Why Is FINLAND So Well Prepared for Another Conflict?
For several centuries Russian history has been marked by expansionist and aggressive waves and others more cooperative with the West, and in recent years it seems that Russia is again entering a period of expansionism. Finland, a neighboring country of Russia, knows this firsthand because it has already fought several wars for its borders. And the fact that Sweden, a historically neutral country, which refused militaristic alliances for many years and suddenly applied for NATO membership, means that Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine changed geopolitics completely and from suddenly neutrality started to look much more like vulnerability. Finland was part of the Russian empire until 1917, when it became independent. However, Russia has always kept an eye on Finnish internal politics and has almost always tried to influence its destiny.
Videos used:
- The Finnish Defence Forces. NORTHERN GRIFFIN 24
• NORTHERN GRIFFIN 24
Some sources of interest:
- Foreign Policy (2024). Scandinavia Is Preparing for War
foreignpolicy.com/2024/02/09/...
- The New York Times (2023). When Russia Is a Neighbor, Self-Defense Is Everyone's Concern
www.nytimes.com/2023/10/04/wo...
- War on the Rocks (2022). WHAT WOULD FINLAND BRING TO THE TABLE FOR NATO?
warontherocks.com/2022/05/wha...
Music:
Whatdafunk by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. creativecommons.org/licenses/...
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The supposed Finnish attack on the village of Mainila on the soviet side of the border was not "most likely" a soviet false flag operation. It was an actual soviet false flag operation. The russians themselves admitted it officially after the breakup of the USSR.
When Finnish "attacked" Mainila, they didn't hit anything, even they had all the time in the world, but when the war started their artillery was lethal.
@@playnochat I guess Mainila was our 🇫🇮 first ever training shot, that somehow missed the target about 180° (sorry!). But we did have a steep actualized learning curve, didn't we? 😅
@@playnochat Finnish artillery didn't gain its famed lethality until the Continuation War. Anyone who fought in the Winter War could attest to that. Finnish artillery units were underequipped, ammunition was in short supply and the Finnish army had to make do with obsolete artillery pieces.
They have since withdrawn their admission.
@@Argantonis As if that changes anything
They wouldn't be alone if Russia tried it again. They are stronger than they ever were and have more allies than they ever did
Also to note that we were one of the very few if not the only country to gain independence last Russia tried to invade us. Now hopefully, if NATO countries really pull together and especially major european countries (since they are the closest players), then yes we will have more support if Putin tries anything. However especially we finns know that Russia understands ONLY strength and raw power. There is even supposedly quote from Lenin: "If there is softness, push. If there is hardness, pull away". In oher words, russians will ruthlessly take advantage if there is ANY cracks in the united front. So a lot of us finns are hopeful, but skeptical, relying more on actions than talk :)
Finland like Sweden is fearful of Civil war with migrants joining NATO guves them the opportunity to call for help. Sweden admits its police are overwhelmed and rely on the military to keep order. Look up OPERATION SORTIE where Swedes plan to flee North. Russia is a scapegoat they can blame without saying Migrants or Muslims and we are on the verge of civil war. Like all GOYIM their people fall for whatever lie they're told.
VOGEL is that spelled I D I O T
Finland its Military is litteraly the GIRL SCOUTS of Europe everything UNISEX where they share barracks swim nude together. The best part of the documentary was when the Female officer asked 2 phuck bunnies about sex they just looked at each other 😂 U can almost see the Snail Trail as they run for morning PT
Finland like Sweden is fearful of Civil war with migrants joining NATO guves them the opportunity to call for help. Sweden admits its police are overwhelmed and rely on the military to keep order. Look up OPERATION SORTIE where Swedes plan to flee North. Russia is a scapegoat they can blame without saying Migrants or Muslims and we are on the verge of civil war. Like all GOYIM their people fall for whatever lie they're told.
“Why Is FINLAND So Well Prepared for Another Conflict?” Cause they are NOT FFFKING STUPID!!
Finland like Sweden is fearful of Civil war with migrants joining NATO guves them the opportunity to call for help. Sweden admits its police are overwhelmed and rely on the military to keep order. Look up OPERATION SORTIE where Swedes plan to flee North. Russia is a scapegoat they can blame without saying Migrants or Muslims and we are on the verge of civil war. Like all GOYIM their people fall for whatever lie they're told.
Yes because you can not trust to a country which has 3 different words for lie and 2 different words for truth (aka Russia) and especially when these words have difference of depth in them
@@samppakoivula9977 lmaooo
Not stupid like Estonian goverment
after Finland closed its borders with Russia, it began to lose money due to the lack of Russian tourists
0:35 Correction, Finland has been much longer part of Sweden, part of Russia much shorter time but nobody speaks Russia, the main points.
