Why Do Western People Hate Themselves? - Douglas Murray
Douglas Murray is a journalist, author and associate editor of The Spectator.
The last few years has seen a dramatic rise of anti-Westernism. But surprisingly, the sentiment hasn't come from overseas, the strongest anti-Western sentiment has come from the West itself. Whether it's demands for reparations, calls for the abolishment of white people, tearing down of statues or the rewriting of history, something is going on.
Expect to learn why Dumbledore can't be gay in China, why BLM bought a 6 million dollar mansion, what Douglas thinks about Libs Of TikTok being doxxed, why anti-white racism sounds so disgusting when you change the wording, why there's more slaves alive now than at any time in history but no one cares, Douglas' personal philosophy around working hard and much more...
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00:00 Intro
00:52 Dumbledore Can't Be Gay In China
07:21 Douglas' Gay Privilege Card
11:24 Libs of TikTok Doxxed
19:17 The War on the West
33:23 The Second Worst Book Ever
41:25 The History Of Slave Trades
47:22 Why Revise History?
52:38 Winston Churchill vs Karl Marx
1:02:17 The Root of Anti-Westernism
1:13:22 BLM’s 6-Million Dollar Mansion
1:21:22 White Supremacists
1:28:33 Trends Towards Conspiratorial Thinking
1:37:11 What Drives Douglas?
1:51:32 Trusting Your Instincts
1:55:44 Choose Your Regrets
2:10:39 Where to Find Douglas
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Hello cult members. Here's the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:52 Dumbledore Can't Be Gay In China 07:21 Douglas' Gay Privilege Card 11:24 Libs of TikTok Doxxed 19:17 The War on the West 33:23 The Second Worst Book Ever 41:25 The History Of Slave Trades 47:22 Why Revise History? 52:38 Winston Churchill vs Karl Marx 1:02:17 The Root of Anti-Westernism 1:13:22 BLM’s 6-Million Dollar Mansion 1:21:22 White Supremacists 1:28:33 Trends Towards Conspiratorial Thinking 1:37:11 What Drives Douglas? 1:51:32 Trusting Your Instincts 1:55:44 Choose Your Regrets 2:10:39 Where to Find Douglas
I love Mr Williamson's time stamps. He respects his audience's time. Much respect I'm already a subscriber.
You have to look at it from this angle: why don't people believe that China is a problem - even with their bigotry and _isms? Western nations enveloped themselves in EVERYTHING when they colonized people around the world; they taught people to be like them, whilst China is mainly hands off and business orientated. People aren't crying about "integrating" with the Chinese, are they? No, they remain reserved and distant and allow others to do what they do with their OWN communities. Anglosaxon nations were extremely narcissistic projecting to others how they should think, personally. And this is the result. Don't be mad at the children, it's the parents fault.
If by "White supremacists" you mean White nationalists that want to rule over other races, thats utter nonsense!. Thats a myth. If defined as White people wanting to rule supreme over their own racial territory, free from any infleunce of racial strangers than theres Nothing immoral about that at all! The term "White supremacist" is nothing more than an AntiWhite slur used by those who do not want White people to oppose multiracialism which is ultimately genocide, its racial erasure. Anyone who advocates for multiracialism in any way shape or form should be put in prison to say the least. Liberals who are racially White are traitorous scum who are doing nothing but screaming at their own fellow White people as to why theyre not destroying themselves quick enough. Theyre siding with Antiwhite nonwhites who are active and have been since the end of WW2 in destroying the White European people. Theres Nothing "theoretical" about whats happening to White people north, south, east and west and it is a deliberate, malicious conspiracy by brainwashed Whites and AntiWhite nonwhites. The truth is coming out. No gatekeepers like Douglas Murray or anyone else can stop the truth from coming out and to who the blame lays.
1:01:00 Here's the answer to why Marx hasn't been reviled, but celebrated: kzhead.info/sun/jJ2Nps2BrIqGhn0/bejne.html All part of Vladimir Lenin's 100 year plan. It's working, too.
Speaking of privilege… If Douglas had a working class accent & vocabulary, would he be “cancelled”?
I'm black and tired of being addressing these things day in and day out. I approve this brother with full fledged conviction. He is just speaking plain common sense.
Thank you. As someone who strongly opposes so many elements of persistent racism in the US like how awful the US court system is for minorities. I’ve always thought the goal was equality and to rid ourselves of all of this prejudice bullshit as best we can going forward. Sometimes it feels like the Left just wants revenge and that will lead to nothing but endless cycles of violence.
Left fascists have one thing right. They never fairly debate the issues. All they're interested in is if you support them, and if you don't, they physically attack and terrorize you, then do everything they can to ruin your life. If the majority of the public would brutally beat anyone who expressed anything resembling a woke view in public, the Left would suddenly realize the value of free speech. We'd get a handle on this Left fascist problem rather quickly thereafter.
You can’t dissect black and white racism with common sense. It’s much more nuanced than that. Stop being simple minded.
