It's a hoot and a holler when Matt blows $20 (AUD) on a cheap adapter from eBay. But the real question is, is it any good?
Link to buy: www.ebay.com.au/itm/HDTV-CCTV...
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DualTrax - Shitune #1
CORE - mr spock's cryo-bed
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Now go from RF to composite, and then composite to VGA, and finally VGA to HDMI
Then hdmi to composite and composite back to rf again.
@@chadmasta5 *Adapter suddenly, without reason, seases to function forever... and you can never figure out why*
literally adding bass and treble to a 64kbps audio, genius
Lag overload.
I actually used to play retro games on my crt by going from HDMI to composite, and then composite to RF.
I've got this device for my son's C64 and it's been working fine without a problem for 3 years. We're using Y/C from C64 and it looks pretty good on a 1024x768 LCD.
You have a C64? Nice
You have a son? Nice
i had a stroke and read C4
@@DorAntCrNAH BUT SAME
What’s a C64?
The quality on that this is ridiculous. It's so ridiculous I might swear. Hecc
hey don't let my mom see that word, she'll ban me from minecraft :(
@@MattKC h e c c
F R I C C
@@shagheadguy4805 that's too far mister, you're gonna pay for that
@@shagheadguy4805 ur gonna lose your dog for that sir
those people destroying crt’s hurt me physically >:(
exactly. they can still be used, people are just too lazy to get it working with modern stuff
shagheadguy what if they don’t work
@@adenarrington7607 if it didn't work as in nothing could work with it, then yeah.
shagheadguy well I meant if the crt display is broken then I wouldn’t want to fix it because it’s deadly
I still have my original 13" television that I got when I bought my first computer (an Atari 800xl). It STILL WORKS. And it's the best device to play retro games on... I am glad I resisted the temptation to toss it when I got larger CRTs and LCDs. :) The vertical is about to go out, but it was used when I bought it in 1983. And with some exceptions in the early aughts, it has seen near constant use as a monitor for my C64/Atari/and retro consoles. :)
I'm getting one of these so I can watch VHS on my CRT monitor. 😂
Stuff on CRT Monitors looks much better than on TVs
@@ManOfAttitudeLP1998 you sure about that?
@@NonsensicalSpudz Yes except from VHS Movies maybe but monitor is always higher quality
@@NonsensicalSpudz a CRT monitor can run at 1280x1024+ while regular crt TVs run at 720x480(NTSC), sony did make HD CRT TVs but they're really rare
@@tristan6509 HD CRT TVs are also sold in Japan.
I actually bought one of these as a solution to using an Apple II with a missing screen. This little thing feels cheap, is cheap, and has a lot of nuances, but in that application it worked really well.
7:57 i thought for a second that the monitor had a chunk taken out lmao
true
I actually have a Dell UltraSharp 2007FP that has DVI, VGA, S-Video, and even composite. I also have a soundbar for it so I guess I could get sound on it if I bought an adapter. It's pretty cool though, and I should hook up some old consoles to it sometime.
WHA-
@@rxgtv I gave it to my Dad since, it's a very nice monitor though and he likes it a lot.
I also have a couple of dell monitors with those inputs. Not sure if it's the exact same model though
mine is 1200p from 2009 with PiP/PbP
That's like a nicer version of my dell ps190 lol
Matt, you goober! Why didn't you get composite to HDMI? VGA is as dead as composite is, so what the hell are you doing? With your life? And when are you moving out and getting a real job? Kind regards, Dad
Ahahahaha
Lol. Hdmi is overkill for retro systems. VGA looks great and, in my opinion, is the best video format for these older consoles. Not only this, but changing an analog signal to a digital one, will cause lag and isn't viable. All you're doing here is taking one analog signal and turning it into a better analog signal, since VGA is analog. And this looks better than hdmi.
@@dauntless78 it's a joke from the video
He has got a real job!
@@dauntless78 Ok, I'll just buy 2 VGA adapters for my TV and NES Classic.