Yeah, Finland was an essential part of the Swedish Kingdom over 600 years from the Crusaders to the Napoleonic Wars. That's why there are lots of cultural similarities between Finland and Sweden like legislation and Lutheran Church. The Swedish and Finnish alphabet consists of 29 letters, A to Z plus Å, Ä, and Ö. Besides Finnish and Swedish peasants owned their farms, and they were one of the four estates with nobility, clergy and burghers. The Riksdag of the Estates was the diet of the four estates of Sweden, from the 15th century until 1866. The Diet of Finland was the successor to the Riksdag of the Estates in the Grand Duchy of Finland, from 1809 to 1906.
We have been ready for almost 80 years 🇫🇮
Simple answer: nearly thousand years of experience.
Excatly.
And 2 lost wars:(
@@-KetTune- Lost how? Across all the European countries fighting in WWII, only three national capitals were never occupied: Moscow, London and Helsinki.
@@CycnusInfernus exactly. Russians are basically mongols. Mongols never left russia, they merely blended into ruling elite, and their way has been used ever since.
@@Tihuke we lost land. That is a net loss.
Finland doesn't leave their defence in the hands of others, not even NATO. There's no denying that NATO is a huge extra layer of deterrance though.
As a Finn, I personally believe that the NATO countries budget 2% minimum spending on defense forces should be a rule to join or stay, not a recommendation.
I believe that's the active mentality here in Finland. I personally like that we're part of NATO and benefitting from it's deterrence but I don't like too much about foreign military bases in Finland particularly because of the fact that those countries may view it as us being in debt to them although we already have a capable defence force of our own and we really don't need those foreign military bases.
The cause of the Winter War (1939-1940) lays on Nazi Germany's and Soviet Union's Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. In that pact those two countries became kinda allies for a while and they agreed how to divide Europe.amongst them. Germany promised Baltic countries, half of Poland and Finland to Russia. If Finland would have agreed to Stalin's demans to give territory and also get some of it it would have led Finland to the same path that Baltics went (gave areas for military bases and then lose your independence). That really was Russians endgame. Not to give in to the demands and defend the country against Russia's invading army was the only reasonable and responsible choise.
USSR and the Nazi Germany even developed tanks together on Soviet soil before WW2 (Rapallo agreement). USSR also together with Nazi Germany invaded Poland on September 17, 1939 and held a joint victory parade on September 22.
@@londop.a.3048 I didnt know that, thanks for sharing that information about Rapallo agreement. 🇸🇪👍
Western Belorussia not Poland
Btw. it would make more sense to call it Stalin-Hitler pact, not Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.
@@Petonimies Not really, it was the German foreignminister Joachim von Ribbentropp and the foreignminister of Sovietunion, Vjatjeslav Molotov who agreed on that pact.
Hakkaa päälle pohjan poika!!
The question should be .... can Russia survive invading Finland!
There is a humorous proverb about one finn being equal to 10 russians and it is further continued by "But what happens when the 11th russian comes?" This joke is most well from the film adaptation of the novel "Unknown soldier" written by Väinö LInna
Why would Russia invade Finland? I can not think of a single reason. Russia has 100 times more frozen arctic forests and enough swamps where nobody lives.
@@harleyquinn8202 russia never havent needed big reasons over the centuries to attack against its smaller neighbors.
@@siralexis6590 Centuries ago there was a big population growth, not anymore.
@@harleyquinn8202 That answer clearly shows that you know very little about finnish OR american history. Which means you clearly (and hopefully) aren't a finn, because if you were you wouldn't even ask such a question But to answer that question: Because Putin wants to expand Russia's borders as they were before the beginning of WW1 and those borders include Finland. Futhermore, because Finland is gateway to Sweden and Norway, which at least Norway has much of natural resources to plunder (oil at least IIRC).Of course even we in Finland have some valuable natural resources somewhere in north, again IIRC. Futhermore, russians have poem called "brass rider" which is taught in russian schools and which taughts to hate finns an even more swedes Also to note: Russia from Finland to Moscow is mostly steppes, which results that basic propaganda in Russia is saying that as more countries join NATO that NATO prepares to invade Moscow and since the road to Moscow is mostly steppes it makes that much easier that propaganda to go through. So basically the narrative is vice versa in Russia. Furthermore, what is most concerning, recently Putin has coined a proverb: "Russia's borders do not end anywhere" So if nothing else, that very proverb should be most concerning...
Finland has been in bloody wars since 4th century, fighting for its survival because of its strategic location. One of the most legendary battle was in 1008 (Battle at Herdaler), the Finns fought against the Viking king Olaf II Haraldsson. It became a legendary event in the Viking sagas. This is from the saga: "The Finlanders conjured up in the night, by their witchcraft, a dreadful storm and bad weather on the sea; but the king ordered the anchors to be weighed and sail hoisted, and beat off all night to the outside of the land. The king's luck prevailed more than the Finlanders' witchcraft; for he had the luck to beat round the Balagard's side in the night. The third fight was at Herdaler, where The men of Finland met in war The hero of the royal race, With ringing sword-blades face to face." -The Saga of Olaf Haraldson (the vikings lost the battle and king Haraldson barely survived)
You forgot to mention that Finland has the largest artillery by number of units in western Europe.