@@mfit7110 This is the incorrect medium to dissect whatever issue properly. I don't conceptualize racism or any discriminatory behavior by categories. So "black and white" racism is a definition I can't compute, since every kind of social discrimination stems from the same root. You are also ignoring completely the very definition of common sense. It implies deliberate simplicity and lack of sophistication in order to make sound judgment instead of overthinking issues. Emphasis on the 'common' part of it. It means focus on the shared simplicity about the truth of the most relevant aspects of harmonious coexistence, in a transverse fashion across the beforementioned aspects. As in, the kind of sense that if you apply it in whatever issue, you are the most likely to not incurr in grave error, regardless of particularities. In this issue, specifically, common sense says to evaluate every and any person based on the contents of their character only. Period. Simple enough for me. I have no desire to overcomplicate this further. It is working well for me, I am blessed enough to have the chance to grow and learn with people from wherever on Earth their are from, they frequently express gratitude for my way of being and this graces me with lifelong relationships of nurture, trust and camaraderie. so simple minded I shall remain.
@@mfit7110 Sure you can. At the moment, the driving force behind such racism in the West are Left fascists. It one of the primary means by which they seek to revitalize their fortunes.
I adore Douglas Murray. Articulate, sassy, witty and incredibly intelligent. Great interview Chris.
The most islamophobic person I've seen
@@AC-mp7cxthat's because you have no idea what that means. 🐑🐑
@@SharpTac they are a buglar of turds
Sassy 💁🏻♂️
@@AC-mp7cx that's a good thing. It's a religion of evil that praises a pedophile warlord
‘ There’s a type of person who tears at wounds long since closed and then shrieks about the pain they feel’ …brilliant and sums it up perfectly.
What is or what do you call this type of behavior, something for nothing, That's what the word nogger, is identified as.
No wound heals completely, it has scars and is sensitive to the touch. But when you see a nation via its policy doing cruel and evil things to other nations people or to it own citizens...I then feel my flesh pulled apart and the on going injustice
As the BLM mansion and people like Anita Sarkeesian, among so very many others, aptly demonstrate in my opinion, there is money in being a professional victim. Always follow the money. In politics, in religion, in business, in movements and protests, always follow the money.
No wounds were closed. We didnt get reparations and you spent the entirety of 1/2 a millennium attacking non white people on every continent.
@@brianbard3846The word is "liberal."
I am irish. The irish people were a victim of a genocide in the great famine. Those who managed to escape were treated like dirt. There were signs in the windows of stores saying No dogs or Irish. No one talks about this. Why ? Well because it is over. Why must we be constantly apologizing for this particular inequality when history is packed full of slavery and oppression of every race and ethnicity?
The Irish were taken as slaves to the new world in great numbers. Before they used blk slaves, it was hundreds of thousands of Irish in the 17th century.
Because if you don't learn it in schools and you don't talk about it in a way that teaches people that it was wrong on so many levels, as human nature showed multiple times, you will repeat it. And usually someone can use it again to stear up the conflicts.
@@arsicpedjatrue, but in today's focus on black slavery, today's white people (none of which participated in slavery) are being expected to compensate today's black people (none of which have ever been treated as slaves). How is this teaching anyone anything wholesome and honest? Or is moving on from that horrible part of history not the goal, rather getting paid is?
Have you heard of the Magdolins?
When black people talk about slavery the easiest way to shut them up is to tell them my grandmother was Irish. Enslaved by the british for hundreds of years, and when they weren't enslaved their living conditions were much worse than slaves of early america. Slaves on plantations in the south could at least be certain that they would have food to eat and a place to sleep. Irish immigrants had no such luxury - and they were often beaten in the streets just for being irish. You don't see irish americans complaining about their poor lot in life, they did everything they could to make life a little better as the generations went on.
I'm white, grew up in Canada with no money, golf lessons, ski lessons, tennis lessons etc. Made it through university on student loans and part time work. Studied thousands of hours to become a CA and generally do not take holidays. I've had no privilege and thank my parents and grandparents for giving me a work ethic. I have nobody to apologize to.
being based and redpilled is evermore important in these increasingly evil times we are living in.
And I am African, who grew up in a village with no electricity, no pipe-borne water, no public transportation and the few schools available were over subscribed and dilapidated. I still went on to study at undergraduate and post graduate levels in the US and made very good grades. So, your accomplishments are unexceptional Mr Anti-PC
@@adetolaayodele3425 congrats well done you should be proud. My point was I had no "white privilege".
, @@straighttalker9410 don't need to be congratulated. It is the norm where I come from. Ok, you may have no WP but a lot do.
@@adetolaayodele3425 Funny how you don’t mind moving to live under oppression
If anyone is carrying the torch that Christoper Hitchens left behind, its this man. Absolutely, balls out, telling it as it is and rubbing all the right people up the wrong way. I have enormous respect for douglas.
M. -- I think Mr. Murray is more accurate in his apparent understanding of our situation even more than Mr. Hitchens ...
You used rubbing and balls in the same sentence.
Adore 'im.
Thankfully Douglas is not a horrific alcoholic and is in much better health.
When he said "I might have invoked my gay privilege if I was very left wing... ...or remotely left wing" - was channeling Hitch - I lolled.
Chris Williamson is a really excellent interviewer, gives his guest time to talk, listens well and asks thoughtful questions
He also does well to engage with those who are highly intellectual. Hats off to Chris and good luck on being so close to 1Mil Subs.
Went far too soft on Sham Harris.
Totally agree. I’ve just found him on KZhead. First was interview with Peter Zahan. I’ve seen other interviews with Peter, but his was the best with the most thoughtful questions.
