"Adesanya is still the best middleweight" Dan Hardy UFC 297 Reaction & Scoring
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People can attempt to devalue Adesanya, but there is a reason Alex and DDP called him out. the man is active, and he takes the hardest fights he can to prove his worth. He beat his biggest rivals, and he was lapping the division. Haters are gonna hate, tho.
Who devalues Adesanya?
@@loveroflife1914 You're seriously asking that?
He is the money fight, that's why they call him out.
yeah because middleweight is such a strong division lol imagine a division where vettori fights for a title lol. Izzy is just lucky there's no decent wrestler in MW. People always says Strickland has a low finish rate but so does Adenasya. Whittaker destoyed Vettori Gastelum and Cannonier better than Izzy, the only reason he couldn't beat Izzy is the size disavantage. Also he's always running backwards. Anyways he got fraud check by Strickland. He's just happened to be the best of a bad bunch. Costa is lame too. Overrated.
@@kall745Yeah the point is now you're saying that once he lost to Strickland, which happens. Sometimes a fighter who's worse on paper puts on a great performance that's why MMA is so great. No one was talking about Izzy like he was a fraud when he cleared out the division or Ko'd Pereira.
Izzy is already one of the GOAT and he ain't even done yet.
I 100% agree and it's kind of been annoying watching so many people continuously try undermine or deny his accomplishments purely because they think he's cringy. As somebody who's been a big fan of his ever since he first showed up in UFC, it's always bugged me that so many people regularly bemoan him while letting much worse behavior from others pass.
Thank you this needed to be said
“Much worse behaviour” what’s much worse than molesting your pet?
He’s lost 2 out of 3… stop
@@JS-xx9pt This is is a silly argument considering that He was clearly up 4-1 against Peieria in the first fight before the knockout.
Seriously it's exhausting. He has to be the most undeservedly hates UFC fighter. He's done nothing but elevate the company and give the community good matchups, and yet so many are desperate to act as though he's this terrible stain and it's like, do you even understand greatness when it's in front of you?
I think you're right about Adesanya. That's why DDP immediately called him out...and good on DDP. That's the fight with which you really prove yourself in MW. I know Strickland dominated Izzy in their fight and Izzy seemed to have no answers. But I also think Izzy could give a MUCH better account of himself in any return match.
izzy knocks ddp out without problem! mma math doesnt work and its styles that make fights!
When you take hard fights consistently,you’re bound to have a off night 😮fighting requires everything one opening and you’re done
Both guys looked really beatable. With either one as champ the division seems wide open.
Everyone is beatable. It's just a question of when.
@@acornsucks2111 Everyone is beatable. But there are fights were you watch a champ destroy an opponent everyone thought would be tough and you just think "who has the skills to beat this guy" a bit like Usman before or Leon in this recent fights. Izzy in his first title reign. Fighters that look unbeatable. Both of these guys looked like half the division could have beaten them if they had been in there instead.
Adesanya is still the best middleweigt no doubt .
I guess izzy just gets unlimited title shots 😂 2 out of his last 3 title fights were losses. Who else gets beat, doesn't take the immediate rematch for once then as soon as the belt changes hands he gets to go right back into a title fight against a diff champion without getting a win 1st 😂 Sounds like privilege to me
For what he has done for the UFC, he deserves it!
If nothing else because he sent Alex up
@kshark7934 bs... nobody else can lose 2 out his last 3 title fights and still be talking about another title fight. Especially since he passed on his last chance bc he knew he got embarrassed so badly. If anyone else was treated like that u kno what u would be saying so just quit 😆
He has 9 world championships in the UFC you bent. Sean couldn't even defend it once. Alex couldn't defend it at MW once. Rob Whittaker only defended once against the same man he beat to claim it. The most active champion in the UFC. Made the UFC buckets of cash. Who else deserves it? Sean has lost three fights to people in the top five with a 25% success rate. against the top five so far. khamzat who hasn't beaten a top-five guy at MW. Rob or Costa, who have both not strung wins together, had to pull out of fights and lost to Izzy and the champ convincingly? Izzy gave Sean a gift as he was ranked outside the top five and he has already bottled it. DDP and Izzy were meant to fight and they haven't yet of course it's the fight to make. It is not a privilege when it has been earned in blood sweat, tears, profits and accolades. You don't make any sense.
@kshark7934 He deserves nothing.He just gets favoured cause he wears pearls and nail polish and the ufc wants to do a bud light!