I ordered an adapter like this for my Sega Dreamcast when it first came out, except it connected via the proprietary Dreamcast connector and then connected to VGA - like circa 2000 or something; there was no lag then either.
The Dreamcast supported VGA natively, which provided a higher quality than composite converted to VGA, like matt is doing here with his NES. You probably used the Dreamcast's direct VGA output unless you used some weird cheap third-party adapter
I had a silver Hauppauge branded composite to vga adapter back in the day (around 2003) that looked exactly like this one. Unfortunately it worked way worse back then as it had major lag and artifacting. Didnt use it but for a couple of times. I might still have it laying around actually.
Dude, your voice+video editing ability and over all tone in how you come across is very enjoyable. You give me a sense of nostalgia as you explore all the technologies from my child hood. Especially your understanding of the technology and appreciation of it. Thank you! :)
just some quick notes: the NES and N64 output in 240p. You do NOT want deinterlacing here. They're already progressive scan, and deinterlacing will ruin their image, so it's good that it seems to not be deinterlacing. I'm glad that it outputs an image that isn't smoothing out the vertical pixels, because that would look god awful in any situation except maybe PS2 era games in 480i. Also, I hope the 75hz output and resolution is optional, otherwise it will cause strange scrolling patterns and jittering. I'd love to see S-Video performance eventually. S-Video is a MASSIVE upgrade over composite for basically the same exact price Thanks for the review!
He did use S-Video for the N64 and PS2. He mentions it at 8:12
"Not" isn't an acronym
Looking into things, aparently they make some that go in the other direction. And since the GBS8200 (a cheap upscaler that also works as a downscaler to 240p) only outputs VGA, I think it might be my best option. They make cheap kind of direct converter solutions, but I think the lack of using power to do it *may* cause a lot of quality loss, so im going with this.
yeah plus the hack makes GBS great. Wonder if there's a way to hack the Composite to VGA adapter to somehow get 240p
Been waiting awhile for someone to review one of these! Thanks for filling the gap (in a comedic way!)
That was really helpfull! I'm using an old atari st as a MIDI sequencer. My c64 has a composite output and the atari st is connected to a VGA monitor. Thx to your review, i don't need a seperate monitor and i just can use the PIP mode to display both! I had this device in my ebay list for months now and i just bought it.
Absolutely love your channel and your humor! You really could have 1 Mio subs and more!
I recently came to know about this channel. And I totally love your videos and your humour. Keep up!
That picture in picture is a surprise. Imagine playing an old game down in the corner with the KZhead walk through on your browser.
Many thanks for your review. I just ordered one to connect my TRS-80 Colour Computer 3 to my old Gateway VGA monitor.
Exactly what I need for my Atari STe, glad (and surprised) to see these are a good bang for your bucks ! ...also your music list in this episode is top notch ! Been a while I heard some good old Dualtrax !
2:40 LMAOOO WTF.... 😂😂😂
That came out of nowhere, maybe he was recording at 4:30am??
HAHAHAHAHA
I remember buying one of these as a kid for my Wii. Works super well especially for the price
Damn that package review was great. 11/10 would want to see more package reviews on this channel.
Dope apparatus I've seen a lot of times on eBay/Amazon markets, but that I've never bought so far. This is even better that I thought, even if the quality is a bit average.
I got the exact same looking box for $20 on ebay in around 2012. Since then I've gotten composite to HDMI boxes that cost twice as much and died inside of a month. This one just keeps chugging away. It's not perfect though. They've coated it in that grippy rubbery finish that feels premium but in about 5 years it turns to sticky gunk that's near impossible to get off. And the buttons get some sort of oxidation inside them and get cranky and super irritating to use, but that's easy enough to fix with a squirt of DeoxIt or contact cleaner. The quality at least on mine is great. The deinterlacing actually works really well on things like PS2 480i though some lines of the N64's 240p confuse it and it creates a strange effect. According to the box it also features a "3D denoising filter", and I have to say that really works too. It cleans up composite enough that the first time I used it, I had to double check that it wasn't on S-Video. Switching back and forth there's a definite difference but I've seen S-Video rendered worse than this thing's composite. The upscaling is dodgy though so it's best to leave it at 640x480 and let the monitor scale it. For CRTs I find it very useful that it has an 85 Hz output. This makes motion judder a little but gets rid of the dreadful headache-inducing 60 Hz flicker, which is one thing I really don't miss about that era.