Hys hys
Didn't have back then.
Finland is in eastern europe
@@PoppopPoppipappaa-vo7in Generally it is labelled northern Europe instead, but it is the easternmost of the Nordic countries. The easternmost part of northern mainland Norway extends quite far to the east however, almost past Finland.
@@PoppopPoppipappaa-vo7in Finland 🇫🇮is a Nordic and western country with Sweden 🇸🇪 Norway 🇸🇯 Denmark 🇩🇰 and Iceland 🇮🇸. They are all prosperous countries with a high standard of living. Finland was ranked the best country by World economic Forum conference in Switzerland Davos 2019 and the happiest country seven times in a row. All the other Nordic countries are among the ten best and happiest countries. Eastern European countries have never achieved that position.
The amount of historical inaccuracies in this video was crazy. But yes, Finland is well prepared 🇫🇮
No word about the Nazi germany at finnish soil. But yes, Finland is well prepared.
We fought Russians some 700 yrs under Swedish crown. Swedish empire lost at Pultava 1709 to Russians. Which ultimately lead to war of Finland 1808-1809 where Swedes lost Finland to Russian empire. Swedish crown collected men at arms from Finland, and light cavalry , Hakkapeliitat. Finns fought for Swedes across europe thru 30 year old war, Napeleonic wars, you name it. Even Brittish navy have bombarded Finland.
Poltava. Or is Pultava alternative way to write it?
@@Kone5497Poltava is the English spelling of the same place
@@Kone5497 jep , Poltava, Pultava,few ways to write it I guess
The reason for the Russian invasion of the eastern part of Sweden, which is Finland is because of Napoleon’s Continental Blockade of the UK which the Swedish king had opposed, and Napoleon gave Russia free hands on Finland to punish Sweden. Things went in a very similar way with the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact in WW 2 and the result was the Russian attack on Finland known as the winter war.
Can Russia survive another invasion to Finland? Perkele.
Sweden never really had to care because they knew Finland never forgot the winter war. They've been Sweden's buffer zone for 80 years. It's why Sweden put minimal effort into its land-based defense and signed a defense pact with Finland instead. Finland had the land forces and Sweden had the naval forces.
Sweden never had defense pact with Finland that would have had something similar to NATO article 5.
No, you got it all wrong!
80 years..?! U know that we been one team over 700 years right?
You do know that the world’s thinnest book is called the ”Swedish war heroes” right? That’s because the Finns have fought their wars for centuries 😂😅
@@gdpartic I have nothing against Finland, a proud and strong nation, but to say Sweden lack war heroes just show your lack of history, I culd go so far and say the oposite if you would compare Findland would not even come close.
I can not stop comparing my experience in finnish artillery and what I've seen in russian artillery clips from ukraine. I know terrain is different but the way russian artillery works is like the first training exercise. They have all the cannons on one field close to eachother, muddy ammunition is stored next to cannon and I do not see any collimators nearby so I would believe they just fire into one direction without any coordinate. I guarantee the level of Finland's military and it's training is on a completely different league. The whole finland's system is one machine honed to perfection from top to bottom while in russia it's corrupted, forced, unreliable, a loose combination of wrong parts smashed into a monster that has no clear reason, moral or trust. You might argue that conscripts are not professionals but the point of total conscription is that those "epic professionals" are among the conscripts. Everyone in Finland will have their most suitable personal special role unlike in russia where 90% of the roles are cannon fodder. WW2 rules still stand: Finland has no good targets for long range weapons. Dence forest, swamps, labyrinth of lakes and few roads still work as a death trap. Weather is arctic. Fortifications have been added every month for 80 years.
Tbh, I think if Russia attacked Finland, the Finns would be able to defend themselves without any help. But you will get help, Sseden will be first in line to do so, along with our other Nordic neighbours 🇸🇪🇫🇮🇳🇴🇩🇰🇮🇸
They made some groundbreaking developments for artillery during the 1940's. I remember hearing about a certain Vilho Nenonen, who invented a specific fire control card enabling concentrated fire, and then Unto Petäjä came up with Fire correction circle enabling quick and easy adjustments by fire control, compared to something other armies may have been using. This was in 1943. The information was not shared with Germany and was kept a secret until after the war. I can't find official translations for the words. Feel free to correct me.
How would Finnish artillery stand up against 300,000 kamikaze drones that Russia produces each month?
@@harleyquinn8202 Ehm, how does Ukraine stand up against those 300,000 kamikaze drones??
@@harleyquinn8202 we have seen ur capabilities already😂😂😂 and now u r begging toys from iran and n.korea🤣🤣🤣true superpower🤣🤣🤣
You did not take into account the over 500 years of wars that was going on before 1809 when Finland was a part of Sweden.. Finland was only a part of Russia for about 100 years, and even then a autonomic semi indipentent vasal. So the war against Russia has been going on for 1000 years here.
Finland was directly a part of Sweden for over 600 years.