UFC middleweight history stats : Israel Adesanya 1st longest av fight time : 17:49 knockdowns landed (13) tied with Silva 2nd : win streak (12) 2nd titles fight (11) 2nd fight night bonuses (8) 3rd total fight time (5:15:15) 3rd most sg strikes landed (1070)
By running around the cage, leg kicking at range...
@@SatoshiShintoMe takes training to learn how to do those things, but you wouldn't know. That's probably why you can't name any other of his qualities. You just can't see them.
@@SatoshiShintoMe You literally are describing an element of kickboxing. it's almost like he's a kickboxer.
@@AvionAwsome fr.. they're stimulated by concussions and 8 month long physical therapies. Head to your local bar around midnight, I'm positive you'll find what you're looking for there.
who gives a fck about the stats. his reign was in the weakest division in ufc history and big majority of those fights were boring as hell! izzy is good but lets not pretend he is one of the best ever. most overrated champion ever!
he’s 1-2 in his last three middleweight fights….
I reckon this is a silly take, izzy got caught in the 5th round of a fight he was winning vs a Light heavyweight Alex In the rematch, Izzy put a stamp on it, way before round 5 Izzy put a factory reset on the guy that put Strickland out cold in less than 10 minutes. And Izzy had an off night vs Strickland and went the distance. Who has Sean beaten before he fought izzy ?
That is such reductionist BS - He is the most active champion we have ever seen, keeping an unreal schedule and unlike Usman and so many others avenged his loss which is extremely hard to do. Before that he was 9 straight... Vettori, Tavares, Brunson, Silva, Gastelum, Whittaker, Romero, Costa, Vettori, Whittaker, Cannonier, Alex in record time. Meanwhile, Sean Strickland has lost to DDP, Cannonier, Alex 3 out of his last four against top five guys. Proof it is not easy to stay and remain at the top. You will eventually have guys kmowing or training exclusively for you, your style and studying you or coming across a style that you can't crack or have an off performance. WAKE Up mate
@@mrmolloy all that may be true … but the fact remains he has 2 losses out of the last 3 fights , and should have to fight at least one time before he gets another title shot.
If you want to cherry pick 3 fights then sure but in reality he's 13-2 in the UFC with a bunch of successful title defenses.
@@drummingtildeath none of that matters once you lose. and to say that citing his three most recent fights is “cherry picking” is pretty hilarious.
nope.
Only time will tell. Thanks for the upload!
He is by far the best active middleweight. No cap.
Agreed. Of all time even.
Evolution of any field happens from those on the edges pushing the boundaries not those in the centre. Martial Arts/MMA evolve not by the technically proficient in the middle but by mavericks like DDP & Strickland. A Philly shell, narrow muay thai stance and a jab disarm the beautiful technical correct striking of most pro's. There's beauty in that.
Well said!
Fair point
For me, the new champ is a placeholder until he defends against the long reigning champ. DDP (and Sean) are placeholders until they beat Izzy again
I agree, his ko on Alex who is now the lhw champ has aged like wine.
Even though people don't like him, undermine his accomplishments it will never take away the fact that he's the only two time MW champion.
I knew they were about to come at you when I saw the title lol
Dan knows he’s a legend
U are correct. I saw the Izzy Strickland fight like the Amanda and Pena fight something seemed off. Nonetheless I can see Izzy adapting and overcome Strickland if they ever ran that back. In the end Izzy was preparing for DDP and took Strickland to keep that card alive. If they did it again Izzy would win. His fight IQ is on another level and he would capitalize like his rematch with Alex. Nothing more to say...
*Coping hard after watching the striking wizard getting embarrassed on the feet for 24/25 minutes by Strickland. He wasn't even the best in the division before getting demolished by Sean*
ironic because your coping hard from Strickland getting his ass kicked by ddp
Ah yes. I'm sure Dan Hardy is coping hard about izzys loss because he's clearly overly obsessed with him and can't bear seeing him lose. I don't know what rock bottom level of self awareness is required to write a comment like you did without understandig you're project your own obsessions with fighters onto someone who's a fan of the sport as a whole. But no, you're right. I'd actually rather believe James Thompson the pewdiepie watcher when he tells me what Dan hardys 'reall' trying to say, instead of just listening to and interpreting the words that he himself says.
It’s just his opinion bud, it’s not that deep lmao
@trinidaddy All that to defend the analyst who predicted Sean would get styled on by Izzy, then watched Izzy receive a striking master-class by Sean - and now maintains his original view that Izzy is far better than Sean
@Dizzy808 I was supporting DDP, and had money on him. Though the judges, media and fans are split down the middle over who won the fight - if you want to see a real ass beating watch Sean vs Izzy (also shows you how easily DDP would deal with Izzy)
I still feel nobody at 185 will beat DDP. Literally nobody.
izzy would be a very bad matchup. with that lunging forward style while throwing strikes would make very easy to izzy to find his chin!
