and sometimes the windshield wipers, the cold weather puts a heavy load on the batteries (as we expected). They don’t last long. Even if we had a much larger capable battery, I can see this climate limits battery use. Thank goodness for the gasoline backup generator that keeps us going or we would be sitting at the side of the road like a Tesla owner running around showing off his fast sprints ahead that uses lots of power in any climate. Basically in a nutshell, fossil fuels along with a battery combination is a must need in the colder climates, just as I suspected all along if you want to drive an electric car. We have plenty of miles on both short and long trips to prove our shared analysis with you. But all in all, we are happy with the Mitsubishi PHEV’s. Now in just less than two years, we have to make the two decisions to hand the keys to the dealer or purchase them. By the way, if anyone is wondering how they pull trailers, they work just fine for that. We had the dealer install hitches on both. Again, this was a real world test for us personally to see how they handle and run.
Thank you from Canada 🇨🇦 I very from appreciate your specifics.
What range were you actually getting on fully electric before engine kicked in? I bought a 2016 model last week but only getting 17 miles in summer and driving efficiently
Great video 👍...I know time has passed since you did this video but could you tell me if there any squeeks and or rattles?
Hi loved the review as I'm thinking of buying this same car so it has been good. If I can make some comments on a quiet professional video. A little more views of the car, what seating is like in the back, boot space, controls etc, also when showing the history of fuel usage don't do it while driving you are looking at the viewer while also keeping a view out for the road, stop and do the section as part of the review it looks better. I also think the display is dated as the car originally it the road in the early around 10-15 years ago in petrol or diesel and that could be mentioned. Thanks
As an owner of a 2016 model for 5 years I will say that this is probably the best review I've seen/read for this car. Mine does not benefit from the slightly more efficient engine and larger battery of the 2018 model but the majority of comments are exactly the same. I wish I had the Pure EV switch too as it is annoying when it chooses to switch on the engine if I apply just a little too much acceleration and it is incredibly frustrating when below 10C the engine kicks in if the heater is switched on. I also fully understand that the engine seems loud when it kicks in but that is partly because it is unusually quiet in general and especially when in EV mode so more noticeable. It has been a great car and I am happy to keep it for a few more years.
so in 2016 there is no option to run the car just on electricity?
Durability?
It’s the best of both worlds for a lot of people, I have the 2.4l with the slightly bigger battery, I can go to work and back twice and a shopping trip in summer if I’m lucky, that’s all of my normal driving on electricity, I use around a tankful of petrol every 2/3 months. I go North to see my family 2 or 3 times a year, I drive it like a normal car (except for using the paddles to slow down) for the 600 mile round trip and it’s as good as most SUV’s fuel wise. It’s also a great load carrier and very quiet and comfortable in both the front and back seats, I also like the fact that there is no transmission or gears, it uses 2 electric motors (1 for each axle) and there is just so much less to go wrong or need servicing.
Great review. Thinking of buying a second hand one. Any reports of batteries loosing ability to hold charge on older ones?
Helpful, thanks
The annoyance while switching from electric to internal combustion engine is because of the dynamics of the chassis with a heavy battery pack installed at the bottom of the car’s chassis that was once designed for an old internal combustion engine only. So, it has nothing to do with your feelings but the dynamics of sitting on an old style platform which is now carrying a heavy battery pack, lowering the centre of gravity of the car. So it will be an issue until car manufacturers totally redesign the chassis to offer a proper hybrid car.
I miss my Outlander - it was easy to drive, comfortable, had decent boot space and enough EV range to easily cover my commute. Surprisingly capable in the snow as well. If anyone has YV68 JHH, take care of her and look out for Ainsley 😁
Why did you sell it
@@boyasaka Company car, replaced every 3 years. Would have had another if Mitsi hadn’t dumped on the European market.
@@MagicRat o I see Is its replacemnt as good ?
Helpful 👍
Seriously considering one of these now that diesel is 20p+ more per litre than petrol - tied with Solar PV and the slightly bigger battery, I was particularly interested in the manner in which it can either charge or use the engine - the mpg figures on just petrol was also useful to know as this would be the break even - the pure electric driving is a bonus for me...thanks
Thanks 👍
We easily get 1.6L/100km in ours, including driving between cities (200km each time). This includes using the AC all the time, as it's hot in the Australian summer. This is a very comfortable car to own, in every sense.