War started due to Nazi-Soviet agreement about spheres of influence. In the agreement Nazis got half of Poland. Soviets got the other half, baltic states and Finland. This joint Nazi-Soviet plan was put into action in 1939 when Nazis and Soviets jointly invaded Poland. Later soviets invaded Finland. Afterwards Soviets annexed baltic states, this happened despite those countries having agreed soviet demands. So the claim of the video is false. Soviet union and Nazi Germany were de-facto allies, soviets were not afraid of Nazi invasion through Finland. Instead they wanted to regain lands (Poland, Baltics and Finland) that were lost when Tsarist Russia collapsed. Purely imperialistic action. Same wishes are held in Russia today, starting with Ukraine. Propagandists, politicians, writers, generals and ex-presidents have fantasized about regaining these countries since collapse of soviet union, openly.
thieves honor. there is no honor among thieves. so is this spheres of influence agreement any good?
Finland is in NATO now .
280 Thousand is the wartime strength. Not to mention 900 Thousand reservist still to be called.
Finland like Sweden is fearful of Civil war with migrants joining NATO guves them the opportunity to call for help. Sweden admits its police are overwhelmed and rely on the military to keep order. Look up OPERATION SORTIE where Swedes plan to flee North. Russia is a scapegoat they can blame without saying Migrants or Muslims and we are on the verge of civil war. Like all GOYIM their people fall for whatever lie they're told.
Finland its Military is litteraly the GIRL SCOUTS of Europe everything UNISEX where they share barracks swim nude together. The best part of the documentary was when the Female officer asked 2 phuck bunnies about sex they just looked at each other 😂 U can almost see the Snail Trail as they run for morning PT
These are theoretical numbers only though.
@@TrueChellthey are trained to fight!
@@TrueChell Theoretical? I don't know if you hunt elk, but it's the older hunters who stand out. We've had younger ones hand over because they weren't confident of making a challenging shot. Then an old crony comes along and bags the elk as if it was the easiest thing in the world.
1 Finland is now in NATO. 2 Finland is part of Scandinavian air defence cooperation. 3 Nordic brothers, will defend each other. If not for Nazi occupation of Norway, in WWII, Finland would never had to surrender to Soviet Union.
Just to correct though, Finland *never* _surrendered_ to Soviet Union, signing a peace treaty with the Soviets to yield 10% of the land area surely was bitter for the Finns after the Soviet advances were stopped (and Stalin started prioritizing getting to Berlin faster - relocating what was left of the troops&resources intended to pierce the Finnish defense lines in 1944, and settled for getting the karelian isthmus from Finland in peace talks after another failed occupation attempt) but militarily they held the line till the end both in the Winter war and at the end of the Continuation war in the summer of '44, albeit with heavy casualties repelling the soviet push through attempts against crushing odds one after another - Stalin's pyrrhic victory of the textbook kind was to get just enough land to bury their deads in and Finland kept the wolf from the door by never getting occupied unlike the Easter European countries. Also, had Finland actually been occupied, it also would have resulted in a costing guerrilla war theater for the Ivan given how systematically the Finns started stashing up weapons, comms, ammo and ordnance throughout the country in case of a runthrough/occupation attempt right after signing the peace treaty in 1944 knowing in their guts that Russia is never to be trusted and only respects brute force at the end of the day. Si vis pacem, para bellum. Today the Nordic countries in the NATO indeed form a substantial stronghold seeing how the F-35's, information and other systems will be synchronized even further between these countries. Come and take it, vlad.
It's been years when I heard that, but I once asked from our History teacher why didn't USSR just finish the job on Winter War if we Finns were running out of ammo and the reply was "Their tanks would had got stuck in the mud and swamps after the winter frost starts to meld making them easy targets, so tanks had to be withdrawn and without tanks Russian infantry tactics of the time would have been altered even further without training to it". Don't quote me on this, it's just how I've understood the 2 part war we had 'cause I never questioned him and it made sense to me, but I also never really got into reading about it any further as a claim. If that's true, it's hard to think or say what would had happened, other than Russians losing tons of equipment and possibly some just captured.
@@KK-md6ng it is new definition of wining
U forgot to tell the most important reason why finland turned down a request to exhange land: russia wanted to have a naval base near helsinki, and russia wasnt willing to negotiate about it.
By the time they invade Finland, the Orcs will only have the t34 from ww2. Dont forget, they got their butts kick during ww2 by finland eventhough they were outnumbered 10:1 and lacked armor as compared to Russia.
But Finland lost the war - how did you manage to FORGET that part?
@@DavidW-nx2zs , you mean "FORGET"..you're trying to teach me with your 1st grade English 🤪🤪
@@RacerX1971 Thanks for pointing that out - have corrected.
Spelling error aside, is it not correct that Finland lost the war?
@@DavidW-nx2zs , to me if a small country like that who went toe to toe with a huge country like Russia and didn't back down, had less troops, air power and armor, is a win. It's like going up against a bully. Very similar to Ukraine going up against Russia and may have lost some territory but to me they are winning cus the Orcs are bullies but look at what happened...2 years later...and the Orcs thought it was going to take less than a week.