I actually agree with this statement He might be a trash person, but he is still the best 185 out there, and he might actually beat dricus
This has got to be the worst take in the MMA. Community no wonder the UFC fired you, your judgement is trash
Just cause he didn't say what you wanted to hear you're all upset, why don't you leave the basement and run to Mama 😂😂😂
@@Dhagobacayr74 no because it's a terrible take
Sadly, Strickland made Adesanya look bang average, he simply could not deal with Strickland. And I wanted Adesanya to win that fight.
1. Izzy 2. Robert ( his title reign) 3. Alex
Cant help but feel that way innit, i see what u mean. It could be that sean just has izzys number stylistically
I watched live and Dricuss won. I'm not even a hardcore fan i just know what winning a fight looks like. Strickland didn't do enough
I know Adesanya said he was 100% and taking Sean seriously when they fought, but in the back of my head part of me wonders if he wasn't getting burnt out from being so ridiculously active for so long. I don't mean to disrespect Sean or DDP here, but I think the fact that Izzy resigned himself to the loss so quickly and used it as an excuse to step away feels like something a burnt out fighter would do. It kind of reminds me of what GSP did after his split decision win over Hendricks.
He was burned out. And he was mentally preparing for Dricus. Sean caught him with a good shot in the first round and he never fully recovered. He just fought not to get finished for the rest of that fight. He will come back later this year and get back his title.
He did not say he was 100%, he said he has said he was injured, but no excuses, people are always injured.
Most rational comment thread here
YOUR NOT WRONG HE IS THE BEST 🔥🥋👊🏾
Problem is Strickland gave the blueprint to beat Izzy, so there’s no guarantee Izzy will get back on top.
well he adapted well with Alex .. he might very well adapt to Sean ... he has the fight IQ for that ...
so DDP is gonna do the philly shell and jab Izzy all night? why are people so stupid
@@r6201skno he didn't he was getting cornered again Poatan was looking for the finish and just got caught.
I would not consider what Strickland did, as a typical blueprint on how to beat Izzy. Izzy is quite adaptable, if that fight happens again. Strickland will not have much success with his jab like he did in the first fight. Izzy will most likely prepare and adapt to the pressure and jabs from Sean. I agree with Dan here. Izzy could still be the best middleweight in the UFC.
You think he's just gonna let that happen again. 😅
Izzy still is the best. I think he's been well below his best for a long time and Strickland exposed that. He didn't have another gear to go to when needed, just too many fights. I think a well rested Izzy coming back will show he's the best in the world.
I agree. However the Sean fight exposed his poor boxing fundamentals and inability to fight on the front foot. There’s ways to prepare and beat him without using wrestling. He should still be fine because most middleweights aren’t good enough to beat him or have the style too. But this could change with time if he doesn’t adapt.
Yes, sir
everything has to be pretty for mr.Dan. he just cannot digest the awkward style of ddp/sean
as much as i love him being dethroned - i think the same about the puppy botherer. he's amazing at MMA and will prob be champ again. all this WWE style bro shit gets in the way of the sport - shouldn't be like that. the best should be able to compete for titles.
In terms of accolades, he is the best right now. In terms of actual fighting, he's 2nd or 3rd.
Who is 1st and 2nd ?
does not make sense how you came to that. You only get those accolades by beating the best consecutively.
@@bakerm9860 DDP and Strickland.
@@mrmolloy His accolades are an accumilation of wins from the past. It's just like saying Whittaker is a better middleweight than DDP based on his accolades.
I had it 2-2 going into the fifth. I don’t believe in take downs being scored so highly if you did not keep your opponent down long enough for it to be critical to the fight and especially if you did zero to no damage. I look at a take down that someone scored but the opponent popped right back up as a significant strike landed equivalent.
Take downs are relevant in MMA. Watch kick-boxing if you don’t like them. Not you specifically but people making that argument.
@@e13kid if take downs are so relevant then shouldn't the guy who worked his way back also get credit for working his way back. Thus nullifying the take down. ??? IMO Strickland won all the grappling exchanges considering DDP couldn't hold him down or do any damage.