Yes agreed! And a great way to reduce fuel consumption
I'm calling BS on that....I own one since years it's 5-8 L/100km and now with Victoria's ev tax it costs even more.sell it as soon as you can
@@csukas40 Why is it BS? After almost a year it's down to 1.4L/100km. Why would I sell it, this is the best car I've ever owned.
@@Secretlyanothername You are doing short short trips and plugging in your battery every day. It would be a typical gas guzler trying to drive across Australia on a long trip on those straight flat roads.
@@brettymike Elsewhere I've read 40mpg on the open road, so presumably on petrol as the battery would run out pretty quickly.... which works out to ~6l/100km... about the same as my wife's CX-5 petrol.... better than my '86 VL commodore though at 10l/100km :)
Very nice 👌
@ShortCircuit Many of your frustrations sounds very familiar. I drive the Volvo 2019 V60 T8 PHEV. It's has 10.4kWh battery with 38km in winter and 45km in Summer. The system itself is very well designed and transitions are really good. The good thing about it is that navigation is smart and when you put in a location and use waypoints it will divide the battery capacity over the whole trip if you can't charge at your destination. Too bad that this feature isn't prominent in the manual, so hardly anyone knows about it. I have driven it for 14.000km and the average fuel consumption is 3.1l/100km, so I drive it electric most of the time. This week I even and an alert that said 'Aged fuel, start engine to consume fuel'. I ignored it and after 1 trip it forced the engine on in the next trip and stayed on this until the tank was empty enough to refuel. The V60 doesn't have paddles but it has a B stand for regenerative braking. On a 38km trip I usually manage to regenerate 1 to 1.5kWh back into the battery. Electric consumption is mostly around 22kWh/100km. It's a nice car but I can't wait until our Polestar arrives :)
That's great! I actually considered getting the car you have just over a year ago. I do love the phev concept but it convinced me that full electric was the way to go.
thanks
Nice rewiew 👍 But outlander pehv: there is no such part as CVT.. only engine & generator & clutch that connects directly to the front wheels over 65km/h
Tell me more about how these work plz
excellent.
I am now onto my 2nd Outlander PHEV on lease. 2016 2.0l 3Hs for 4 years 2019 ( 69 plate ) 2.4l 4H from 1st march 2020. First one I was very frustrated with. My fault somewhat for picking the lower trim level. Winter eRange not good. However, current 4H with 2.4 L engine is 100% better !. I Love it ! Longer range on electric and petrol, far far better trim etc etc.. In lockdown I have only been making short journeys and the car told me to go and refresh the tank !!!! I would highly recommend this car but be aware of what has ben pointed out in this video !
Incredibly helpful comment. Thanks. Test drive needs booking
I bought a 2016 last week but I'm only getting about 18 miles on full electric, is this right or should I get my battery checked?
@@MrPaddytrueno Hi, likely not needed, battery range is dependant on how it has most recently been driven so I would wait until you have driven it for a while and see then. Long trips on A roads with max regen is what I found is best to get a higher battery range. Cheers Richard
Hmm sounds good, but the 2.4l version uses more petrol then the 2.0l version does or is it not worth to mention..? I'm in doubt. I pretty much only ride 12km's a day so I could do 2 days without plugging in..
@@DzasterNL Hi Actually I have found the 2.4 to be more fuel efficient than the 2.0 Run of 155 miles recently showed 42mpg
Hi, how does the 2014 compare to the 2015 facelift? comfort wise? :)
We are looking at this car. Could you tell me if the passenger has power seat controls?
I'm looking at buying a used PHEV, for my budget would be 5years old. Have you noticed a degrade in the battery over the years you've owned it?
What lapel mic do you use?
Very helpful review. How do you track oil change intervals? For an internal combustion engine, normally an oil change is based on elapsed distance. It could also be based on operating hours. Is there a prompt from the vehicle that tells you when the oil needs to be changed? Likewise, with brake fluid, if I use regenerative braking then the brake fluid would not see as much use.