You mean like Piers Morgan... ... ... ok I managed to hold a straight face for 5 seconds there.
I've watched scores of Murray's interviews of the past few years, but this one might have been his finest. Bravo to both of you.
Have you seen his munk bedate on the mainstream media? It's very good.
Love when Douglas finishes writing a book, because he then goes on tour and has so many amazing conversations.
oh the dogs can certainly hear all that whistling ;)
As does every author lol
@@kaivogel253?
@@kaufmanat1 not every authpr peddles casual racism
@@kaivogel253 "anything I disagree with us a racist dog whistle"........you're not convincing anyone with your nonsense.
God I wish I had professors like Douglas during my college years: 2003-2007. The woke thing was not in full gear but all of my humanities professors were post-modernists. I didn't quite know what that meant at the time but looking back it's crystal clear. My education was a sadly and totally useless waste of time and money. My father was very conservative and thank God for that cause he taught me to see through a lot of bullshit. He wasn't perfect nor did I agree with him but conservatism keeps you grounded and pragmatic. He was an airplane mechanic and his blue collar wisdom is ten thousand times wiser than anything a tenured professor taught us.
As DennisPrager has said, “you have to be a college graduate to be that dumb.”
@@graymatters7584Or you could quote yourself and post an original thought, dummy, instead of copying and pasting someone else's trite quip. Good luck.
I don't think I'll ever tire of listening to Douglas Murray.
As a black woman im tired of being forced to be a victim. I have a masters degree, a business and have traveled the world. Sooooo hard being me Edit: the most racism I have experienced has been from black men and south asian people. I experienced racism from white people when I was younger but now things have improved. We should be celebrating the fact that the world is a lot less racist then it was 20 years ago.
exactly. I find this obsessive framing of various groups of people as "victims" insanely insulting. This is the opposite of empowerment.
Yeah, we don’t hear a lot about that but it has to be a topic of conversation amongst peers no?
*recieves affirmative action* then proceeds to complain about being "forced" to be a victim, when another group is literally being quota'd limitation in spaces whether acceptance, admission or hiring
The only thing I have to say to you sir is can I have a job? )
@@ShadyRonin if you perpetually frame people as victims, they are easier to control. It is the opposite of empowerment.
He’s one of the best voices of this generation. Period. No argument.
Top three
menstural cycle
Jesse Lee Peterson is awesome too except not nearly as well-spoken as Douglas haha
yeah racists don't like it when you argue with them about their lies and claims. They cry "I'm being cancelled" immediately once you put their words to the test.
@@kaivogel253 come up with a new word than racist, it doesn't work anymore
Douglas Murray is a true treasure! He sees and details things that most of us may not fully appreciate or understand. He uses wit and insight, in ways that make him such a pleasure to listen to.
Chris and Douglas...what a pair! I have been listening to this conversation while knitting. The time flew by and i wished it would somehow never end. I learned so much on multiple subjects. It was wonderful to be able to have someone explain things i never could grasp. Turns out, Douglas, we share some things in common...not wanting to waste time, hating shopping and going stores, and considering Abraham Lincoln the greatest American. I want to follow your writings. I just added your last three books and a biography of Lincoln to my Kindle library. Chris, i will be viewing more of your KZhead programs. I very much enjoy listening to such wise and slow speaking younger individuals which adds to my understanding of what is happening in the world. Thank you for this program. Best regards from this 76 year old woman who was raised in Wisconsin, spent most of her life around Washington DC, lived at the beginning of this century in London where my husband was the VOA bureau chief, and now is growing older in North Carolina.
I'm not even 15 minutes in and I'm already OBSESSED! Finally a voice of sanity in today's absolutely insane world.
Sanity. You have clearly found someone who reinforces your dumbass point of view. What a joke. Dumb dumb dumb.
He's magnificent
LGBT+ and power. I worked for a flight school and we had a fellow join us to continue his training, us being the third school he tried. This person could not meet the requirements and standards for solo flying. No one at the school had the slightest idea he was gay, yet one day our manager received a call from Pride Pilots, an LGBT organization accusing our school of being homophobic because the person in question was not proceeding as they had planned, although they didn’t meet the standards which are laid out by the govt. All the students flying was well documented and my manager explained that to the Pride representative. To our chagrin, this representative decided to threaten my manager by stating, “ you know we can ruin your reputation”. Thankfully our organization had a good record of being an inclusive flight school, but the fact they used a threat gives weight to the notion that it’s all about power. No consideration to the multitudes of people that are dependent on the flight school for their livelihood. None! Just a show of power and no one has a chance to fight back. This stuff will set LGBT rights back to the dark ages if this stuff continues.
Exactly. It’s the activists that are ruining things for groups. Doesn’t matter whether it’s gay activists, black activists, etc… As a gay Republican, all of these gay activists do not speak for me or other gay people that I know. And they try to lump us all into one group which gets on my nerves. How many more groups are they going to add to LGBTQRSTUVgfh. It’s ridiculous.
Except that if they pencil whip his credentials and sign off on him to be a pilot rather than Pride Pilots taking responsibility for him, subsequently, should he screw up and crash, killing others and damaging property because he lacks skills as pilot, the flight school bears responsibility.
Michael I’m afraid this reminds me of a wife who wants to get at her husband (ruin his career) and accuses him of abusing their children.