The fact that russia cant take ukraine i highly doubt they could take on the whole nato :D
Thank you for this!
"Very few tanks" in fact finland had 64 outdated tanks without guns or radios, they were mostly used to make fortifications and trenches.. however, we had only ONE battle ready old renault tank 😂
The real question: can Russia survive another invasion and aggression against another neighbour?
Well, if it's against us... No. Regards, Finland. I do not wish it happening though. We actually like Russian people, but Putin is making it impossible!
Fact Checking: is it not the British ruling class that hate Putin for preventing them ripping off the Russia state?
I had only one question where is proof that Fin. people want to join Nato? There is only 2 or 3 press polls, but no Vote. It is all lies that 80 to 90% Finlands people want to join Nato. So get real. Lets vote and see what is the prosent who want join Nato. But no it is not gonna happened cause it ruin the narrative. There was no democratic decisions about joining Nato. No 200 politics can't do that decisions without asking people and it has to ask by voting. No some polls where taking only 1000 to 1300 peoples opinios. It is not a legiment at all.🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Finland's safe now in NATO, Russia wouldn't dare touch them without experiencing total defeat.
Yes, IF the NATO countries pull it together as united front and especially the major european countries. Any strife/discord with them and Putin and his propaganda machine will take advantage of it. But as long Russia is fighting for Ukraine, no problem. However it is vital that Russia does not to get to keep the territories, because it will then try to conquer the whole Ukraine and since Lukashenka is already in Putin's pocket, tries to conquer the rest of the slavic countries back and maybe even go further. Russia is an unpredictable nation and should not be trusted to not trying to push further, if it sniffs ANY weakness, DESPITE of NATO...
In that case, why are dodgy people attempting to push the lie that Russia wants to kill everyone in their beds?
If Trump becomes president nato doesent work so Russia can do whatever
The more relevant question is whether Russia can survive a second attempt to invade Finland
Like the way you think 🙂
The current fertility rate for Finland in 2024 is 1.422 births per woman, well below the basic replacement rate of 2.1. The more relevant question is whether the Finns will still be around in a couple of hundred years, even if Russia doesn't invade.
@@harleyquinn8202 Uh, the Russians are in the same boat fertility-wise. The situation is exacerbated by the diaspora of Russia's best and brightest. Finland actually gets quite a few of them.
@@peabase "the Russians are in the same boat fertility-wise" - That is true for all developed countries, but there are more Russians than Finns. So after the last Finn there would be still quite a lot of Russians left after few centuries 🙂
@@harleyquinn8202 Nah, there will be citizens of newly-independent Karelia, Ingria, Amberland and, last _and_ least, Muscovy. The former three will apply for EU and NATO membership at their earliest convenience, too.
This time, they would have the rest of NATO at their back. Russia wouldn't stand a chance.
finlands defence forces exist only for one enemy.
An old military joke is that if the enemy is coming from the west, it has managed to circle around
Reason to winter war was Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and both Soviets and Germans imperislistic goals.
In 1939 Russian military forces were spread out along the entire Finnish border. Their goal was to conquer all of Finland, regardles of the Germans.
If Russia was to invade the US and other allies would defend that country. That would be a red line for sure. Finland is very capable by itself.
I would like to point out, that Finland was part of Russian empire untill 1917 but it was only a short historic period. Before 1809 Finland was a part of Sweden for over 600 years. And under tsars regime Finland was not a part of Russia. It had its own laws, even own military. That was because tsar wanted to be caesar. And ceasars rules not only their own state but they rule over other states too. Tsar was so vein.
Seems pretty dumb question, everyone knows why we are prepared.
The Finns answered that question by joining NATO.
I LIVE IN FINLAND🇫🇮
Russia is allways Finland proplem no 1
short answer: ever since finland's independence in 1917 finland has been preparing against russia and only russia, the whole existance of our military always has been and will be for russia
0:34 "Finland was part of the Russian empire until 1917..." Yes, but perhaps it should be elaborated, that Finland had become part of the Russian empire in 1809, before that it was part of Sweden - and in the front line against many brutal attacks by Russia.
well russia would face the same problem now as they did in the winterwar, not to many roads between Russia and Finland, still a lot of forest, swamps and lakes, where not even a modern tank would be able to penetrate in any kind of fast pace, combine that with Finland now is in nato, what pretty much meens that russia cant do a land fall eighter, becuse as soon as any of their ships leaves kalingrad or St Petersburg they would be under fire, only way probably could be to try and penetrate in the north and then move down, what again ends up in same situations, where you meet heavily denced forests and lakes, a Russian invasion of Finland, could lead to Russia loosing St petersburg and Kalingrad quite fast, losses would be high on both sides, but due to Russias horribly bad logistics it most likely would not end to well, atleast not fast, as we already seen in Ukraine, where Russia should have been able to use their overwhelming tank brigades to fast move accross the fields.