I also have two of these and they are just perfect for playing old consoles on my VGA monitors. I love it.
dear lord, i am glad i found this. i dont have alot of fancy new monitors and have more than one CRT still in use, been wanting to hook up some of my old consoles to my pc monitor for a potentially sharper image. definitely pulling the trigger on one of these soon.
I've had one of these things for years, but it goes in the opposite direction. You put VGA in and get composite/S-Video out. It uses the same case, except in blue, and also runs off of USB power. It has a different, more primitive user interface as well. On mine, the side with the single VGA port is the input, while the side with the three other connectors is the output. Mine also has dipswitches in the location that yours has the QA sticker. I originally bought mine from a retail store (Radioshack probably?) almost a decade ago
Waiting for more great content! You deserve way more subscribers, and you'll get there soon enough if you keep up with this
Matt idk how but you made a ebay video converter review entertaining
This brings back memories... I had one that looked the same and converted VGA to Composite/S-Video so I could use my Core 2 Duo - PC on a spare "flat"screen I got from my older brother (No cash for a monitor). good times (And by good I mean nostalgic and not the TVs input lag - because THAT was horrible :D)
I have this very same unit... been going for a couple of years without any problems... I got it for about 9 or 10 euros... I too was surprised at how well it worked actually...
I've actually had one of these for a long time now and had NO IDEA about the PIP mode, I need to go try that out now
I have a very similar looking box for VGA to composite and it does indeed work off of USB even though it did not come with the necessary cable.
Wait so you’re telling me that I could play on my PS4 while I playing on my GameCube? TAKE MY MONEY!
If you got one and happen to have Smash on GameCube, care to tell how does lag/quality look like?
I used to have that same device, just that it was the other way around. VGA to S-Video/RCA. Both VGA ports where they exactly the same, so I guess internally it's the same device, and the only difference is to what pins the RCA and S-Video connectors hook up to internally. Funny enough the PiP button still existed on mine, but it didn't don anything as far as I could tell...
That case seems to be around for a long time, i have a device bought in the early nineties that does the exact opposite in the same case, just it being white instead of black.
2:38 😆 “oooh rubberized plastic I love this stuff…it feels good on my body” lol dude you’re freaking hilarious man
I have always bought these, but I never thought of going from composite output to a VGA input monitor. Before hdmi was standard on both TV's and video cards, I passed through the vga signal to my vga monitor and used the composite clone to go to my non hdmi fat tv, so I could watch tv and videos on my tv from my computer.
There were a few Dell monitors that had composite/S Video/component or all three. I have always wanted to get one and although they can still be found, they can be a tad expensive. However, the convenience factor is certainly there to get one.
I have an extremely similar adapter, the design is exactly the same, with all the buttons and stuff, but the VGA out is actually in a good place and it doesn't glow. There must be multiple versions of this thing since I got mine on Amazon
When you do PIP, is there a way to make the s-video (smaller) pic any bigger and/or move it anywhere you want on the screen? Got the galaxy brain idea of making “borders” for some of my older games which would basically be the game itself playing in the middle of the screen with my pc displaying an image that it sits on top of... Niche of the niche uses, here lol
Yo Matt, this is a comment on the eBay Composite to VGA review video, and I found where the product came from (or maybe someone who ripped off eBay). The one I learned my dad had is from Fosmon, and the name/logo goes where it says "composite to VGA" on yours.