@@shamanosarcasm9800 yes. Exactly, and that adds weight to my story. Pride Pilots knew they didn’t have a case relative to the students training, but still went ahead and used their power to threaten the schools reputation. That’s tyrrany.
'This stuff will set LGBT rights back to the dark ages if this stuff continues' stop saying that as if it's true. They are progressing just fine, the rest of the people are not.
"I thought I owed it to the ruins of my family." Utterly profound. I could listen to this man for hours. He is a treasure.
runes possibly?
I’m black I saw this at the beginning of George Floyd and I gathered together a group of women of all races to discuss it, and I also discussed it with my black sorority sisters and what I got from Black people is anger and resentment that had been bubbling under the surface for years I said “what do you want?” they said “we want an apology”, but I know human nature and an apology is never enough. I knew that it was not about an apology they wanted retribution and that’s exactly what happened. Psychologists know when a person has been victimized even if their abuser is punished and apologizes it doesn’t provide healing. The healing begins with forgiveness…it IS about retribution…he frames it perfectly?
Do your black sisters know that whites are also killed by cops but the media ignores it? There was a similar case of suffocation on camera of a white man Tony T i m p a, and statistics also show that blacks are more likely to kill cops than the reverse.
I can relate to the victim and abuser. Abuser has apologized and I feel nothing. Doesn’t make me feel any different because that trauma is still there. I believe it is about forgiveness when you’re ready to forgive and that’s when we can start healing.
An apology for something that never happened to them, by people who did nothing. Makes sense.
When I think about the behavior of people on the left (crying, lying, acting like a victim), I can’t understand why anyone would want to be like them. Be like these guys: Smart, funny, collected, rational, and balanced. Great conversation
Because it's a cheap way of explaining everything and cheap way of getting some petty power and declaring your autonomy. It's hard work to do it the other way. Even if you're a leftist intellectual, still hard work. And it takes a little courage too.
Intellect and rationality are not possessions of the right, historically more the opposite if anything. There are plenty of left wing thinkers who hold these positions however are unable to discuss due to the reactions of the radicals.
I used to be an independent who usually voted left. Now I would not vote left if they paid me. I have a feeling The left is going to wake up one day soon and wonder what happened to their party and control.
@@1888zw intellect? No, what I think you’re describing is elitism. All I’ve heard my whole life is that you can’t truly be an intellectual unless you’re on the left. Then again, we have mostly all lived in a world where Repressive Tolerance (Marcuse) reigns supreme both academically and culturally. It’s a social cudgel to say that the right does not have intellect. It’s a way of saying “you’re not smart enough to agree with me (us), nor do you have the capacity to even understand why you aren’t smart enough to agree with me (us).” And who would want to be on the side that is, as you suggest, historically lacking intellect? So everyone agrees with the left and hopes to be part of the elite, otherwise they risk being called stupid and backward, or are indicted as a racist.
Simple answer. It pays to be a victim!
I'm an American I don't think I've ever heard a single American talk about Lincoln as admiringly as Murray did here.
Lincoln was exactly the first thing I thought of when Churchill's statue was being discussed. Then I thought of the statue at the Lincoln memorial in the Capitol. If ever there was an iconic carven image in America, this is it. By that moment I was in complete lockstep with Murray, having breathed that name, carving and location just moments before he got to it. For this to be under threat? Is indeed, to be at war. There is something so intensely beloved about that image. I would give anything to walk up to it....alone. And have just five minutes to be illuminated, just as carven as this image of a great being who sits at rest before me. True, there are places - like the ceiling of the Sistine chapel, I suppose. But this one reposes in the heart of America. It is far more than just a simple celebration. It is also a reminder, a call, a warning, a great hope.
Lincoln was a tyrant whose throne and legacy was built with lies upon the corpses of millions of people and the ashes of dozens of towns/cities.
Sic Semper Tyrannis.
lmao I have... leave your community for once in your life
I sure have
I have been following Douglas for over ten years now, and this was the first interview in which his essential nature was laid bare. A compelling interview, of which Chris should rightly be proud.
Douglas Murray is my favorite author right now. Great interview👏👏👏👏
What a breath of fresh air Douglas Murray is. He gives me hope. 👏👏
Hope for Douglas, hope for society, but if I try to measure up, no hope for me. 😢
@normkeller2405 nihilism is the ultimate excuse. The biggest rival is ones self. Be the best version of your self you can be, and don't let excuses get in the way It's a slow, daily practice. If you listen to any successful person, they all talk about consistency. They've just been doing it longer/experienced
@@normkeller2405*
Communist in my country Czechoslovakia did try to hide our past heroes and rewrite the Czech history. Luckily they did not succeed but I fear for the west now. Thank you for this fantastic interview.
Fear for the West too. Slowly but surely it's being transformed.
Thank you.
I'm considering fleeing from the Socialist Democratic People's Paradise of Sweden to Czechia, the primary reason being that Czechia, and other former Soviet states, don't seem to fall for this woke bulls**t. I hope I'm right in that assumption.
@@arcticmentor7452 Not so far
These Ex communist states remember all too well where all of this foolishness goes to. I love that out of all of Europe, these states are the ones holding the lines more than anyone else.
Douglas Murray is a gem. He speaks the truth with great insight.