In 1939 we had only 32 tanks and 114 old aircraft. Only about 10 of the tanks were functional in combat, we were poor as fuck with not enough ammo or weapons with almost no outside help. Nowadays the situation regarding equipment is much better, our military in general is much better in every way. We never dropped the mandatory military service for men when other european countries did, every 1 in 5 people here is trained to fight in a war. We have the largest artillery capability in western europe, enough bunkers to fit 80% of our population, over 100% when people leaving the country or going at war aren't counted. Hmm what else is there, i guess the fact we have some of the highest gun ownership rates in europe and that hunters are very common, because i guess that would help a bit in war. Idk, just wanted to add that to your comment, which you are right about the terrain, it matters alot, prolly why we survived the winter war.
Yes . They are extreamly well prepared.
Just looked backwards, why we have built this almost perfect system, of which is not known anyone but Defence Forces.That is the answer.
Even if Finland would have accepted the offer from soviets, they would have invaded still in the end. It would have continued as more and more demands from soviets.
I'm not a military strategist, but I assume the vast border with Russia protects Finland quite well. You can stab it a bit from any front, but that territory would quickly be reclaimed. I would be more concerned about Estonian and Latvian borders. Access to the Baltic sea and all such..
BIG correction. Finland was not part of Russia **until** 1917, Finland was part of Russia **between** 1809-1917. Before the Finnish War in Finland was part of Sweden since circa 1250. Also, Russian president Boris Yeltsin admitted Soviet Union had performed a false flag operation by shelling its own border guards to create a justification for war.
The question should be, can Russia handle a war at two fronts when Finland sees the opportunity to seize Petsamo and Karelia back whilst Russia is occupied at the Ukrainian front
Threat comes allways from east. Allways. 🇫🇮
I doubt Finland would be alone, the old slogan "Finland cause is our cause." Would surely echo throughout Sweden once more. Nor do I think Norway or Denmark would stand by idly and let Finland fall to Russia. Russia paid a heavy price back then and should they attempt to expand into Finland once more then they will bleed, on top of that Finland now has the largest amount of artillery in Europe with at least 1500-2000 artillery pieces.
You should study Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty carefully. Coming to the aid of a NATO member that's under attack is not optional.
With EZ, Russian fear Finnish Soldiers
5:43 I am from Finland and I have been to the bunker to play sports many times
Finland was between 1809 and 1917 as an autonomous state ruled by the Russian Empire. Relative short period in our history, which was caused by a lost war by Sweden. Before that Finland was part of Sweden, whose values and culture we identify 100% more close. For about 80 years, we have prepared. F around and find out.
Finland my favourite country in Europe, because of her heroic history.Their Winter war with Russia and organisation after it even after loosing Karelia,have impressed me.What a nation👍
Right question is, would Russia survive?
Ever heard of Molotov-Rippentrop-pact?
The pact between Nazis and Communists.
Not "most likely" but certainly when it comes to who started the Winter war. The russians even admitted to the "shelling of Mainila" at one point but since then have started to again falsely claim it was the Finns that started the war.
Russia offering Finland an exchange of land is something I as a Finn have never heard of. I'm sure you have some source to offer here? @1:20ish into the thing.
@@CycnusInfernus but actually,the biggest reason why finland wasnt willing to exhange land, was because ussr requested naval base near helsinki, and that was non negotiable
Probably biggest mistake ever for us was not to agree to the land exchange. We would have quite a bit of more land now, including artic sea access. Also a lot more forest in the east to cut down for profit 😄
@@sundflux You're naively thinking that the Soviet Union would've left it at that.
@@peabase It might have, considering what germans were doing all over the europe.Friendliness goes long ways, even with possible enemies.
@@sundflux Considering what the Soviets did to the Baltic States after putting military bases there, there's little doubt that Finland would've suffered the very same fate, Germans or no Germans. After all, Hitler had given Stalin permission to do his worst with Fnland. Wittingly or unwittingly, don't lend credence to Russian historical revisionists.
Well well.......as a Finn myself, when the second WW ended, the Finns naturally kept the armed forces. That's a mark that your country still exists. Russia set some limits, forexample no submarines, we need to pay money for caused destruction to Russia till 1952, when the Helsinki Olympics took place. After that we become a trading partners. We have forced to make machinery, boats, trains all stuff for them Soviets for free till 1952. After that we started to sell the same Items to them that caused a rapit economical grow for our economy. In addition Finland never took/asked a Marshall aid that USA gave many European nations to rebuild the Europe. The US stayed more richer because they didn't get so heavy bombardment that the Europe took place. After second world war started a new period when everybody wanted to forget the past and start a new future, how the human mind works. It's set in Finnish constitution that all Finnish men needs to serve in a military, many nations changed it, forget it. The land area of Finland is mostly lakes, forest, tricky areas, very hard to invade for a huge square meter. Land area of Finland is bigger than the UK. We had around 400000 Finnish soldiers in a continuation war and around 200000 germans total 600000. If you want to invade a land of Finland size, you need at least 1million to 2million soldiers to make it, for it's huge size. As a Finn I see, we kept our some kind of defence forces well but I wouldn't say that we were so interested as a war in a nation before an Ukraine invasion. Putin was very stupid that tried to conquer the land size of France (Ukraine) with 200000 troops. If you attack, you need always to have ten times more power/forces than the defender. In winter war Finnish soldiers slept in a tents, with an oven to cook coffee and tea, while the soviets died in the snow with nothing!