The takedowns came into consideration is the fact the strikes and damage was so close
@@Ios13056 they weren't tho
@@robbiesantos7677 They do get credit for that. It’s obviously different from being held down for the whole round. But you get a little bit more credit for getting the takedown in the first place. There’s a difference between a successful takedown and an unsuccessful takedown right?
If you want to play that game, then Whittaker is still the best middleweight and has been for many years now. Izzy robbed him in the rematch and did worse against every opponent they both faced.
Rob didn’t get robbed lol.. he lost a close fight
He's not though lol.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 the cope is unreal
Rob did not win that fight he did nothing with his takedowns and was throughly outstruck you’re overdosing on copium
@@unclejunior2668 When there’s a clear winner and the judges get it wrong, it’s a robbery.
dont know why sean ignored his corner smh
Strickland made him seem to be the worst..
Not really though. He won one round and didn't get finished.
Dricus double legs Izzy, game over.
Pretty much😂😂
I feel like Marvin Vettori has mcuh better MMA wrestling accolades than DDP.
Lol. Casual
cause nobody tried before.
Robert is the most whole fighter at middleweight. Izzy is the biggest tosser in the division, ddp is coming in hot with a threatening close second. Sean strickland is just a straight up cowboy
F*ck no he ain't. 😂
Who is ?
@@bakerm9860 Right now, it's Sean Strickland who could have easily gotten the decision.
@@jackthegreek6092😂
@@jackthegreek6092 Strickland lost to DDP and got easily knocked out by Poatan. Not to mention his loss to Cannonier.
@horkborkm5818 Ah yes, beacuse it's not like DDP wouldn't have gotten Ko'd by Pereira. Or the Cannonier fight being a robbery also.
Dricus by Round 3 TKO/submission
I have to disagree with this.
I think, Marty is the best 185 fighter now!
Strickland is a better boxer and defensive wrestler than Adesanya who won't be able to counter DDPs style in that way. Either way that fight needs to be on UFC 300.
I prefer watching technical fighters with diversity in their skillset. I don't get the fascination with sloppy, bar room technique.
Strickland technically outclassed Izzy for 25 minutes straight. Whittaker also technically outstruck Izzy but got robbed.
@Slim-Clips I made a general statement. I did not mention a particular fighter. That said, considering the video topic, I understand why you responded that way.
The mma fan base are mostly unintelligent folks. They just want to see fighters talk trash and bleed inside the octagon.
💯💯💯
FACTS
I really hope Strickland makes some pro-LGBT comments so his toxic fanbase can disappear and we can go back to making fun of him for being a boring point fighter.
Adesanya is definitely not the best middleweight in the UFC he literally just got beat on the feet by a better more well rounded fighter; he's a great but flawed kickboxer who likes to show off and has quite a limited skillset in MMA, put him against any good wrestler like Bo Nickal or Khamzat and he'll get destroyed, he had very favourable matchups/division when he was champion, with no good grapplers, he arguably lost vetorri 1 and whittaker 2 and most of his fights he's barely winning simply trying to out point his opponents, fighting not to win but to not lose and he's 1-2 in his last three fights when he's got some less favourable matchups ....
Both dricus and strictland both fighters were average.
Izzy the second most consecutive wins in the middleweight division after the spider so you might be right Dan.
Robbed Whittaker. Got finished by Pereira. Got dominated by Strickland.
@@SlimClipper ok? Rob got finished by izzy and ddp, no domination required from how fast he got his ass beat. Trying to hide facts and only announcing the ones that fit what you're trying to spin is so pathetically desperate it's almost cute. Like why cry about something so obviously false just because a well respected analyst who has a much more valued opinion than you said something you don't like. At the end of the day, you know rob has been number 2 to izzy since he put him unconscious for the belt. It's pretty obvious to every mma fan that doesn't live in an online echo chamber where which fighter you like more determines which side you're on that you have to defend.
@@trinidaddy My Good sir you forgot yo tell him that Izzy flatlined Alex 🤣
Yeah, that's fight was so close. I almost feel like the judges might have been biased because of some of his prefight statements, but really, at the end of the day, it was just a super close fight.
Or just the simple fact that they showed South Africa watching. No way they let it go to Sean if it's in any way close.
The judges don't care about what he said. It was just a close fight.
Looks like his a DDP Hater
The ufc must be spreading the money around to get all the shills to cheer for Adesanya. He got the worst beating of any champ in ufc history. He should have to grind his way back to the top!
UFC shills, like Dan Hardy, who infamously has a very bad beef with Dana White and Co.? Likewise, by what criteria are you making the claim that Izzy suffered the worse beating of any UFC champ? These arguments read like someone that's only recently been watching the promotion and is only passively aware of events outside of the past couple of years.