You got an excellent one. I have a similar one, but it doesn't has that fancy menu, you have to cycle each option with a button, really a bummer. Will try to buy the one you got and check differences, maybe it's only the Firmware.
I bought one of these branded "Ligawo" about ten years ago to connect my original XBOX to my monitor. Also played Super Mario Bros with the NES emulator for my modded PS1! Those were fun times
I got one of those a while back but I've had problems with some colors looking too bright and blending together as solid white. It is otherwise a great converter.
Lego Island! Best Windows game ever! It's my childhood 😍 on my parents Tiny PC with a nice 17" CRT, does the input lag improve at all when you use the CRT monitor?
I got one of these to use with a GBS-8200, didn't work because of the upscaling. It's ok, but not as good as a real upscaler. Works great for other things.
This converter is ok, but it doesn't properly handle 240p signals properly. It's definitely impressive for the price though. The best solution that I've found for this (and I've tried a BUNCH) is the RetroTINK2X with a cheap HDMI 2 VGA adapter plugged into it. less than 1ms lag added and a WAAY cleaner picture, even rivaling that of a framemister or ossc! It is about $100 USD though so it's not exactly cheap.
That pip thing is actually amazing
Picked one of these up at a car boot sale - literally the same thing with the QC sticker and rubberised plastic and all.. 1 pound, boxed :D
Wow I bought this like 6 years ago. Except mine is silver. It always worked but I actually used it to display a pc on an old TV. I laughed when you said "Theoretically you actually could run this off USB" Because what I got for a power supply was a chord with USB on one end, and a barrel connector on the other, and that was it, lmao.
Fun fact: VGA stands for "Video Game Ass" Also nice Olive cameo @ 6:04
;)
Its Video Game Asshole
Video Graphics Array. DUMB!
"Video Graphics Adapter"
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp r/woosh
Just watched a bunch of your videos. Found you with the Lego island music one and thought oh shit is that Matt from school that used to get all the flash and pj64 games for everyone? Awesome to see your running a popular channel based around this kinda stuff now. Just looking at these adaptors after seeing the new tv I got has no rca for my ps2.
I have one for my Wii to connect it to a CRT I had laying around and it has been nothing but perfect.
I have one of these adpaters but mine does VGA to composite you can connect your PC to an old TV :)
There is a vga to composite? Can you post a link to one so I can see the model?
@@Durante_di_Alighiero Search on ebay for "VGA to RCA Switch Box, PC to TV AV Monitor Composite S Video Converter Adapter"
@@rfsapiens Thanks allot!
same
Saw the thumbnail and was like hey! I have that too! I bought mine from aliexpress though. That thing is honestly amazing. Indeed the picture-in-picture does exactly what pip does on android. But you can't choose which is the smaller one. If you have a VGA and composite signal going through it will display the composite signal in pip over the VGA signal in the bottom right corner and you can set it to 2 different sizes. Indeed the VGA output is next to the other inputs which is weird but eh. The menu is really nice to have as, at least in my experience, consoles just look very dark, so i always have to up the brightness, but only when playing a game on a console because on the VGA signal it doesn't give any issues. Maybe that's because mine runs off of a 1A phone charger. I should have the exact same as you have even though mine came from aliexpress, but it has everything exactly the same, even the blue light through the sticker. But mine came with a USB cable to power it and it runs just as well off a USB port from my laptop as it does on the phone charger. It also doesn't seem to care about what console you use. I use mine with an N64, a gamecube and a PS2 and it all runs the same. Also no noticeable input lag added to it so that's cool too. And it supports some pretty decent resolutions at 60 and 75hz if you want. Only thing is audio. It does not support audio so you'd have to find a way to route the audio somewhere. Seeing that you use 1 cable to the rca input i don't know how you'd do that, where i live there's always 3. The red, white and yellow, where yellow is the video signal and red and white are right and left audio respectively. You can just route those 2 cables to any rca input on any audio device that has those as inputs so there's no problem there really. I have mine routed through an audio interface. Overall it's a really cool thing and works very well actually :3 But i'm still wondering why yours came with a 2A adapter whereas mine just came with a USB to whatever that round plug is cable.