I just can't get enough of Douglas Murray he talks so much sense and is extremely interesting. Thank-you for all your work and getting this stuff out for the sake of humanity and preserving out history which has been increasingly dismantled.
Chris and Douglas ALWAYS make for a BRILLIANT podcast!
you missspelled "idiotic" again.
@@kaivogel253 who misssssspelled?
@@kaivogel253 I don't account for stupidity. That's your department.
@@redpillcertified9297 be careful not to choke on that red pill. Also it's a suppository ;)
@@kaivogel253 you might be the dumbest person I've seen today.....congratulations....XD
What a breath of fresh air to have two social commentators who have common sense and a gay man who is not caught up in all the crap that seems to go along with any gay movement these days. The pendulum has well and truly swung, in a remarkably short period of time, to the point that where (even in Australia) our social, educational and political institutions have launched full pelt beyond any notion of equality and straight into reverse discrimination. How ironic that I never experienced any obvious discrimination in the workplace as an openly gay man, but now I feel discrimination as a white man!
Agreed. Things went from “equality” (which was badly needed of course), to “payback time, bitches!” in a very short amount of time. Apparently nothing was learned from our race (white) treating people like shit… because it doesn’t help society, it hurts cultural camaraderie, and only serves to breed hate and resentment amongst those who are hated towards the ones being hateful assholes. Talk about an over correction.
@@RetreatHell Many thanks for your reply, Paul. I'm glad someone understood the point I was trying to make. I've always been an advocate of equality, but even in Australia, which is pretty remote geographically and culturally, you'll find people being chosen in advertisements and in the media, and promoted to high positions on the basis of their gender and minority status. I'd hate to be a young white man trying to begin a career these days ... No Hope! Cheers.
Absolutely. As am aside, I was extremely heart broken to hear Pat Cummins is a full bore Wokel.
what kind of discrimination do you feel ?
@@realMaverickBuckley I must have missed Pat Cummins being 'full bore Woke"? Does he want to include women, or better still, trans women, in the Australian Men's cricket team - HaHa? What have you read/ heard?
Love the conversational chemistry between these two gentlemen. 👌🏻 refreshing.
Absolutely love all the Douglas Murray episodes.
We love you Douglas!! You are a blessing to the world with your honesty and courage.
racist lies have nothing to do with honesty
@@kaivogel253 Which is why people like Douglas Murray. He doesn't peddle the establishment's racist lies.
The last two sections were golden. A bit of an insight into Douglas himself, what drives him, and a glimpse of his view of the holistic world. Very good.
Absolutley
you missspelled "racist world" again. Sorry did you quit school 5 years too early?
@@kaivogel253 what
@@kaivogel253 Hello crazed leftie. Youre not mates with Paul Simmons are you?
He is correct about current slavery. In 2010 I stayed at the Plaza Hotel in NYC for a special BD. It was a week before Christmas so hotels in NYC are filled with tourists. I remarked to the bellhop that I hope he makes a lot of money in tips as the hotel was full of guests. He told me that sadly most of the rooms were taken up by the family of the Saudi Prince (the owner at the time) and they don't tip. He then told me many of the rooms were occupied by the Philipino slaves of the Saudi Royal Family. I was shocked. He said they take their passports so they can't leave and they are treated poorly as modern-day slaves.
What a wonderful interview. I’ve never had the opportunity to hear anything from Douglas that wasn’t on a specific topic; and usually as a debate. Having the opportunity to hear him talk about his career, motivations, time management, etc.,was enjoyable. He has achieved a great deal and is still a young man and I look forward to hearing a good bit more.Cheers! 🇦🇺🇺🇸🇬🇧
Great discussion! I loved the part where Douglas admitted to being irritable, as if most of us haven’t figured that out already. Aside from his intellectual acumen, one of the things I love about Douglas the most is his outright crankiness. 🥰
In Texas we would call him honery son-of-a-bitch. I, myself, like being an honery son-of-a-bitch.
I get pretty cranky watching formerly high trust high functioning Western Civilizations implode myself...
It could be that our hopes lie in the spread of that brand of crankiness.
What a pleasure to listen to you Douglas, telling it like it is, maintaining your integrity, giving me hope. The book is amazing. Straight talk, no lies.😎💐
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Without the West raising the standards of living black privilege would never exist
"The past was pretty much hell for everyone" Facts!!
I just discovered Mr. Murray, really enjoy his interviews, ideas and opinions.
you have a lot of material to get through , enjoy....
Douglas is charming and funny but most of all he’s smart and that makes him dangerous to people that seek to manipulate people.
Just like Socrates, they got rid him for educating the masses.
He has gay privilege. When a straight, cis, white male says something, his words are usually discounted because he is speaking on behalf of the patriarchy, and has no lived experience, and no history of oppression. So Douglas Murray, Larry Elder, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Bari Weiss, Blair White et al get to say things that the 'norms' can't.
So very true
Teaching people to think for themselves - very dangerous.
I used to respect him, but with these last "crises" I've come to conclusion that he is controlled opposition.
I'm a huge fan of Douglas Murray. I always make a point of pointing friends in his direction. Nobody can articulate the facts and reality of a subject better.
Very impressed with Douglas Murray, provided he learns how to be with his own mind (i.e. meditate), which he will, he will become one of the leading intellectuals of the future. And the kind we need, desperately.