Finland was an autonomous Grandduchy in Russia in the years 1809-1917 . Before year 1809 Finland was part of the kingdom of Sweden for about 700 ( seven hundred) years. Finland became independent in year 1917.
"Finland became independent in year 1917." - In practice however in 1918 because Lenin's troops had to be expelled from Finland in the Freedom War. The last Russians were kicked out in 15 May 1918 from Ino Fortress.
Yes
As we fought the Ivan,it was existential the last two times. Yes,we lost those two times,but came out both times with our souverenity intact. One can say we lost,but won our independence two times on a row.
That's well put. "You win some you lose some."
Most of all of this video I could agree on, but not on the cause of the winter war. At that point of time Soviet Union an Nazi-Germany were actually allied. Look up Molotov-Ribbentop Pact. Soviets negotiated a deal with Germans to split the Europe between themselves. Only after the pact was signed soviets decided that they need to invade and occupy Finland. Soviets didn't expect much resistance so their troops had their parade uniforms with them and instructions to stop at the Swedish border. That plan didn't quite work out for Stalin.
USSR and Nazi-Germany were friends before 1941, they even developed tanks together on Soviet soil before WW2 (Rapallo agreement). Finland asked help from Germany when the USSR attacked but Germany didn't give because of the union with USSR. USSR also together with Nazi Germany invaded Poland on September 17, 1939 and held a joint victory parade on September 22.
@@londop.a.3048there were two wars in Finland. In the winter war 1939-1940 Finland was fighting alone. The continuation war 1941-1944 was a different story. N. Germany got involved then.
It was 3 wars, Winter War, Continued War and Lapland War.
Finland became an autonomous part of Russia, a Grand Duchy in 1809. Before that belonging to the Swedish Kingdom. Independent since 1917.
Long memory.
Those bomb shelters create a great storage unit for every apartment unit in Finland (most cities have been built 1950-1980 out of these). Costly shelters for sure, but the need for storage companies is smaller. Only in the past decade the popularity of rentable storage units has increased (and even that is due to the 0% interests that we had in that decade, which made real estate investing seem lucrative).
Kindly correct the history part: Finland was autonomic area of Russia for 100 years only. We are not by any means Russia minded, nor Swedish minded in the otherhand. Its Finland and finnish(!) even we had sometimes foreign govermental occupacy!
There was no "Finland" in 1200 when Swedes entered the land that is now Finland. This area was inhabited mainly by the tribes of Häme, Savo and Karjala and these tribes were in almost continuous war against each other. In 1809-1917 Finland was Grand Duchy of the Russian Csar, an autonomous state not being integral part of Russia. Finland had own currency, own laws, own senate and even own army. Of course this all changed in 1899 when started the infamous Russification period.
In three words the winter war . Älä koskaan ole enää yksin .
the question is, could russia/
Answer to the title: They have always been smart.
1. russia is to weak to invade Finland 2. Finland would send raven and all other vikings would come and we all know what that means,how badass vikings are....no need for NATO.
Back to Dungeons & Dragons with you. We need alliances, not fantasy games.
Before being an autonomous grand duchy of Russia's Empire of tsar Finland was directly a part of Sweden for over 600 years. Even today Swedish is the second official language of Finland.
mine the borders
They are already mined
Yea, make my day, punk!
Our defense isn't as much about winning, more to prevent assault pro-active.. There will be no winner, so lets just be neighbors? But how Russia behaves now days that alone might not be enough, so thats where Nato comes to picture.
Finland is on top of it.
Hey Chat GPT, write an eight minute video about Finlands military history and defense. Hey AI voice, read this.
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Unfortunately, you are wrong, it was Mannerheim who wanted a greater Finland. So why was Finland forbidden to have a mini army of just 4,500 men and no submarines etc!?
You are wrong. Mannerheim did not want that.
What a lot of half-truths and incomplete information!. Finland was a Swedish territory until 1809, and the Finnish language was suppressed until then. When it become part of Tsarist Russia, Finnish peasants were no longer exploited and the Finnish language was allowed and flourished (not exactly without some purpose by the Russians: they wanted to alienate the vast majority of the Finnish population who were Finnish-speakers from the minority Swedish.speaking section of the population. Anyway, it worked and during those approx. 100 years of being part of Russia, Finland flourished. After the 2nd world war, the Soviet Union having fought a bitter winter war with Finland in which Finns were outnumbered by 40:1, The Soviet Union agreed to accept the northern part of Finland and access to the Polar Ocean plus the small port of Petsamo as well as the eastern region including Viipuri, and in return allowed Finland to remain an independent, non-aligned state (unlike some of the Soviet Republics that had lost their status as independent states, e.g.- Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, etc). Finland was never forced to join countries of the Warsaw Pact and remained free! Until recently, we had regular student and academic exchanges with Russia, could freely travel to Russia and had normal trade relations with our neighbour. There was no fear or talk of any Russian invasion and in fact in 1958 (I think it was in March), the last Russian occupying forces left Finlanmd! Finland did fight wars with Russia, sure, nobody can deny that, but Finland also owes Russia a great deal and many Finns also realize that.