the reason why the vga in and out are inverted is cuz there are models of this particular converter that has vga in to composite / s-video out. so you can hook up a vga computer to a composite / s-video vcr/tv
i have a ton of generic adapters, hdmi splitters, usb switchers, and many more gadgets like this that were incredibly cheap and work unbelievably well. i wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing cheap hdmi 2.1 splitters in the near future
Hey Matt, you need to upload more videos, like every week or so. Ur videos are very well documented and understandable, I love the tech videos a lot, it's so relaxing and interesting watches you solve problems. You got so much potential, you are probably an IT Student or smth like this, keep up and upload more videos, I will watch them all👀
Hey, "VGA IN" is a pass-trough connector that allows a VGA source (for example a computer) use the connected monitor without disconnect the adapter. You can switch between "S video", "composite" and "VGA pass-trough" by one of those buttons. However, the adapter still needs to be powered to use VGA pass-trough... 😉 Looks like I have a little different version of this adapter. First, mine has no LEDs, second, mine has BNC connector instead of RCA, and third, mine has these buttons: - "AV/SV/VGA" - "ZOOM" - "PIC" - "MENU" - "RES" - "PIP" Of corse, it can't do "picture in picture" and some buttons do something different than what's labeled on the adapter. So, I say, you have a better version, dude.
I actualy have a vga 5:4 montior I use as my 2nd monitor in my main computer all the time. Right now Ive been using a composite to hdmi and I have to deal with the image being stretched. This is really cool and I might actualy try it (as long as I get a rca spliter so I can still send it to my capture card
i use one of these av to vga adaptors in my studio, where i have a dell monitor flat screen from 2008 windows xp. that way for $5 + free shipping, i can watch tv and play gamecube when im not recording guitar tracks on the pc. mine has a red led but is identical.
I prefer to work with those old 5:4 square monitors for my pc setup and something like this might be useful to include a small old game console into my workspace. I've seen them before but It never occurred me to use the device as a passthrough for the VGA signal.
I have a very similar unit to this, and it can run off USB. It even shares the sane shell and PIP functionality.
@MattKC Did you, by chance, test light gun operation with the video fed through that adapter? NES Duck Hunt etc.
On the CRT of course, not the LCD
@@phorce1 I would also like to know if that would work
i have that one but vga to composite and i use it for a ddr cabinet. in my experience it works well. i looks just like yours. also got off of ebay
3:20 I kid you not, right when you got to the word “noise“ I experienced buffering but didn’t realize it, and watching the captions, I wondered if it was a pun.
I have one of those china boxes, albeit quite a bit worse one in a grey case. It is a clone of something, it's printed on the PCB and the ICs are actually scratched off interestingly enough. I really want an OSSC but it's out of stock on VGP (ali and ebay are out of consideration due to import taxes). An HDMI DAC does a job well enough IMO.
I think there is an exact model of this adapter but opposite, that can take VGA and output it to S-video and RCA. EIther that or this device has a way to detect which way the data is going and choose.
Can I use this device to get a security camera to display live video directly on a monitor without using a computer?
Your humor is great!
@MattKC I know this is a 4 year old video, but there's something you need to revisit on this adapter. I have a much older but strikingly similar Composite - VGA adapter, and there is a simple built-in ***game*** hidden deep in the menu options. If yours is a copy of a copy of the one I have, I wonder if this Easter egg is still there?
Wish I could sub to you twice bro! You’re great at what you do.
yeah but now you either need a pair of speakers for sound or an rca to audio jack adaptor if your screen has an audio input port
Hi Matt, big fan here of random tech stuff. I wanted to warn you about pixelating addresses especially in a moving video as it is trivial to reverse engineer it. I suggest cutting out the label or editing a completely opaque black box on it. I know this reaction is a bit late but I hadn't seen this video yet :)
The thing is probably just a single chip.