Absolutely wonderful interview. Murray is a treasure.
Best podcast I've listened to in over half a decade at least. Murray is a treasure! It's good to see him being back to his best.
Regardless of the specifics of this ideological battle, the mere fact that so many are too afraid to speak openly, honestly, and in good faith about these issues is a HUGE problem. One I don't think we can overstate. Free, open discussion must be able to happen, must be encouraged and rewarded, in order for a healthy democracy to function.
*_Liberty is meaningless where the right to utter one's thoughts and opinions has ceased to exist. That, of all rights, is the dread of tyrants. It is the right which they first of all strike down._* ~ Frederick Douglass *_The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history._* ~ George Orwell *_If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear._* ~ George Orwell
It’s not really that they are afraid, it’s that they are not able to speak openly. If they do KZhead, IMDb, Facebook, Twitter, etc. will shadow ban them and no one will ever see it. I write reviews all the time on IMDb and about half of them do not get posted because I talk about Wokeness. That’s why yesterday was so historic for protecting free speech.
@@willw3736 But how does one document/prove shadow banning is occurring; the left regularly pisses down everyone's backs and whenever one of us feels disposed to object,.. _Why are you so sensitive,.. that's just rain,.. silly boy!!_ we are told???! I'm not arguing,.. I'm asking,.. how can a case be prepared and presented to *JoeSixPack* to get ordinary people aware and involved. The very ideal that Elon may make the algorithm transparent to the public is shattering,.. to the present status quo.
absolutly right Greetings from Germany
Yup, this is why the Left are freaking out hard over Elon Musk buying Twitter. If he overturns their dishonest monopoly on the cultural and political narrative, they will lose a great deal of their power. As in, without the power to ban people, they will resort to their usual insults and hate speech which will not only reveal what kind of people they really are, but as more people are allowed to openly oppose them, it will give the people who are too scared to speak openly more courage to join in and add their voices. This is what the Left fears the most, the loss of the moderate supporters (who only support them because they fear being abused, called bigots or fascists etc).
Superb conversation. Chris asks great questions and pokes for clarity and distinction. Really enjoy these interviews. Douglas Murray is as articulate and spot on as ever.
I'm intrigued to read Douglas Murray's book! I just got s huge history lesson and appreciate honesty from these two men!
Thank you, gentlemen. What a wonderful conversation to listen to. Just quietly, speaking as an ancient grandmother, I am proud that my grandson is shaping up to be a good ethical person like you guys appear to be, my granddaughters are already there. :) All best
🇺🇲💓🥲🙏🏾✨🌌 THERE'S-HOPE!!
Could listen to Murray all day. His wit, intellect, and way of saying things as they are, is refreshing in a world that will make anyone sane feel evil if they don’t listen to other kids like this
Thank you, Chris for this podcast. I actually finished it because it was not riddled with swearing like many podcasts. It shows that a conversation can actually be had without multiple f-bombs.
Glad we have people such as douglas willing to do what needs to be done thanks for doing your bit too chris.
I could listen to this wonderful man all day. So calm and collected. Great work Chris!!!
In the absence of common sense & decency, we have at least in this world Douglas Murray. Great to hear him in full flow.
Any time I listen to Douglas Murray, it’s like a crisp, cool drink of hilarious sanity
Never heard of this guy before but I'm impressed. Intelligent, articulate and has common sense. Great interview.
One of the best interviews I've seen him do. Love the point about history and wisdom being cyclical. Hitch lives on through this man.
That has been one of my enduring loves of Douglas Murray - that he NEVER starts a sentence "As a gay man..." He completely eschews his identity as a means to get one up in a conversation, or appeal to some kind of higher authority. He argues on the merits and demerits of the issues. It's precisely these modes of arguing and thinking that makes this side of the political spectrum better.
Well said.
The right puts black conservatives in front of us because they are black. lol
Didn't know he is homosexual, still don't care about any public figures sexual orientation. It has no bearing on what they are saying or doing as public figures.
he's gay?? never knew.
@@aaronwilcox4376 because we're not ad hominem losers. MLK Jr. said it best. Content of character...
Damn! I’ve never wished harder for a man not to be gay as when I discovered Douglas Murray, from a female perspective who is a centrist that leans right he is a whole package, handsome, intelligent, polite and sensitive when he wants to be and when he is being treated that way. And the same goes for respectful. And he has a very cutting but intelligent way of putting people in their place if they are rude to him or someone he cares about. I have watched him a lot and I have Pine for him a lot lol! He ticks all the boxesEXCEPT ONE!! (Not that I would stand a chance if he were straight anyways)
@thedingo8833 Are you me? Haha I feel exact same and have often lamented, "Why why WHY does Douglas Murray gotta be gay!!!" 😭😅
@@Muser10863 Totally agree. Douglas Murray is so charismatic, charming, he has a brilliant brain but lord it’s a shame he is gay ( as if I stood a chance, if he was straight some woman would have snapped him up years ago) Also how is it that the older Douglas gets, the better looking he gets? Like fine wine he improves with age.
Sticking with this entire conversation is completely worthwhile. 1: Choose your regrets; which ones you can bear. 2: Freedom for yourself can be very costly for others. And, the role morality plays in life is to navigate the calculation.