I'm curious to know about the oil change interval also. Engine hours seems logical (that's what marine engines etc. use). As for the brake fluid IMO it's good to change that periodically as it can absorb moisture and cause corrosion in the braking system regardless of how much you use it.
Helpful. Most journeys 5 to 15 miles in London with ULEZ - groceries, visit and lifts for: adult children who can't drive due to health, elderly disabled friends, timber and tools for large DiY projects. Plus 1 long weekend a month to son and his family in remote north Wales - 240 miles ending in winding hilly lanes with tools for DiY jobs, bicycle, and, maybe, tent. Not sure there's anything else on the market. Ford do a van but not with rear seats and windows
Any other alternative cars with this same functionality in UK / same price ?
I guess with the PHEV vehicles, it depends a lot on your daily commute length. If you live in a rural/vast area, or need to do a lot of highway driving to get to work, might not be so great. I personally live in a calm neighborhood of a big city (Montreal). My work is like 5-6km (3-4?miles?) from home, the groceries, convenience stores, drugstores, and restaurants I go to are mostly within 2-3km, some are up to 10 km (6 miles?) from my place, and most of my family is within 30 km (20 miles?) from my place as well, in smaller towns, with some highways between us, or a shorter(distance), but longer(time) trips staying on city roads only, and a few activities I do around 100km (60miles) from my place. So for all my regular commute, the Outlander will be fully EV for me, no problem at all. When I visit my family, I can stay EV in town between my place and the highway, get up to speed on the highways, then let the gas engine coast me to their place, recharging the batteries a but, and then return to EV mode in their town up to their home, and back to my place. Compared to my old thirsty Subaru (especially in city driving), this is no gas at all! Then for my longer commute to my remote activities, same thing as the family visits, but using a bit more gas. However, you never need to plan your charging in advance. If I want to go to Gaspesie, 500+ miles in one direction from my place.. I can just leave right now and drive until I get there basically, just stopping for quick gas fillups. With a pure EV... that trip has to be planned... and charging sessions are long. The concept of a PHEV is very cool to me. I know some companies are working on electric-hydrogen hybrid vehicles. Hydrogen is a bit scary, but it is almost 100% green. If we had solid Hydrogen infrastructure... This would be the best-ever solution! purely EV on short trips... and poop water vapor on longer ones XD.
I was quite blown away when he said in the video the car knows when the fuel is getting a bit old in the tank and will use it lol
How much range has been lost as the battery aged?
Hello: You gave some practical info on this car. However, I really don't understand how the "breaks" thingi works. Maybe I don't know the jargoons you have used or something.
Imagine the regenerative braking as the engine braking you would have in a regular manual car or a big twin motorcycle. If you drove in 1st-2nd gear the engine would certainly stop the car if no gas is applied. That would be similar to what B5 regenerative braking does, BUT the PHEV uses that braking to recharge the battery. The lower the B number, the lower the engine braking and thus the lower the recharge.
There are companies who will do conversions of ICE cars to full electric, and there will be more in future. I wonder if, in a few years time, we'll see PHEVs like the Outlander being converted to full electric, at which point they'll also benefit from receiving more advanced battery technology and management systems. Bradley, if you see this, would you consider having such a conversion done on your Outlander? Do you think it would be worth it?
Curious you say it cannot charge in less than 3hrs- I was under the impression a unique feature of the Outlander PHEV is its ability to Rapid Charge in 30min?
I'm considering buying this as my first car. Would you recommend for someone without plug-in capability at home, i.e. charging only on engine/brakes? I figure it would still save me a lot in fuel costs. What attracts me to this car is its size, quietness, and affordability. Thanks
Excellent review, I have one question, if I charge to full and on daily basis I have only 4,5km to drive, I can use it for the whole week without charging again, or will discharge few percent automatically? Many thanks!