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Burnout 3 as a test case ... you are my man! 😎😀
I have one of these, only in silver instead of black. I think bought it for a lot cheaper. But it was years ago. Recently I wanted to use it to connect an android TV box to an old CRT TV. Then I realized that the chinese android TV box already has a composite output. It's weird to have android on a 30 years old tv.
Congrats! the video looks awesome. VGA only carries video. No audio.
You should try it with the crt vga monitor and did it work?
3:25 Me, watching your video on exactly same monitor: It`s old but still good
2:44 I actually have one that looks identical to this and it's branded as StarTech. It's complete crap though, the output is blurry and off center. Might have to try it again though, maybe it was the screen ratio that was messing it up?
Do you know what resolutions it supports. Obviously it accepts 240p & 480i, but what does it output. I'm planning to use this with my O.S.S.C. (Open Source Scan Converter) so I can use composite & s-video with it. I'm hoping there's a pass-through mode to simply send out the same resolution it receives, so it will work with the OSSC. Also do you know if this works with PAL resolutions 288p & 576i. Thanks if you can help.
Funny. I have a similar device, but that only converts one way: VGA -> Composite. Yet it's the exact same plastic mold. Had the thing for over 10 years.
tech, usb 2.0 is more or less 1A, so parallel usb like what they do to hdd enclosures MIGHT (not sure) work...?
I wanted to buy this back in 2004 to play ps2 on a VGA monitor (i had no tv on my room but a VGA monitor on the attic), but was unable to buy from internet, nor to find it IRL But i managed to buy all sorts of things like little TVs and portable DVD players with AV input and jack output to enjoy my nights. I remember having bought a little TV for 20$, then i would hide it in a cardboard box for the days, and then lock my door, getting the TV and play
I been using a grey version for a few years Haha! I go, hdmi to vga to this adapter to s video for my retropie
How are you still below 50k subs? For real, your content is eZ good enough for you to have a few mil subs
I have bought this item from Ebay and what I noticed is that the QC sticker was placed over a dip switch that was removed. I had to find one that had the switch so I could use it.
I bought a composite to HDMI and it was horribly laggy, but I bought another about the same as yours and it works great.
Mind throwing a link to the one you bought?
@@Wieprzek Think it was the cheapest one or close to it, that was in the usa at the time, almost all of them look like they come from the same place. Just make sure it dose what you need it to do.
@@g6qwerty Thanks for answering, i got a big old CRT tv in the meantime tho
I just went down a KZhead hole I never knew existed and I gotta admit. It’s been one of the better holes.
Is there any chance that this thing takes YUV via the VGA port? Does it mention that in the included instructions?
Help! I have an old DVD player with composite video out connections (red/blue/green/yellow colored terminals) and an old monitor with VGA and DVI connectors....will this work so I can watch DVD’s on the monitor? TIA!!!
Maybe there would be even less lag if you set the output refresh rate to 50/60 Hz (instead of 75 Hz), so that it matched the input. Perhaps even 640x480@120 or 768x576@100?
You should test this with an light gun/zapper in nes or something, it will be a real input lag test btw
I have one of those little boxes and it came with a USB power cable, runs happily from it but mine didn't have an LED
Lol your videos either crack me up and or are just interesting. Either way there's crack involved.
Is it a VGA capture card? If it is, I am considering getting one as well as a DOS PC so I can record DOS games that don't work properly on Dosbox (pointing camera at a crt is out of the question for me as it would be a quality killer. The only youtuber I know of who somehow got it good is danoct1 and even his recording aren't perfect if compared to capturing direct video signal from the machine - and I'm all about perfection).
wow a year late, buuut no it's not a capture card afaik can you use it as a vga to video, tbph i doubt it and you have to be carefull where you get one as mine came set to ntsc instead of pal which means the picture is awfull