Best interview I’ve seen in awhile. Douglas is one of my favorite authors. Started reading him about three years ago. He really helped me wrap my head around what was really going on in clown 🤡 world 🌎
Douglas is the warrior I hope we deserve. The last 30 minutes are beautiful.
This is the 1st time I have been introduced to the man being interviewed and I have to say thank you I appreciate you and everything you say Please spot on 100% true words and this man has huge bollocks
Watch Douglas Murray in his many debates. He does not lose. Facts, wit and take downs are his great strengths.
Douglas Murray has a gift when explaining complex issues- Iv become addicted to his work! One thing I have noticed is he kind of channels Norm MacDonald when he trails off and turns a phrase as a joke- pretty great!!
Douglas Murray is a treasure. Every word from his mouth blesses me.
If Murray were aflame, Hitchens wouldn't piss him out.
Oh my gosh, I appreciate this guy. I'm going to have to read his book. We used to call it "critical thinking" now they label it being conspiratorial.
critical thinking and hatred towards muslims. God help us
His last book was really good too. The Madness of Crowds"
Good point
Aye, well said indeed
I have the book can’t wait to read, love his approach so common sense but also inspirational
I really appreciate Douglas he has such a *grounded way of thinking.* As always a very *respectful and informative conversation* revolving around *politics, life changes, improvements and philosophies.* This is a *perfect place* for people that are searching for *respectful discussions* with the goal to be as *unbiased* as *possible.* *Always appreciate the Conversations* 💪
this is probably my favorite podcast with Douglas :D
Douglas Murray is my new favorite person! He says exactly what I think.
Douglas Murray is brilliant. Fantastic and entertaining interview.
Thank you Douglas for your courage and honesty and intelligence. Truth wins at the end of the day and once we let go of fear, the confidence to act out of truth will win out.
Wonderful conversation. Thank you for having it where we could witness is.
At my school they put out a survey asking us to rate the top ten problems which they had already preselected. One of those preselected problems was “whiteness.” When I asked if this was racist, because it is, I was told reverse racism isn’t possible and given an article from 30 years ago as justification for their point of view.
Yes, reverse racism isn't possible and a woman born in a man's body can make babies without a cervix or ovaries... it's a whole new world!
Sounds mad🤔
Where? Not in the UK?
This is a you tube gem of an interview. I admire Douglas very much and you have a great style of interviewing Chris. I am very impressed that you’re not afraid to ask what is meant by a phrase or word you unclear about. I feel so much more informed about the world after listening to Douglas. Keep up the good work!👏🏼👏🏼
Not wasting time and the being able to empty your mind, I know exactly what this means. I’m spending much of my time doing two things. Currently listening to this and covering books to protect them. This is no bad thing but is not for everyone. Great conversation with so much truth. Well that is my opinion. Thank you gentlemen.
Douglas Murray is simply brilliant 👏 👌 👍
Mr. Murray is quite a man. He is insightful and witty Is while never being boring or pretentious. Of course Mr. Williamson does a terrific job as an interviewer also.
If you love history, there is nothing better than having a Brit explain it to you. And never forget that Churchill was half American, he's our favorite Brit also.
Churchill was a repulsive man and a zionist....the far right hate him
Churchill was a proven racist, much like many of you yanks.
"Churchill was half American" Only by blood. He was 100% Brit by upbringing, born and raised. Unfortunately for all his laudible achievements in WW2 he was a terrible peace time leader that probably handicapped our past war development vs the Americans even more than having to rebuild the bombed cities and infrastructure did (and that was no small thing considering the US suffered minimal domestic disruption from Nazi or Japanese bombing campaigns during the war compared to any European nation). That's not even getting into his less than stellar record prior to WW2 - even the fact that he called out Hitler's ambitions beforehand could easily be seen as one warmonger recognising another rearing his head.
@@mnomadvfx So, does that justify tearing down his statue? Maybe replace it with one of George Floyd? That's what the Left are doing, metaphorically speaking.
@@mnomadvfx No, it should be seen as saving the world.
When Chris started talking about choosing his regrets, I was strongly reminded of a novel that was far less obscure in the early '70s: "The Dice Man" by Luke Rienhart. In the book, a phsychiatrist theorises that his midlife crisis is the cumulative result of all the options he decideed against throughout his life so far. However obvious the "right" choice was, part of him is still disappointed/denied/frustrated when choosing different (if superior) path. Since his personality is the sum of the choices he has made, he decides to erase his current self in favour of a wild/true version. He does this by replacing his decision making process with a roll of one or more dice and a list of options (allowing the odds to favour more unremarkable behaviour for a more gentle slide into insanity). Fun book with pretty solid Psychological theory (at the time) at it's heart. The sequel appeared over 20 years later, telling the tale of the origional protaganist's son, searching for the father that vanished after the events of "The Dice Man". Cheers, Dan ;o)-
Thank you Douglas Murray for not being afraid to “say the thing.”
I have Murray's book and it is amazing. There is a beacon of hope.
Chris has such a gift for asking questions, that bring out a deeper part of the guest, and a more personal side. Incredibly interesting!
Douglas is a fascinating guy. I really like him.
Him and Neil Oliver are always spot on
Great interview. Thank you, both.
* stands & claps furiously thank you both for this. Chris is a great interviewer. he asks a question & lets the answer breath. i really REALLY appreciate this. great work.