@Godzilla52 Ok Mr.Expert,enlighten me? Tell me another champ that got comprehensively beaten in every round and finished the fight so broken that he quit the sport for a while?
@@Mark-oj8wj If we're just looking at dominant decision based/beatdown losses or one sided 4+ round fights where a champion was completely outclassed) Mark Coleman vs Maurice Smith, Randy Couture vs. Tim Sylvia, Rampage Jackson vs. Forrest Griffin, Renan Barao vs. TJ Dillashaw 1, Cody Garbrandt vs Cruz, Woodley vs. Usman etc. If we change the criteria to just how one sided the fights were or the amount of damage the incumbent received, the list gets even bigger.
Izzy is still the goat 🐐 of MW 💪🏽.
best MW in the division? hes the best MW ever.
If GSP and Silva didnt exist
Izzy fans on the copium 😂😂😂
Such a bad take, I had to unsub.
Awww , I’m sure Dan will miss you bud
WHY!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😂
Byeeeeeeeeee
lmao, bunch of Dan fangirls crying over someone unsubscribing. 😭
You will be missed. Not🎉
Looking good Dan! I wish we can see red haired you once more. :)
Fully agree
No
And you just lost loads of viewers and subscribers😂 Get a grip we used to enjoy you… DDP won, it was close but it was clear
Omg…what a poor take..
Chael is
just popping in for 1 sec to down vote this absurdity 🤣
Best martial artist maybe but in my opinion not the best fighter. I would argue that Sean is a better fighter that Izzy an better then most in the division at ( fighting) there are better martial artists in the modern UFC but not a lot of dyed in the wool fighters
Pass me the number of your dealer
Nah. I think izzy has accomplished a lot in the weight class. Currently, i dont think he's the best. I wouldn't be surprised if DDP ended up beating him at this point. He's almost 35 (death knell for most under 205), and he hasnt looked as good in his recent wins. Whitaker did a great job in the rematch. Ddp knocked him out in the first round. Israel went to a lopsided decision loss to Strickland. Ddp did immensely better and got the win, albeit split. The win over Pereira is nice, but that was a case of "i fought this guy 3 times already, and at some point, i can probably get a win." I reckon that plenty of fighters can get 1 win if they were matched up with them 4 times. He has accomplished quite a lot in the past, but im not sure that his current form is the fighter in the weight class. Im not sure you can confidently say that after his 2 losses in the past couple of years.
No, Hes not.
lol.......
nah
He simply isn't. Cry in a corner.
I thought Strickland won the fight, 1,2 & 5. however, when the fight ended I said it can go either way. It was one of the closest fights I’ve ever seen. Can see why & how DDP won bc of the damage, the pace & the variety. I think Dan’s saying if Izzy fought Strickland again he’ll beat him. Strickland is a great fighter but I think Izzy beats him 7/10 times, maybe more. DDP is still a test for Izzy & we’ll see how he does but I would still say Izzy is the favourite bc of how motivated he will be to beat him bc of the beef & to prove himself again with all this doubt from people . It’s the fight he needs to have. Also khamzat is a going to be a problem eventually I believe. He would be far off the title IMO. Especially if Izzy is the champ. He’s a big name that would be a marketable champ.
Tell them pls!!!!! Aside from Silver, who else has a better run? Alex didn't defend the bet, Rob didn't defend the belt, and yes... say what you will, Sean didn't defend!
Makes no sense
I agree, Izzy vs DDP at 300 for the real champ
Definitely. I think izzy dominates DDP. Sean is a joke tbh. His championship run was a fluke and very short lived
Nah. DDP subs Izzy in the 2nd.
@@johnfreeman2303 lmao that’s laughable.
@@johnfreeman2303izzy will pick him apart stop it
imo Izzy batters Sean in a rematch. not sure about DDP matchup but i think he should win
No he doesn’t he loses again
How can you think that? Sean is Izzy’s style nightmare coz he backs up the whole time
How does your brain get to that conclusion after him being on the end of the most humiliating,5 round beating of a champ ever??
@@Mark-oj8wjhe's a color that rhymes with whack.
@@Mark-oj8wj Because Strickland fights the exact same way every fight. Adesanya will definitely do better if they rematch.
100% Izzy is still the best
In your dreams.
He just got dominated for 5 rounds and KOD 3fights ago
@@JS-xx9ptno offense but your no fighter or have fought in ufc im taking dans advice 😂😂 izzy is the best