You need an electric bike dud, for that destination
@@Rafi385 or a push scooter 🛴
It depends on where you live, the battery performance is affected by cold weather and using the air conditioning also reduces your range. I do a 13 km round trip to work and back and I can do it twice with some spare capacity in the summer for a shopping trip. I usually have a longer trip every 3/4 months and use it like a normal car then, it uses the fuel every 3 months or so anyway to prevent fuel degradation (this is an automatic process, I don’t have to do anything). I haven’t noticed any loss over the weekend if I don’t use it so I think that you’ll get a full week of 20+ km without any problems.
I'm currently eyeing a used 2018 Outlander PHEV w/130,000 miles on it. It's a pristine 1-owner vehicle. I'm tempted. How well do these hold up?
Was hoping to learn about the passenger space and boot
How long would you need to drive it on engine power to fully charge the battery?
My worry is battery life. I'm considering a 2014 model and it's done 130,000 miles. Would it be a money pit?
Thank you re the ride as in suspension is it bumpy because of weight of batteries?
Firmer springs to carry the weight = harsher ride
So, is 54 mile range of the 2023 enoph? 2023 is supposed to have 20kW battery as a typical EV is about 4 times bigger.
Thanks, was a very useful video . I bought a USED 2015 Outlander PHEV auto. I love the car. Like you i do not much care when the engine kicks in. My problem is I am stuck in Sri Lanka due to the current Corvid issue, and ended up buying this lovely car. Down side is that the dis[lay is in Japanese. I would love to bring this car back with me to UK. How do I convert the display to English ?? Would I have to change the SD card , if so do you know where I could get one from?? Would appreciate your help.
Machang, Not sure if you've come across this video. Depends on the version. Have a look. kzhead.info/sun/n61-qqVrjpaqZJE/bejne.html
How long can the gas engine go on without using them.? Can it go for weeks and weeks if I use the car only use electric mode only. Thanks
Hello. About the regenerative braking, if i were going downhill that never ends and i start from 0% battery, can it fully charge the car
Thank you for only useful review of Outlander. Who's after PHEV surely loks for everything you said and doesn't really care about how many USB outlets are for back seat passengers. Your comments about mileage and range in EV mode are far far more better info than how it goes through fast corners. It's heavy and bulky electric SUV and not sports car. I hate Outlander reviews where reviewers (Mat Watson i.ex.) talk about in how oldish style rear seats recline. Who cares for that? This is vehicle for saving money.
I just watched this video after mat’s review . Completely agree with you. This is not competing with German expensive suvs .
Is the older 2014 model any good?
Max "Series Hybrid mode speed" The Outlander PHEV ?
is there speed limit when only run on electric mode??
I bought a 3 your old one 5 years ago. It has now done 304,600+ miles. Still on original battery! Yes the battery is now down to 57% and prity much dead but other than that it is still running very nicely. Update now on 306900 miles. Lol
Oh wow, is there no way of having the battery reconditioned? Also, what's gone wrong with it over them 306k miles? Just wanting to know how reliable these are as also considering one.
@@solefreak2 good answer
@@solefreak2yes there is but they only replace the lowest capacity cells. This is useful if you only have a few lpw cells in the pack. According to my software I have 3 or 4 cels that have developed very low capacity but also one whole block which are all lower than the rest of the pack. So a full recon would cost close to £1000 inc vat and they might charge more if they are replacing whole blocks of battery cells. I will go for a full replacement pack from a low milage vehicle. That will cost more initially but then when I sell the old pack as 57% original capacity to someone wanting a home battery storeage system I should recover some of my money. And it should cost less overall.
@@williamarmstrong7199 Where are you buying the replacement battery from - salvage? Also, how hard is it to swap out the battery? Who would do this work?
@@solefreak2yes from a reputable recyler. Now on 310,500 miles!
Hi, was intrigued as currently looking at hybrids and plug in hybrids. I was looking at the running costs section and it would appear that the benefits of having a plug in are much reduced in our current climate. Using £1.80 for a litre of petrol and 50p/kWh, it works out at 20.25p/mile for petrol vs 20p/mile for electric. I am assuming that electricity will jump to 50p/kWh as projected with the energy price cap increases. I'm wondering if just a hybrid (i.e. not a "plug in" hybrid) would be better option right now?
It’s around 38p now but fuel also fallen down to 1.59