Great to see you two talking in person, better connection. Douglas has a magnificent mind & the ability to articulate the honest way he sees the world. In a world full of irrelevant information he is a treasure. He is necessary.
Douglas makes a great point about taking pride in the amount of the world we owned, being only a small island. The map he described, SHOULD be up in all our schools in Britain, alongside all of Britains iconic personalities, inventors, artists, authors, and sporting heroes. These things, and people should be celebrated and remembered forever.
Likewise all socialists should be hated. We should teach small children to despise Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin and Mao, just as we teach them to hate Hitler and Goebbels. Everyone should learn from a young age that socialists deserve nothing better than contempt. When they provoke us they deserve much worse.
If you can be proud of the good things, you can also be ashamed of the bad things
@@sumatra_7174 what's the point of being ashamed of things that can't be changed? I'm unapologetic of everything, and anything Britain has done. We have more to be proud of, than to be ashamed of. This is my country's history, good, bad and ugly. I won't bow to any attempts to make me apologise, feel guilty, or ashamed of, when it comes to my white Britishness, and pride there in. Good day to you.
@@MrJocky82 Because guilt is one of the ways socialists distract the public when they are extracting wealth from them. I'm Armenian. My people were enslaved and abused for 900 years by the Ottoman Turks, then escaped a genocide. When the Bolsheviks saw how weak and beleaguered we were, they killed our leaders and stole our country. Now we are in America, and the same Left fascists are telling us that we should be ashamed of slavery and should pay them a penalty for it. What are we supposed to be ashamed of - losing?
Douglas murray is definitely 1 of my heros. Gonna get his books soon.
that man can write? xD He must have had help xD
@@kaivogel253 One of the best selling books since release.. So a quite succesfull one aswell!
Douglas Murray is a national treasure I wish I could claim as an American. He’s a great man.
I believe he's living in the U.S. now
@@michaelwicklund17 Really? Wonder why. It’s turned into such a horrible place (my birth country). Maybe he can be an influence for good.
He lives in NYC now.
@@Lurch685 please keep him there, we don't need anymore racists in Europe.
@@kaivogel253 when everyone’s a “racist”, no one is. Grow up and get over your childish name calling.
An old US woman who absolutely Loves Douglas Murray.
Douglas makes some very important points, and he does elegantly.
I'm from Poland. And it's nothing new in the Africa's own slavery tradition (Ashanti Kingdom, Zanzibar, Zulu Kingdom, Benin Kingdom) but it's very good that someone said it loud. Thanks for this video. P.S. The point about African slaves in Gulf Countries (although I knew something about it (Sultanate of Oman was/is slave owner's country)) but wow. The specific detail's was terrific and brutally true. Thank You.
Watch Thomas Sowell, he lays it out brilliantly.
Oscar ,what kind of Polish last name is it? Are you from India?
@@zbigniewbielejewski7501 No, Zbigniew. My father is from Republic Democratic of Congo and my mother is from Poland.
@@oskarkasanji2164 Democratic Republic of Congo sounds proud but a bit of an oxymoron if you get my drift. I wonder how you're finding living in Poland. Are you in touch with your dad?
Im a fan of Mr. Murray's work but his accent definitely adds +20 charisma
Shameful thing that. Can't say i'm immune either.
I wasn’t planning on listening to this podcast until I heard the accent
I'm English, and I still appreciate his accent 😁
Have you noticed he pronounces your country 'Amurruka'?
@@saltburner2 probably because he’s a queen
True guts Biko. About time someone went for the throat. Social media has so far been about promoting grievance politics, but they've all been a distraction from classes. How has this obvious tragedy not been addressed until now. Well done to you.
Everyone has a unique perspective and I love yours Douglas! Keep banging your drum!
I loved this. Absolutely loved it. I’ve heard Douglas Murray on some debates and thought he was fantastic, but this is the first long format interview I’ve heard of his. So compelling. Here is a man that is, in his own wonderful and unique way, carrying the torch for Hitchens. We are all better off for it. One theme that I see playing out in these modern times, if I’m permitted to drop my two cents into the conversation, is laziness. Nuance is neither practiced nor regarded as the virtue it should be anymore. I sum that up to laziness in a big way. People are one, too lazy to think with and practice nuance these days. Because it takes a much bigger effort than picking a side and letting that side and all its rules and standards do all the thinking for them. Secondly, people are too lazy to do the work of self evaluating their own beliefs. There are things I thought from my twenties and into my thirties that I have recently had a major shift on. It was painful at times and even embarrassing. But I believe I’m a better rounded person now because of that work. Did I give up my old views entirely? No. Because I used that first part - nuance - to see that there was a baby (or babies) in there not worth throwing out with the bath water. But that takes a daily commitment to doing the work. And I think the disdain for that work in the form of general laziness is at the nexus of the problems these two discuss. Time for all of us to start doing the work again.
Douglas is a sharp mind I can listen to for hours. Explains things so well.
did you miss him babbling and painfully searching for words repeatedly? xD
@@kaivogel253 He genuinely lives all day in your head huh? Like he genuinely offends you that much eh? I couldn't imagine being that fragile.
Damn! Douglas Murray explains things in such a logical, eloquent and succinct way.
What a great conversation!
That last 45 minutes especially is why it is never a generic book tour interview with you Chris. Excellent.