Alexander I and Aleksander II were good tsars, but later the tsars were not so good . They wanted to russify Finland, but with no success. Those years are called periods of oppression.
can russia survive another finland invasion? :D
Well ... Finns occupied Moscow in 1610.
No one really helped finland in those wars. The plan was just to hold russians back until help arrived, but it never did. Only few thousand swedish soldiers came to help Finland, but thats it.
When the forests starts to speak Finnish Russians would be In trouble again . Suomi-Finland SISU PERKELE
Can Russia?
Njet problem, normal katastrof
Finland is the Israel of Europe, small but F around and find out kind of deal.
but actually a good country which doesn't commit genocide and mass murder on the regular
@@nosse8073 Neither does Israel, you are right.
@@nosse8073Hamas is doing it.
Russias not interested in attacking Finland unless the usa launches nuclear missles from there
There is so much wrong in this video so yes it sort of touches the war but facts, pictures, maps and so on are just wrong. I won't sit and correct em just that you could have done a better job yourself, like I am not getting paid for people looking at this.
It was not very deep analysis. But there were no errors. Our 870 000 reserve is growing because today if war would come men over 50year can go war also. There are plenty of good material 50-60years old. Atleast 30% of them are good or very good shape. So reserve number is way over 1million today.
@@harrikuusjarvi3795Did you watch the same video as me? There was many details very wrong. Like open your eyes and watch it again until you find em.
@@harrikuusjarvi3795Epäilen ettet oo ees täält päin tai sit joku on kyl vähäsen Z vedelly historian tunnil...
@@harrikuusjarvi3795I do understand that if you are from another country influenced by Soviet or USA after WW2 you will think this version seems like a correct one. Or if you only have watched videos about Finland them all repeating the same wrong details. I didn't pay much attention to the details until a KZheadr from USA making lots of videos about Finland one time cut out a part of the video he was reacting to because it spoke against the history he had been told(like why add the dirty things you did when you can promote only the good things and shove the negative stuff under the carpet).
@@harrikuusjarvi3795If you still don't get it, look at the map and listen to him. The whole reason why the Winter War started is the BS version when we all know it had to do with the deal they made with Germany and they saw Finland as theirs. They wanted that area because it was heavily defended and would have made an invasion easier if they didn't have to fight their way through the defensive line. Then they wanted tactical locations to make an full scale invasion easier by being able to take out the capitol fast. This is only a tiny part of the video and it just keeps repeating the errors others have made earlier in YT videos... Its parroted and the creator of the video has done nothing to get the facts correct.
Finland needs to retake its land back from Russia!
When USSR in 1992 collapsed, Karelians joked that now they must declare war to Finland and then immediately surrender to get occupied by Finns 😂
Russia ruined those territories very badly. Finland does not want them back.
Can Finland survive WEF invasion? No!
Yes we can... we have done that since time of vikings 😂
suur suomi is comming
Finland never was part of Russia proper. We are the eastern hslf of Sweden. Between the Nspoleonic wars and WW I Finlsnd was autonomous 8n personal union with Russta.Thst period lasted shorter than the time of ideåenence already. Russian never was widely spoken here... only by thw few refugees after their revolution and civil war.
No, Sweden did NOT help Finland 😟
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_intervention_in_the_Winter_War
Just took care of a lot of evacuated Finnish children, and we got volunteer soldiers and material aid etc. Not sure if you mean Sweden should have stopped being a neutral country, but we did get a lot of help despite that not happening.
..You are wright,Iam sorry .- I MENT MILITARY HELP BY GOVERMENT NOT VALUNTEERS but Sweden sold lot of iron fo Germany duringww2,,,,,,,NEUTRAL?@@ro--M
Get your story right. Russia has NEVER invaded Finland. Soviet Union (which is different than Russia) did so in 1939, about 85 years ago. Before that it was Russia vs Sweden which Finland was a part of. There you have it. Better luck next time.
Have you ever heard of "The greater Wrath." That's a period of Russian occupation in Finland 1700-1721.
Finland might prevail for a while but our nation is so small and our yearly birth rates are tiny. We would be decimated like the ukrainians are. Hopefully the war never happens.
Why are we Finn's prepared?!? With neighbor like Russia?!? Seriously?
Why does peoples have so dumb questions when russia have so shited it self in ukrainian-russo war (2014- now)
Finland was one of poorest countries in Europe during the Second World War.